i need some help, so i've been listening to a audio to help me go to the void state every morning and night (i loop it all night cause yk my subconscious is more active then) and i've been doin this for like a week and still no void state :(
❦ hey!!! first, this is actually pretty normal. expected, even.
the void state (whether someone frames it spiritually or not) lines up most closely with deep hypnagogia, and a drop in bodily self-monitoring. those states are not triggered by repetition alone.
a week is barely any time at all in terms of neural learning. your brain isn't a vending machine. you don't insert an audio and receive a state. it's more like training a wild animal to come sit beside you. repetition helps, yes, but only once the conditions are right.
about looping the audio all night: this is where people are often misled online. your subconscious isn't some open sponge during sleep that absorbs instructions. during most of the night, your brain is cycling through stages where external audio is largely filtered out or incorporated only as vague imagery. if anything, constant stimulation can prevent what you're aiming for, because the brain keeps a low-level orientation to sound. silence or minimal input is often more effective for slipping into these edge states.
another important thing: many people actually pass through the void-adjacent state without recognizing it. alot of symptoms can feel boring or like "nothing happened," so the mind dismisses them. recognition itself is a learned skill.
only use the audio once per session: your brain learns best through association. when you play the audio once, your brain starts linking that sound → this mental condition.
i recommend using the audio right after waking up (before checking your phone) or before bed. these are when your brain naturally produces theta waves.
while the audio plays, don't do anything. trying to follow affirmations activates language and control centers in the brain. letting them wash over you allows the default mode network to quiet down, which is necessary for the void-like state.
when the audio ends let your body feel heavy, let your eyes stay unfocused (even if closed) stop checking whether you feel different. then do this once, imagine your body is still there, but your attention is a few inches behind your face, it's like your awareness gently leans back, the way you might sink into a pillow. you're not leaving your body, not visualizing anything fancy.
how you'll know it's working (even if you don't "enter") time distortion, forgetting what you were trying to do, feeling blank but alert, body numbness or a far away feeling, the thought "nothing is happening" (ironically a good sign), if you notice any of these, you're doing great.
neuroscience describes a set of neural networks involved in baseline human consciousness and mind-wandering known as the default mode network (DMN). the DMN is most active when your mind is not focused on a specific external task, e.g., thinking about yourself, past or future events, or internal narratives.
meditation practices alter the activity and connectivity of the DMN and related attention networks. experienced meditators show different patterns of functional brain connectivity compared to non-meditators, even at rest, reflecting changes in internalized attention and the brain's baseline state.
this method is cumulative, each stage primes your nervous system for the next. you will literally train your brain toward the desired state.
parasympathetic activation
lie or sit comfortably. start with coherent breathing: inhale slowly for 4 seconds, exhale slowly for 6–7 seconds. continue for 2–4 minutes.
slow, controlled breathing directly activates the parasympathetic nervous system, lowering heart rate and stress hormones, a biological prerequisite for deeper states of awareness. this prepares your body to stand down so your mind can follow.
repeat 8–12 rounds. your body will feel heavier. your breath more rhythmic. that's the nervous system rebalancing.
total sensory unhooking
after breathing, shift to external sensory attenuation:
ᯓ eyes closed
ᯓ loosen your jaw
ᯓ relax shoulders and belly
your nervous system decodes sensory input as relevant or irrelevant, reducing external input tells the brain you are not in danger. you should feel a gentle withdrawal of attention from the environment.
focus calibration
now you are ready for internal attention training.
choose a single internal focus:
ᯓ your breath
ᯓ a neutral word/sound
ᯓ a simple internal sensation (like your heartbeat)
while maintaining breath awareness, notice when your mind wanders and gently redirect it back. this trains the same systems that neuroscience shows are altered in experienced meditators: greater connectivity between attention networks and the "task-positive" control systems.
note: don't worry if your brain jumps around, that's expected. each redirection strengthens the relevant circuits.
cognitive diminishing
as focus stabilizes, you will encounter the very thing most people fear: mental silence.
at this stage, do not chase thoughts. let them dissipate instead of reacting to them. this mirrors ancient descriptions of states like no-mind in buddhist traditions, where clinging to thoughts ceases.
you may experience:
ᯓ a sense of detachment from the ego
ᯓ dissolution of internal dialogue
this is the neural event that feels like void. it's not nothingness, but a shift in how your brain processes self and attention. you will know you've reached this when your mind feels purely observational.
securing & deepening
do not force it. when you reach this stage:
ᯓ soften your awareness
ᯓ breathe gently
ᯓ let your body sensations fade into peripheral awareness
ᯓ keep attention on the experience itself rather than content
at this point, the DMN’s grip loosens, and alternate network dynamics become dominant — similar to what research describes as altered consciousness or deep meditative states.
if anxiety or intrusive thoughts try to return, just acknowledge them as passing neural events, not threats. this reduces emotional reaction and lets the void-like state deepen again.
intentional manifestation interface
your brain becomes more receptive to internal intention once habitual narrative processing is minimized. your internal cognitive space becomes cleared for deliberate, directed intention.
in this stabilized state:
ᯓ bring to mind a clear, specific intention
ᯓ feel it as though it is happening now, engage emotion
ᯓ hold this felt experience for 30–60 seconds
this trains your brain to encode salient positive patterns that your subconscious can act on, boosting your capacity to notice and act on opportunities.
practical tips & common barriers
ᯓ the depth of this state varies. beginners may plateau early and that's perfectly normal. the brain adapts with repetition.
ᯓ if you have thoughts, observe them without judgment, then return to your focus.
ᯓ this state can feel strange or even unsettling at first. fix yourself by returning to your breath.
Well. Silent Reading chapter 12, where they talk about Fei Du's moms death and how he doesn't accept the conclusion, how Luo Wenzhou advises he at least try to move on emotionally. The way Fei Du is tapping a song on his cup (perhaps his moms), that he stops tapping when Luo Wenzhou hits a nerve and becomes like a statue--revealing his true emotions in a way he doesn't/can't in therapy. The grief talk he probably has needed to hear for a while, but first a very painful talk where there is no seeing eye to eye and no agreeing because they both have their reasons. And Luo Wenzhou turns off the petty conflict for it because Fei Du deserves to genuinely discuss it with Luo Wenzhou as level headed adults with their analysis if Fei Du wants to. And Fei Du is so emotional, and in the end as he puts his mask back up. (A note on the show version: some portions of this changed, the main dialogue stayed fairly true and the function of the scene. In both cases, this scene absolutely cuts up my heart ;-; ):
"Someone once said to me that ‘everything that happens in this world leaves traces,’ but whether you can find them depends on each side’s luck. Is your luck good this time?”
Luo Wenzhou suddenly froze. The blow-for-blow probing, bantering, and hinting vanished utterly from his face. For an instant the corners of his mouth were even pulled a little tight.
Luo Wenzhou subconsciously got his cigarettes out of his pocket, thought of something, and put them back.
Instantly there was deep silence between the two of them. Neither looked at the other. They only sat side by side with a distance of about one meter between them, like complete strangers.
“The windows and doors were locked. None of the rooms showed signs of forced entry. The most advanced security system of the time was entirely untouched.” Luo Wenzhou abruptly opened his mouth to speak, his voice very low and his speech very fast, as if he had already recited these words many times and could smoothly say them without missing a single punctuation mark.
“She had done her makeup and changed her clothes, even put on music. The scene had a certain feeling of ritual. There was a suicide note arranged on the writing desk next to her. It was analyzed, the handwriting confirmed to belong to the deceased. The person who had written the letter showed clear depressive tendencies, which tallied with her daily use of antidepressant medication. The deceased was an adult, with no illness or injury that may have led her to be unable to act for herself. No drugs sufficient to cause unconsciousness were found in her system. There were also no defensive wounds on her body.—That’s all the evidence we collected at the time. You were the one who reported the case. You reached the scene before we did. Unless you want to tell me that you hid some evidence back then, it was without a doubt a suicide.”
Fei Du didn’t speak. His sitting posture seemed very relaxed—legs crossed, upper body leaning forward slightly, one hand casually lying on his knee and the other holding a paper cup that was no longer steaming. His long and slender fingers were tapping out a beat on the rim of the cup, as if there was a melody no one else could hear filling the air.
“I said to you then, ‘Everything that happens in this world leaves traces, as long as it’s real. Without traces to support your opinion, however much you believe in it, it’s still only a dead end of the imagination.’ Fei Du, you may have had a certain intuition, but we can’t do our job based on intuition. My intuition tells me every day that I can make five million.” Luo Wenzhou’s gaze stopped on Fei Du’s fingers. Then, in an almost callously objective tone, he said, “And you know, there’s a theory abroad that says that if a person wants to kill herself, she may suddenly use some means to confess it to the people close to her—you heard her confession back then.”
Fei Du’s fingers suddenly stiffened.
Luo Wenzhou reached out his arm, pulled the paper cup out of his hand and put it aside. “If you really want to talk over this case with me, I maintain my judgment to this day—but it doesn’t matter whose judgment it is. That isn’t important anymore. She’s been dead for seven years. When the coffin is closed, you can judge a person’s life. The relevant evidence has all disappeared. This isn’t going to sound good, but if she’s reincarnated she’ll already be attending primary school. The living can cling on without letting go; it’s a form of emotional sustenance. But there’s no sense in blindly clinging to the wrong course.”
Maintaining his original posture, Fei Du sat without moving a muscle, as if he had turned into a statue.
Just then, Zhang Ting and the lawyer came out side by side, and Fei Du’s gaze moved slightly, giving off a trace of living energy.
“I don’t accept your conclusion, Officer Luo,” said Fei Du.
Hearing this, Luo Wenzhou wasn’t at all taken aback. He only shrugged.
Fei Du adjusted his jacket and stood to meet Zhang Ting and the lawyer. He looked down at Luo Wenzhou. There was no smile on his face; his expression was even somewhat somber. “But perhaps there’s some merit in your heartfelt advice.”
Luo Wenzhou was surprised, but after saying this, Fei Du once again put on his graceful mask and left with Zhang Ting. They didn’t have any further interaction.
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