#2.6.7

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2.6.7-2.6.8

2.6.7

I think this may be one of my favourite chapters from the convent digression. The austere veneer is finally lifted from the convent and the nuns. In the earlier chapters, we were hearing about the nuns and what is said about Petit-Picpus without really knowing them as individual people and here we do finally get a chance to meet them. We came from the gloomy buildings and history of the convent to meeting people (which was how Waterloo was arranged as well, I think) and the nuns have actual personalities, one of them is kind and therefore preferred by the children, the other is very learned in many subjects, still others are described as ‘having a dreadful singing voice’ but Hugo while he may critique the outward institution, shows that the people are nice, kind and well…people.

I also love that while they are harsh on themselves, they treat the children with kindness and that is so good to read after what we had been told about the nuns and how strict they are. The nuns and the sisters are still ordinary people and we finally get a chance to meet them and know them properly.  

2.6.8

Hugo is mapping out the convent as gallows with a moat, which sounds very ominous. He attaches the death symbolism with the convent and he did that at the start of this digression as well, when he compared the building to the tomb. All this is supposed to be very symbolic. 

I also like the description of the garden as the wheel with a cross, the garden is much favourably depicted and maybe related to the garden with Bishop Myriel and cultivating plants and beauty. The roundness of the garden is contrasted with the sharp edges of the building. 

So maybe linking that with the title, the chapter really is advocating for nature before the stone building, the nature was here first and will endure even among the stones. It is interesting that we get this death and gallows after the image of the nuns, I like the nuns Hugo, I like them a lot, maybe the nuns are in this symbolic death. I love the line ‘for God brought forth flowers before he brought forth stones,’ it seems to me to be a statement on the enduring power of God, not needing the convent built of stones? I don’t know, but it seems a thing Hugo would say.    

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Some Silhouettes of this Darkness

The nuns are kind to the students, although they do not speak to them in passing. Instead, they use the bells to communicate and summon the girls to their lessons or to call someone specifically to the parlor or to announce a great event, like the arrival of the archbishop.

The archbishop and the gardener are the only men allowed inside the convent.

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Brickclub Les Mis 2.6.7

Introducing the nuns and sisters of the Petit Picpus. We'll never hear of/from most of them again (only Mere Innocent actually appears on page IIRC, where she mentions that Mere Annunciation is very strong and Mere Crucifixion was saintly). 

I do like that Mere Innocent is both a scholar and cheerful--and the implication that all of these nuns, who have adopted an extremely austere and dour lifestyle, decided they wanted to be led by the most cheerful member of the group.

This cast of characters, along with the description of the girls' choir and the bell system, helps to flesh out the environment of the convent, and suggests the shape of Cosette' next several years. I note the reservation about nuns not speaking to the children when addressed, which 1) makes sense with their vows of silence, and 2) strikes me as less than ideal for the children's development and well-being. These are children as young as 4 and 5, and all of their caretakers being unavailable in that respect seems unhealthy.

They are amassing a tidy number of men permitted in the 'No Menz!' zone: priest, archbishop, gardener, drawing-master... They are restricted and isolated from the community (grills, and curtains, and bells); I rather wonder that the gardening and drawing instruction at least, aren't undertaken by laywomen (if not nuns or sisters). 

No second person pronouns.  

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[akallabeth-joie]

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In which we get short introductions for a number of the nuns and sisters (IIRC, we've got a two tier system where nuns [styled "Mother"] come into the convent with dowries, and take the leadership positions, while the sisters are poorer women who do the manual labor, though both are under vows). The bell system is also introduced (and it sounds like Madame Genlis is routinely getting into trouble?). There is a drawing-master brought in to teach the students, and the nuns teach them singing (or, at least, have an advanced choir for some of the girls).

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Brick!club 7/20/2013 Les Miserables 2.6.7 A Few Outlines Among the Shadows

OKAY I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS CHAPTER YES IT IS THE NUNS AND I LIKE THE NUNS but even more than that THIS CHAPTER IS HELPING ME WITH AN INCREASINGLY CHERISHED IDEA ABOUT THIS BOOK THOUGH I WAS HOPING HE'D DO THIS. Because Hugo keeps introducing these incredibly idealized, abstract people and then breaking away at the semblance of the ideal, showing all the little cracks and breathing points that make them human. The nuns, here,didn't even start out as people, but as The Convent-- and chapter by chapter they've been gaining lives and individuality, turning into nuns, and then the nuns of various orders, and now we're getting name and quick personality sketches of everyone, from cheerful Mother Innocent to bad-tempered Mother Augustine, the nurse (ha! and now I can only picture her as a McCoy-ish grump scolding all these nuns who keep running themselves into ill health and comforting the girls who come in with stomchaches from windfall apples).  The grates and veils lift back and we and they are left with just people, despite the anyone's efforts to make the nuns into something else-- confusing, contradictory people. For who ever attains the ideal? Hugo does this over and over starting with the Bishop and I love it every time, and I AM SURE I WILL GET A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT MORE I CAN HARDLY WAIT. AND FINALLY! Some discussion of nun/student interaction besides "watching" and "punishing"! The nuns are gentle with the girls, and the girls seem to miss out on all the bodily mortification. I know Hugo mentioned that the girls didn't have to follow 'austerities' but did follow all other rules-- so what are the non-austerities, here? Prayer times?  Bible study? I really want to know! As I find myself saying rather more than expected, GIVE US MORE DETAILS HUGO. Obligatory Oh Hugo No moment: "more a monk than a nun" .  Oh, Hugo. NO. And WHYYYY. But mostly  No.