#2012 master splinter

[lolos-interests]

TMNT 2012 Casey Jones headcanon: he loves cheese.

I love the concept of a character sharing something with the things they fear, hate, etc. So I like to imagine that Casey Jones absolutely LOVES cheese. Cheese strings are his favourite since they’re an easy snack on the go. He fears rats but shares their favourite food.

This also makes me think of Casey and Master Splinter. Casey fears Splinter because he’s a giant rat but Splinter notices his love of cheese. So Splinter grabs two cheesicles and hands one to Casey to associate him with positive feelings. This eases Casey’s fear of him specifically; Splinter may not like Casey all that much but Casey is his son’s friend so he tries.

[deeyanuhh]

yayyyy

credits to @hearts4irma for the template

here’s the empty vers 🙃

[kalopsian-artz]

History Repeats Itself

based on how Splinter and Shredders relationship with Tangshen mirrors The whole Donnie/April/Casey corner the show has going on

the 2012 tmnt character models are so ugly I’m never drawing them so close to the show style ever again.

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What are some of your favorite character relationships/dynamics in TMNT, and why? Is there anything that you particularly like seeing explored with them in fan works (art, writing, comics, etc)?

I think one of my favorites is all the varied dynamics we see with each iteration of the turtles and their Master Splinter. There’s such an interesting push and pull that comes from him being both their father and their teacher.

For instance, even though the 03 turtles only ever call him ‘sensei,’ or ‘Master Splinter,’ or very rarely ‘father,’ all titles which sound very removed and impersonal, I feel like they actually have the closest and maybe the most loving relationship with their Splinter.

I feel like the MM boys also have a very loving relationship with their dad. And for them there’s almost no line between dad and sensei, I think. They definitely have some stuff to work through since he was definitely a much more controlling father when they were younger, but unlike other Splinter’s I think (even if it takes a decent amount of convincing) he’s the most open to change if he thinks it will make his children happy.

Then the Rise boys have a really complicated relationship with their dad. They’re all in one way or another dissatisfied in their relationships with him, both as their father and their teacher, in the beginning he’s not enough of either and as he gets more involved in their adventures he starts to overcompensate in both extremes, either being too much their sensei and forgetting to be their father, or being too much their father and forgetting to be their sensei. It’s a struggle for them to find the right balance. And while they do all love each other, there’s no doubt about that (from an audience perspective at least), there’s definitely been a huge breakdown in communication along the way that leaves the boys a bit desperate for attention and validation.

For 2012 Splinter there’s a lot more of that push and pull. (Also keep in mind I’ve still only seen season 1 so some of this might be conjecture on my part or not that accurate to characterization in later seasons) Even though he does call the turtles his sons- and I do think he’s being genuine- I think there is always a degree of separation between him and them and I think it comes from him and the turtles pick up on it and that’s why they only ever call him sensei. Splinter is deeply traumatized by the loss of his wife and daughter and I feel like he’s afraid to close the gap with his sons because he’s afraid of feeling that pain that deeply ever again. He is very much their father but I think it’s easier for him to think of himself more as a teacher than a father (even if he calls them his sons).

Interestingly this dynamic isn’t necessarily one that I seek out in fan works but more like something that I happen upon. I can think of a couple of fics in the rise fandom that fit this thematically but the names are escaping me at the moment so I might add links to those in an edit or a reblog later.

Thanks for the ask!

[terrestrialnoob]

So, something about Turtle Temper has wormed into my brain like the villain song in a Disney musical. The fandom correctly identifies the way Leo and Raph’s relationship mirrors Yoshi and Saki’s relationship, however, while we the audience map Leo to Yoshi and Raph to Saki, Splinter does it backwards.

When he talks to Raph about his temper, he says Raph’s anger reminds him of himself. Splinter sees an echo of the rivalry he had with Saki and projects it onto Leo and Raph, but with Leo as Saki and Raph as himself. When Splinter sees Raph he sees his own anger, frustration, and failures, and he thinks “If only I had controlled my anger, Saki would not have killed Tang Shen” when we the audience know that’s utter bullshit.

It’s very interesting to have Splinter think this way, and it logically follows through that someone with survivor’s guilt would find some way to blame himself for someone else’s horrible actions. And we can see how it’s negatively affected his sons.

Splinter likely started to praise not showing emotion and punishing emotional outbursts. That can look like good parenting; it can look like he’s teaching his sons to control themselves, but it produced one son terrified of expressing himself and another who feels he can only express emotions in aggressive outbursts. Leo gets rewarded for suppressing himself by being given more attention from Splinter, while Raph gets punished for having emotional outbursts by his feelings and opinions being ignored. Splinter tells him to ignore his feelings, to not let them affect him, but that ignores what causes those feelings.

Yes, it’s Raph’s responsibility to control his behavior and not let his anger put his family in danger, but Leo ignores Raph’s input on missions and Splinter puts the blame for most, if not all, of their disagreements on Raph. Raph is the one who’s uncooperative, he’s the one disobeying orders, he’s the one starting the fights with Leo, even when Leo’s wrong. It’s not surprising that if no one listens to Raph until he’s in their face or yelling at them, that he’ll start with yelling at them.

There’s also something to be said of Raph being held responsible for when his anger throws off a mission, but Mikey gets away with his ADHD ruining missions (ADHD can’t be an excuse when it puts his family in danger, he needs better coping skills).

Anyway, that’s what the worm says, I'll let you know when it says more.

[its-turtles-all-the-way-down]

Okay so when Splinter said “do not fight the armor, fight the man inside” I thought the turtles were gonna just relentlessly bully Stockman and take advantage of his insecurities to win the fight…… did not expect them to shove a beehive into his face but I guess that’s also a valid way to win a fight

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I gotta be honest the way some people talk about 2012 Splinter really gave me the impression that he was like, secretly abusive or like, a really bad father and more of just a sensei than a father to the turtles but now that I’m watching the show,,,, I just don’t see that? Yeah he’s a little more strict with training but he and the boys live in a world that is objectively dangerous for them and he wants them to be able to protect themselves, and when he teaches them lessons you can tell that he really means well and wants them to learn because he loves them. He won’t give them the answers right away he wants them to figure it out for themselves which honestly isn’t a bad teaching method and even when they get it wrong he doesn’t berate them he just redirects them so they can eventually figure out what he’s trying to teach them. And when it’s time for them to just be kids he lets them be kids. And he does have a sense of humor with them! It’s just a bit more subtle and deadpan but god is it funny and you can tell that when he’s messing with them it’s in that fatherly sort of way where he just wants to see them react. Idk I’m only on season 1 so maybe later on his character gets flanderized in such a way that people seem to have such a bad impression of him that they do, but for now I think this iteration of Splinter is a good dad, he’s just a different kind of dad than 03 or Rise Splinter

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Congratulations on surviving another trip around the Sun!!! Favourite to least favourite Splinter? Why? Also, if all of them had to fight each other, which one do you think would win?

Thanks!! So favorite to least favorite huh? I think my ranking goes:

03 Splinter

Rise Splinter

2012 Splinter

Bayverse Splinter

03 Splinter is the funniest in my opinion and think his relationship with the turtles is very sweet. He’s a self admitted overprotective father but he also wants to give his boys the chance to grow into themselves on their own.

I also think Rise Splinter is very funny. I have some conflicted feelings about his parenting style however I don’t think it was nearly as bad or neglectful as a lot of people make him out to be. The boys clearly love their dad a whole lot and that doesn’t come from being ignored every second of every day for 13 years.

Another Splinter that I think gets a way worse rap than he really deserves (although I’ve only watched season one, I don’t know how he changes over the seasons) he’s definitely a bit more reserved with his boys but it’s still clear that he is very much a father to them and not just a sensei. He does lose points for never going on missions with his kids though, like cmon they’re out there risking their lives yeah they’re trained ninjas but they’re also 15, get out there and help your boys fight the good fight.

Bayverse Splinter has the same problem that I have with most of the Bayverse characters outside of the turtles themselves which is that he’s such a non-character. He’s there to provide exposition to April and then get critically injured so that he doesn’t have to be involved in the plot of the movie anymore. He and Shredder don’t even really have a personal grudge against each other (at least none that I can remember and if they do then it’s kinda bad that the reason is so unmemorable that it just doesn’t register as part of the plot at all). In the second movie he’s just there to say something vaguely wise and then disappear from the action yet again. He very much feels like he’s just there because every turtle adaptation is required to have a Master Splinter and then they did nothing to actually make him a character. He’s master Splinter in name alone and that’s kinda it.

As for who among them would win in a fight? Well we got two Battle Nexus champs, a Ninjitsu master, and cannon fodder. I am very biased but I think I would give it to Rise Splinter. I think it would be a very close fight but in the end I think Rise Splinter would be victorious, cuz not for nothing his sons are bioengineered super soldiers and yet they still never defeat their father in a fair fight on screen. Safe to say Lou Jitsu is still serving hot soup (oh my goodness that was so corny lmao)