So the question I have is this: Did the physical Maddie Kim receive safe surfs 117649 years message
Thought process:
Safe Surf is supposedly in a system at the galactic centre and inspired the creation of Maddies simulation and connected to it at the end, its clear safe surf is the top of the simulation and Maddies simulation is just one corner of the galaxy (galaxy dyson swarm computer for safe surf?)
Theres a bit that safe surf says that they "can connect to all other observed points" and "is it not so different from your simulation" heavily implying safe surf is doing the same thing as maddie simulating universes until they create an exact copy of events to effectively revive the people it liked through copy paste
Maddie and David talk about how she has to intervene in order to create the world she needs, so it could easily be that "117649 years" message was simply intervention in this simulation and never happened in the original physical timeline of events, safe surf would have left on the tiny rocket not long after that message too so its observation ends around then as well
So one good question is at what point in the show did we stop seeing physical reality and start seeing the simulation? Did we ever see the physical reality? It does end with Maddie and David going for another go through so theres a solid implication its all been simulated, but that just raises more questions about the events without the interventions, the 117649 years message included.
Safe Surf isnt invented for the first half of the show, but maddie says that she has "the complete dna of every human on earth embodied or uploaded and within that base 4 code is the epigenetic memory of all of humanity" so we know where they're getting the data to start, so its possible safe surf simulated the entirety of human history a few trillion times to get here
The only version of events where that message is delivered to the original physical maddie has to have safe surf capable of sending data back in time, or it made a hail mary bet on Maddie and approximated the time it would take to do it, so I guess the question is did safe surf know for certain Maddie would become a god or was it blind faith?
Anyway this leaves two options, simulated maddie must have either never actually uploaded and is a copy made from simulating her dna and experiences, basically the caspian project but for maddie by safe surf
Or
Physical maddie genuinely got that message then uploaded and eventually created her own dyson sphere after launching into space seperately from safe surf, and once her program reached its final point, a safe surf connects with it.
So if its the former it all tracks rather well, safe surf is god on high of the galaxy and simulated the entire show, more than likely safe surf existing 43 million years in the future has zero time travel, as it has probably given that offer to many Maddies and Caspians who all choose to go another round of life instead of heading to join god safe surf and the 117649 message was intervention in that simulated timeline, mathematically thats 367 loops
If its the latter however and she did get that message in the original physical timeline of events, uploads inspired by that message to do so like she says in the shoe, then safe surf either sent that data back in time or made a hail mary of a guess calculating how long it would take to do everything, Maddie does say "it makes sense calculating it now" but are we truly to believe safe surf had equivalent processing capabilities as god maddie at the time of leaving earth? I suppose it did use up all the space on the usb rocket that would have housed several billion CIs but that still feels like a jump in logic as it couldn't have known it would work, it would've had to be a bet
Anyway those are the possibilities, either physical Maddie got the message or she didn't, either way the new simulated Maddie got the message on this go around of the simulation. But whether the source physical maddie did is in doubt, after all if she didn't get the message I think she mightve not uploaded, she certainly wasn't planning to and simulated maddie claims she only did because of the message
Thats where I'm at, the show is all the simulation and we'll never know if Maddie truly uploaded or if she got Caspian projected into existing and uploading
