#@thejoanglebook

[takealookatmycrabclaw]

Hey, I used to be super active in the fandom back in 2018-2021, but kind of dipped after that and started hyperfixating on other stuff. I come back here and there to watch old episodes, but I never knew any of the drama that happened; why Joan left, why sanders sides is on hiatus, etc. I can tell that there was something happening and some infighting probably, and the sanders sides quality def took a hit when Joan left, but I don’t know what happened. Do u think u could summarize some stuff for me, if u have the time?

Ty! @fanderstuckin2018

Lol I know im super late to answering this. Ill give the best summary I can given that I lowkey stopped caring after I got hyperfixated on something else. I would go to scroll through the hash tags i listed under this post to find better info because they know more about this than I do but its also hard to find actual problems and critism and insults. (Not a diss btw)

But basically Joan left the team to pursue personal projects and work on their own comics. Some have speculated that there was tension or issues in the workplace and/or between them and Thomas. But thats just speculation thats likely not true.

But the suspicions were (kind of) fueled by Brei and what she said to some fans ig. I dont think thats true because I asked Joan about it and this was their response:

For some context; I sent them screenshot of a conversation me and an old mutual of mine, where they talked about how Brei class that Joan uses to rant about Thomas and how the two of them aren't really close (or something along those lines)

This was also in response to my old moot saying that Joan lied to me about working on the finale. Which is mentioned later lol.

I ended up getting a message from them not too long after that conversation:

So basically there's no actual drama going on. (At least not anymore I believe, I dont know them so I cant fully say but I dont have any reason to think that they're lying lol)

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There was also drama about how Joan wrote the finale. Again, I spoke to them about this:

I sent a screenshot of this message to a mutual of mine and they asked Brei about it and then they claimed that Joan lied, which is why they talked about keeping cards close to their chest in the earlier messages.

So to reiterate; there's no drama involving Joan.

But any drama outside of this is stuff that Thomas did like use AI for thumbnails and captions for posts, not paying Brei (or othef employees) correctly or some other bs that I dont know/care about anymore.

Sanders Sides being on hiatus is likely because Joan isnt working on the project anymore or possibly being short staffed but I cant say for sure. The reason why this seems ro be an issue in the Fandom is because of how sloppy Thomas' business procedure seems to be. (Idk if that made sense) Like Thomas bot working on the series or putting out an official episode in years and then only making important content about sanders sides only available through a paywall (patreon) and only focusing on sides projects (like ads or the sides playing video games)

But i personally think its because of a drop in views and money so its harder to produce content like sanders sides while making it free. Since sanders sides is what kept his channel afloat in the first place, him not making any lead to a drop in revenue/views, which lead to him relying on secondary videos of the sides to make money. Its basically a giant circle.

And now old fans that have been here since middle school/high school are frustrated and tired of not getting content that they were promised 5 years ago.

Btw theses screenshot were taken months ago so like idk if these still hold up.

[nevertherose]

There had to be a sequel.

I mean, most movies get a sequel and a video game anyway.

I feel like my art has gotten better in the space of a year...however, this was still quite a challenge. (Doing pixel art by hand...never again!) It's busier and more chaotic...but then again, so is the episode 😅

[bewaretheidesofmarchyall]

You Thought I’d Stopped Talking About Cecil Sanders, Didn’t You? [Insert Evil Laugh]

I made a picrew of Cecil Sanders!!!

(Just pretend the black bandanna is a cloak)

[i-am-shitpost]

Deceit Sanders and Remus Sanders are the living embodiment of “be gay do crimes”

[sander-sides-as-john-mulaney]

ok so after watching the new tik tok video Thomas posted

The outro used Joan and Thomas’s respective usual colors of Thomas-purple and Joan-orange (cuz their beanie)

And we all know the strong theory that there’s and orange side coming soon.

J Ø Ä Ñ Î Š T H Ē Ô R Å Ń G Ė Š Ī D Ê

Haha, just kidding.

Unless,

[theatergeekstuff]

Alright New Theory!

This is my best attempt to guess what the new episode is going to be about based on the trailer at the end of the dealing with intrusive thoughts bloopers video, probably my worst theory, but hey might as well.

So to start off based on the fact that,

1. The first half of the trailer was a recap of Selfishness Vs Selflessness 

2. Thomas appeared to be wearing a suit 

3. One of the video game moments (more on that later) He was at a nice decorated place. 

These Three points all lead to the fact that This a part two of Selfishness VS Selflessness. 

Now that part is obvious, what I think is going to happen that isn’t as obvious is that Deceit, unlike the last episode, isn’t going to play as big of a role. Instead, in his place, I think the new Orange side.

So first, I need to recap the trailer. The trailer starts off with a recap of Selfishness, like I said before, after that it cuts to April 13, the day of the call back of the Wedding/callback.Thomas kicks open the door of his house and the video flashes between little video game scenes and reaction shots of Roman and patton looking distressed, then finally Thomas walks on screen shout What the F@#! everybody, then the trailer ends.

Now the scene that make me think that the orange side will be introduced in this new episode is one of the video game cutscenes.

As you can see this is a parody of pokemon’s “ A NEW OPPONENT HAS APPEARED” Which Is what first tipped me off that this wasn’t deceit, because we’ve already met him, so this has to be someone else right?

In my previous theories I said that the new Orange Side was the last Side, not only that, I also said that he was Logan's opposite/dark side, I explain why the orange side is Logan’s opposite and Deceit wasn’t like some people think in other theories, so for more explanation go read those. 

But back to the point, why does that matter, so what if it’s the new Orange side and not deceit, how does it affect this series. Well it’s because, at least as far as I think, Thomas is not only going to decide to skip the wedding, he’s also going to miss the callback as well. And Thomas is going to majorly regret it.

My reasoning for thinking that Thomas is going to skip the wedding and miss the wedding is again due to the other video game cutscenes. 

The second cutscene is a quick of shot of thomas checking his phone at, what I’m assuming from the facing lighting and decorations, is the Wedding. Which does confirm that he did go to the Wedding. 

But then, the third cutscene is Thomas running in a super mario parody. Which doesn’t make sense if Thomas happily stays at the wedding.

These two scenes make me conclude that Thomas during the wedding will decide that he wants to go to call back after all and then rushes to make it, but like I said before more than likely he will miss it

I think he’ll miss it because of two scenes I mentioned it early in my recap. 

 scene One: Thomas kicks open his door after the date April 13 pops up

First of all, it’s the date of the wedding/callback and he’s home, which means this is the aftermath of whatever happened, and again he kicks down his door and he does not look happy, so whatever happened wasn’t exactly what he would have wanted 

scene two: Thomas walks to his normal spot on Sander sides and says “what the F@#% everybody.” 

Again, he’s super angry, and he’s home. Also, in both scenes he’s wearing a nice suit and has his hair all slicked back, which shows he was prepared/ went to the wedding.

So, to recap, I believe that in the new episode Thomas will go to the wedding as planned in Selfishness VS Selflessness. Then during the wedding he decides that he does want to go to the call back after all, he tries to make it but is to late and misses it. He then goes home all angry and starts the episode.

That's right, all this will be the start of the video, because this video will be about the regret and hard reality and consequences that Thomas has to deal with due to with his extreme kindness. Kindness that is so extreme that he hurts himself in the process. 

Now, it’s time to bring it back to the Orange side. Like I said earlier, the orange side is Logans “dark side.”  And like I said in one of my previous theories, I think that the orange side is just a more gritier version of Logan, kind of like Remus is the more gritier version of Roman. But instead of Gross and explicit behavior, he’s more brutally honest, to a point that it would be considered cruel.

I think that In the new episode The Orange side will show up and tell Thomas that he needs to stand up for himself more and do things that will benefit himself to make himself happy. Basically what Deceit said but more to the point. 

The New episode is basically going to be a lot like Selfishness VS selflessness, a whole lot of arguing between the dark side and the light sides, only this time, the dark sides are going to get through to Thomas and win the Case.

And that is my theory about the trailer!

[tsanders-sides]

Thomas: Joan who's your favorite character in my series?

Joan: Me

[just-a-hufflepuff]