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This "Sasuke is a misogynist" discourse doesn't die, huh?

I'm planning a big post on this topic in the near-future, which I'd summarize in this post; however, I'd say this: the "benign sexism" you lot play at to label Sasuke a misogynist is neither clever nor anything more than a projection of white-feminism that seeks to protect imperialistic minded women from the violence of the male populace that it directly oppresses or indirectly oppresses via being a part of the military's ranks.

Sasuke choking Sakura out, an imperialistic foot-soldier who came at him literally with an intent to take his life and uphold Leaf's status-quo in regard to foreign policies, shouldn't bother you; however, it does because you want Sakura to perform the role of an imperialistic soldier (which is from where the fantasies of the cheapsters that mostly make up her fandom spring from) and not be held accountable for her actions. You want to create a double-edged sword around this entire discourse: she's a soldier, but she's also a woman; she's brave in the military, but she's also physically weak compared to a man; she took that step, but it's Sasuke that forced her hand. It's almost as if she can only have any agency if she brutalizes, but the moment the tables are turned on her, you lot can just flip the script to instantly convert her into a fucking victim: as she's a woman who's weaker than Sasuke, less capable than Sasuke, and less powerful than Sasuke, she doesn't deserve his violence; he, on the other hand, does as he created that situation for her.

Like I said, a double-edged sword which compels the other party to write a thesis to course-correct the petty and very flimsy argument that's got no logical basis. Why? Violence is common amongst villages, and creating WMDs simply opens you up for incursions, especially when your village thrives on it. Sasuke has done nothing out of the ordinary, and Bee isn't some innocent bystander, given that he'd helped fight plenty of wars for Kumo; and thus, he can be targeted on that ground. You can talk treaties and international law (two of this illiterate fandom's favorite terms, when they've got little idea that law and justice aren't the same) all you want, but it doesn't change this argument even a tiny bit.

This is common for that world. Kumo tried to kidnapped Kushina as she was a Jin (or she'd been very close to that ceremony) and Hinata. What Sasuke delivered was pure irony which was lost on Ae; he didn't bother to introspect that, perhaps, it was better if cooler heads prevailed; however, in the past, he demanded the head of an innocent man as Konoha couldn't afford a war with Kumo; now, he demanded answers as his Jin was stolen; and in broad daylight, too. This military posturing is never about morality but keeping matters right and straight in that shinobi-world. Why embroil yourself in that, when you're aware that this is well above your pay-grade? This fandom refuses to acknowledge something so simple that Sakura, quite erroneously, thought that as she handled Sasori last time and helped make things right, she'd just swoop in, fatally attack Sasuke, and walk away. This was her "right and straight moment" as a Shinobi. Make things right again, you know? Did no one notice that when she went to rescue Kankaro that's exactly what he'd done? He went after Sasori and bit off more than he could chew? If it isn't sexism there, why's it here? Is it that she lost because she's a woman and "girl-bosses" must never lose? You tell me.

Sakura personally took it upon herself to track Sasuke down and deliver a death-blow. Just because she came across someone who was beyond her capabilities doesn't mean that she didn't take the steps herself. This was never her business, given that she's just a lowly medic (you lot can weep hysterically and churn out your cheap fix-its copiously for all I care, but she's no match for Sasuke on any front, and that's just a canon fact), not a saboteur or a part of a team that dispatches missing-nin. She chose to meddle in this situation.

What if she'd come across Obito? Do you think he'd have not, I don't know, sniped her head off with Kamui? I'm aware that your shipping fantasies, which you lot take as some biblical fact that's translatable to real life, state otherwise, but think for a moment, if it isn't too much trouble. Would that have made him a misogynist, simply because the opponent he took on was a weak female-soldier rather than a male one? What about Kisame? He'd have ripped her to shreds with Samehada, because it's a shredder-type weapon. Would that have made him a misogynist, too? Yes, I'm aware that Kisame's in awe of her in one of the fix-its from a talent-less "writer", because he's slipping her his shark-cock; but that doesn't make it canon. He wouldn't give a fuck about Sakura in canon. She'd just be another problem for him to dispatch, and he'd do it with violent apathy. What then? Is he out there to end women-kind, too? Of course he isn't, because your shipping stories tell you that isn't.

What if Itachi had turned her into a pin-cushion (the way he'd done with Kakashi) had he been alive and learned that she planned on harming Sasuke? Again, I'm sure his dick wriggles and moistens at the head uncontrollably, soiling his Akatsuki robes the way it happens in that cesspit fix-it that's Kill Your Heroes (KYH), in your fix-its for her (you, basically; and how sad is that penchant for obsessive self-inserting that you're convinced that these men would truly give a fuck; some of you are so dick- and male-attention-starved that it's obnoxious). That's very much not canon. I know that it comes as a shock, but there, there. Would that make him a misogynist? What about Sasori? He'd attacked her from behind the way Sasuke had. Then why's he not that? Is it that he's "shippable"? Holds a door open (snort-laughs) for your fantasies whilst Sasuke slams it in your face?

Seriously, what's the criteria here? What makes a man a misogynist in canon? Even Madara stuffed her up, pun ended, with the rod, but many of you lot are convinced that he'd care about her if they'd met under different circumstances. Why and how? Lord knows, when Sakura, save that Sasori battle, was such a non-entity in the lives of these men that either they retaliated to her attack and tossed her aside, without giving her a second glance (like Madara); they didn't even bother to mention her by name despite naming every other character they'd come across (like Itachi); or they just became extremely annoyed with her persistence (like Sasuke) and tried to dispose of her when she became a threat.

So, basically, the only reason any important man ever showed her any attention was when she either attacked him and got a response or she turned sniveling and completely intolerable for the man to take notice of her; or they, like Itachi, just acted as if she didn't even exist (no, really, you can go and re-read that Itachi encounter in the forest; his sheer apathy towards her might blow your mind, because he felt that she was so beneath him that he didn't even bother acknowledging her presence, albeit in your fix-its he's consistently leaking his juices at the sight of her and admonishing Sasuke whilst stroking himself silly, which he never did in canon). I know you lot obsessively remedy that; perhaps it gives you a taste of that real life problem, but it isn't canon. Heck, it didn't occur to you that she behaves in this in-your-face manner as she begs to be noticed; otherwise, she's beneath the notice of these men? It's almost as if her shenanigans are about her being starved for validation, given that there's nothing about her that'd make them take notice of her? That she's kinda smidge ordinary? It's almost as if it's canon. Just a thought.

Does that bother you, hm? That the men that matter...well, Sakura doesn't matter to them? That she's not special to any of them? Isn't that what these fix-its remedy, making her special like Sasuke and tearing him down, but why him? Why not others? It's obvious why he's the target: she chases and gets humiliated, and that hits way too close to home for many. Why do you think she's disliked by a lot of male readers? Her rejections of Naruto hits too close to home for them: they identity with him, like you do with her, and that stings; otherwise, there's no logic behind these accusations. It's just a comical fantasy to be desired by good-looking, accomplished, and powerful men. Pretty much a leaf out of an average Incel Manifesto: "women go for the chad, not the normies, homies; alpha fucks and beta bucks; nice guys finish last!" Etc. Etc. It's fascinating how this entire female fandom fits that mold so perfectly that it gives you a whiplash. Not because they ship. No, not at all. It's that they take this so fucking seriously that they've spun an entire discourse of faux-leftism around something as simple as a female foot-solder that attacked an oppressed youth, who, in turn, retaliated and rejected her advances. They've turned their masturbatory pastime, shipping, into a left issue. Wrap your head around this, please, because this is a real doozy!

Sincerely, consider this for a bit as there are only two choices here: these men aren't misogynists simply because they attacked female combatants, so Sasuke isn't a misogynist; these men are misogynists as they attacked female combatants, so that also makes Sasuke a misogynist; since none of you lot consider these men to be misogynists and single out Sasuke for it, the only logical problem left is that...she wants a romantic attachment; and his rejection bothers you. To the point that you've generated volumes of this hurt and glazed it with masturbatory takes on feminism. You've made it personal. How embarrassing?

It reads like the worst form of pink/woke-washing of fascist regimes and their soldiers. She serves one. If she becomes the target when she goes out to fight for its cause, she's a fair target. You lot are regurgitating IOF propaganda at this point: "I'm a soldier and I protect my country against terrorist threats; I'm a brave, strong, and progressive woman!" they say whilst they go out and butcher an entire populace in the name of "freedom". I'm citing that as it's current; otherwise, what feminism has Sakura endorsed, enacted, propagated? None? What leftism has she been a part of? None? Then what exactly makes her a leftist and feminist, then? She has a cunt? That's it? That's the sole requirement for being a leftist? Her selective niceness that's limited in its use isn't a part and parcel of leftist politics. She's a grand case-in-point of liberal values: a performance of virtue, allying with people that make me good and feel good! You're projecting your own ideology, which is light years away from leftism, onto her and picking targets to pass judgement, simply because they stand against her. You, basically. Just poke at this idea even a little bit, and it completely falls apart as this is just one illustration of the gutter that's "choice feminism": whatever women do, no matter how heinous, capitalistic, and right-wing, it's feminism, because "women are wonderful" syndrome or something of the sort.

The only leftist characters in the manga are the ones that seek to dismantle these institutions. Sakura solely exists to keep them from falling. (Her and her mentor's entire "mental health" and healing endeavors exist to keep the soldiers from lashing out against the establishment, to keep them from rebelling, make sure that they stay conforming; in which realm is this "progress" in the domain of the military?) That literally makes her, and by extension you, right wing. (Liberalism is to the right of center, which itself depends on the overtun window; these days, liberals are closer to fascism than right.)

Are basic politics that hard? Is her vagina a precursor to left? Are you fucking high? You do realize that your entire moral projections are completely worthless, right? You lack the basic understanding of what makes a character on the side of left, and Sakura isn't that character. Not even close. Sucking off Kakashi's sad-wee-wee simply because you think he's hot (non-canon; sorry, I gotta be very petty here) and safeguards Sakura doesn't mean anything as he represents the many extensions of Konoha's imperialism. Just because he's sad doesn't mean that he's good. Being sad isn't the first-page of a book called good. He's just...sad. So what?! This is so fucking childish and an elementary understanding of all this as any character you feel kisses her arse is suddenly on the side of good, because you identify with her; or any male character you fantasize about buggering you raw also turns into a saint for some reason. No questions asked. Sometimes, they go at her orifices in great numbers for the express purpose of "female sexual-empowerment", and they don't even show others the courtesy by writing them as crack; no, they think that this is serious business. You reverse-harem the entire military as girl-boss Sakura and you make "comfort women" hip again, because whatever Sakura does and her fandom conceives is so leftist, bros! Don't you get it: they've turned the tables on genocidal rape by transforming the "es-pah-shal" Haruno vag into a petri-dish for STDs! Women-kind world-over liberated! Patriarchy obliterated! Right annihilated! The trifecta of leftism. Thank you, thank you!

Reasonable adults grow beyond these black and white divisions to see the greys in life. It's like you lot are playing a very long game of doll-house at this point; however, instead of keeping it as a hobby, you've given it a garb of serious discourse. A fight against "patriarchy", which is side-splittingly laughable as all Sakura, and you lot do (in your fix its), does is whine constantly about her desire to be wanted...in all aspects of a capitalistic life: hot and rich husband for the status and trophy that she's won a lottery against all the other girls, that Sasuke picked her (which is why she never stopped pursuing Sasuke as he's everything she's not; her low self-esteem lays it bare); good job for accolades; and ranks for her future. The bare-bones of the upward mobility the American Dream promises! Which part of her by-the-book capitalistic life, which you all make so much worse in your FFs, is in any way even left-adjacent? Open my eyes, please.

See, that's my problem with this fandom/any fandom: its media literacy/literacy is extremely poor. There's no grasp of basic political structures, but a lot of frothing at the mouth and generous use of the word "terrorist", which, by the way, is a very obscene term in today's political climate; but without any knowledge of as to what entails this term, its history, and context, you're just trigger-happy with it and its flippant usage makes you look...so fucking stupid, detestable, in fact. There's no grasp of the basic idea that fascism is a broad spectrum and it can absolutely be located outside a nation-state's borders; but as Konoha and the rest of the villages don't engage in "sieg heil!" salutes and don't have square-mustache-donning villainous dictators, it's not fascism, apparently. Never mind that all fascism isn't nazism, but that'd require a semi-literate individual to make a statement (write a fiction/fanfiction inspired from this), not some tunnel-visioned, dick-sniffing lonely shipper whose analyses begin with and end on the "upholding of womanhood in all walks of life". Yes, every single one, even fascistic imperialism, and Allah forbid it if you ever try and knock her off that pedestal...then it's a genocide against all womankind! How dare Kishimoto focus on the marginalized men instead of my morally bankrupt, white-feminist cunty props? Riot! White/neoliberal/pop feminists rise up!

How can any of you expect to be taken seriously when you can't seem to parse the very basics of politics? Then you wonder why your "political endeavors" are mocked?; and I swear to God, someone in KYH's review-section, a 30-something dipshit, referred to the brain-dead, cheap, and horrific grasp of the author's politics in that fiction educational; no, I'm not even lying:

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This unabashed lack of media literacy and strict engagement with character-wanking results in reviews like the above and this one:

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(You've got an entire page of women cheering on the torture scene that involves Sasuke for no apparent reason; and you can't help but wonder that what did Sasuke do to her that was so cruel beyond rejections that requires a gaudy torture of his at her hands, like that infamous and tawdry "Sasuke beheading painting"; and you reach a conclusion fairly easily.)

No individual who's touched a dictionary or any political discourse would call Itachi of all the people, your friendly neighborhood staunch fascist and genocidaire that tortured a child for hours and killed people indiscriminately in the name of an imperialist state, a pacifist. Are you fucking pulling my leg? Is that skull empty? You can't be an active imperialist and be magically a pacifist at the same time. These are two extreme ends of militarism. To be a pacifist is to abstain from the military and its violence altogether, not actively propagate its hegemon. Why are you people so mind-numbingly crass, unintelligent even? How are you learning your politics (as adult women) from an excruciatingly poorly written FF, one which has no grasp of the political spectrum and what it means to be critical of right that flirts and courts fascism? What does it say about you as a person if these are the politics you openly flaunt as agreeable, learnable, and endorsable, even educational? (I'm not saying this; these women are.) At this point, you're just saying that Sasuke has no right to defend himself (a very hip phrase these days), but the imperial forces do, which includes Sakura no matter how many times you side-step this giant elephant in the room? You see, how this exact rationale has always been used by imperialists, including IOF these days? It just goes to show how this fandom, which considers these despicable takes "leftist", and the world in general consider the people crushed by the hegemon to be legitimate (capitalistic) sacrifices to maintain the status-quo, keep things going as they are, not shake up the pot that'd lead to the apparatus's deconstruction. How can you not see that you lot sound like fascists/liberals/moderates (very little demarcation between these three) when you call these FFs educational and want more of these to be created?

Politics some Itachi-masturbator considers to be the zenith of progress, simply because she cloaks it in "women progress", isn't the side of "good". This is text-book pink-/woke-wishing and white feminism that are contextually against intersectional feminism and leftism; that's all what KYH is, pink-/woke-washing! It's just a "revenge of the nerds" fantasy where the "poor, side-lined guy/girl takes over the powerful clan (Sasuke's clan) and shows the jock who's boss!". A liberal fantasy (the harry-potterism of politics) that tries really fucking hard to sell meritocracy (don't you know that she was fucking robbed?!) and presents this absurdly surface-level understanding of morality in militaristic set ups. Comically stripped down from anything even canon attempted. But hey, she trained, like, real hard in these FFs, don'tchya know? So that makes it deep!

This is just Rowling's "liberal utopia" fantasy. What are you doing that makes it anything but derivative trash? What makes you different from her? You're not breaking any grounds. The fucking ego of this fandom! This has been done a trillion times before. By all means, write derivative trash. There's nothing wrong with it, but why aim for "leftist fandom-discourse" with this disposable shite? Give me a break! No wonder the romance genre is teeming with white supremacy as that's all you lot do; and many of these novels that drip with romanticization of fascism, cock goes in coochie and something grand happens, curiously, were FFs before (we've come full circle!); you project your white-savior fantasies onto these characters. A lot! Sakura fandom, just endless iterations of JK Rowling, bitches who think they they send their best sons/daughters to right the wrongs around the world. The roles the likes of Sakura, Itachi, et al., take on. The burden they must bear to liberate Leaf from "barbaric" individuals like Sasuke; and they talk a lot about the pains she, even Itachi, went through to save Sasuke, don't they? The justifications aren't created in a vacuum; the entire post-modern western entertainment rolls about in this power-fantasy sewage: from King Solomon's Mines, which became the inspiration for Indiana Jones, to corporate junk like Marvel movies. At the fundamental level, all of these are the same (the basic ethos of the superhero movies in general are lifted from Birth of a Nation beat for beat, KKK darling cinema; how awesome is that?). Add white-women tears to it, which this lot so sees in Sakura's "episodes", and they plummet this down to hell's cesspools. The strategic tears, the "deserved better" bullshit, and the sans-romance robberies, all capitalistic dreams. All patriarchal. All right-wing. Surprise, surprise!

The whole “female rage” that these neo-liberal feminists keep spinning? It’s without any bite. It’s not rage against the machine, no—it’s rage against not fitting into the machine, or what pop-culture dictates that they need to be upset about next. Basically, it’s rage against whatever affects white women/the women who believe religiously in white feminism. The women who live in marginalized communities? They don’t care. Funny, how they never talk about how these villages brutalized women in poor states like Ame in their FFs. That was just, you see. It’s only a real-real tear-jerker when slave-owners like Hinata and whiny, romantically rejected women like Sakura do not get their due rewards in the military establishment that truly matters. They deserved better—or something.

And in order to remedy that very obvious problem, they transform Sakura into this raging bitch who’s—what’s she raging against, again? Beats me. (She’s like that in all these arse-wipe BAMF narratives, whose writers, and I use this word very loosely, are under some serious delusions that they’re fighting against the evil male-horde who’re out to get them in nerd-spaces; it’s in retrospect fucking hilarious as these are the most privileged bitches in the entire world.) It isn’t anything meaningful, worth a damn. It’s just patriarchy rebranded. Now, a heel instead of a boot! Don't you just love it when women like Tsunade, who helped enforce a blockade on Ame that starved its populace to death, do fascism? Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy and empowered inside!

They love to use patriarchy to define their endeavors. They’ve abused this word to the point that it’s turned meaningless. Penis doesn’t equal patriarchy; it’s a genderless socio-cultural apparatus that permeates all center and right spaces to create disparities. Doesn’t seem like they’ve read anything beyond “wehmen oppressed”, have they? I wish these women weren't so rancidly illiterate and pathetic, in your face. We all would've ignored their existence.

Female rage, which dictates everything in their discourse and fix-its, is just a tool of the patriarchy. They buy into this corporate inauthenticity and sell it as female-empowerment; when, in reality, it’s another facet of neo-liberalism, capitalism, and neo-colonialism. This same “female rage” branding was used to sell colonialism in Rhodesia and maintain its apartheid system. If you look at their posters from the 70s, you’d notice how white feminism and its desire to be included in patriarchal systems for state-backed brutality has never changed. One of the posters reads: These Women Will die for Rhodesia

LEFT: A family outing on a Sunday afternoon is the same as always in Rhodesia- except for the automatic rifle at the ready "just in case"

RIGHT: If the terrorists come, the girls will be ready for them. They practice regularly because they know that the first shot could be the one that counts

See what I mean? Fuck, I can’t be the only one to sees no difference in this and the “wehmen soldiers are cool” narrative in post-modern media today; you don’t need to think about why the people you’re hunting down in the name of empowerment are terrorists (these women have pigshit for brains)—no, you just need to establish your own “female rage myth” in the canon of neo-colonial patriarchy, and that’s feminism, apparently. That’s why, in order to open the door of Sakura's “latent female rage”, they have her cosplay as a poor, an abused girl to one-up Sasuke’s trauma. Who then rises from the “ashes of womanhood” to take on the “terrorist Sasuke” that threatens her home. (Look above at that poster’s punchline, and tell me, do you see any difference? It’s chuckle-worthy how these plastic bitches keep rebranding their adoration for white-supremacy and its flavors in all walks of life, even something as pointless as FFs.) Basically, she’s this all-around capitalistic barbie, who’s cool, badass, and takes no shit from no man (regardless of context)—it’s the “political activism” that they sell via these fix-it and fandom discourse turds, which is performative and empty.

God, and let’s not forget her failures in romances that are shoved into all this to complete the picture. Her disenfranchisement is entirely about privilege, extreme privilege at that, and people who’re oppressed are made to apologize for their anger—or ever having wronged her in any manner. I wonder when that day will arrive when these hysterical cretins would put out anything other than how they were romantically wronged in canon and life. Talk about something other than their sickening privilege. It’s as if they consider Taylor Swift to be their role-model.

This smacks of colonial fantasies that most of these endeavors are known for. (Mark Hamill, whose claim to fame came from his role as Luke Skywalker, a character who stood against an empire that, according to Lucas, reflected America and its imperialism, is using that image to sell Biden's genocide; The Empire is an allegory for the Vietnam War.) The joke writes itself as any politically charged narrative that comes out of the west is just dripping with this archetype; and lo and behold most people who populate FF and AO3 and other popular FF sites are predominately Americans. (Decolonizing the Mind speaks about how language and literature, and in this case disposable literature, are used to perpetuate these ideas indefinitely.) A country whose American Exceptionalism has completely polluted all popular genres with the idea of "rational freedom-loving denizens and military-men against the irrational horde that spread anarchy". Heck, the use of entertainment to create backing for the current genocide, even reducing it to harry-potterism memes, should tell you as much as to how much this sort of engagement is popular with this lot. (Also, you don't need to be white to believe in any of this; so let's be perfectly clear here; just like you don't need to be white to practice white/liberal feminism.)

Good intentions and female rage aren't good enough. Being a smidge less privileged than the male counterparts isn't good enough. Their beloved characters don't even have the former. Suggesting that the "female side-lining" in the military is the same as systematic oppression, so it, somehow, allows her this massive empathy to judge and if need be convert to jury and executioner...is so despicable. This is not only sidelining your own privilege but also cashing in on the "exotic" nature of the otherness they attribute to the marginalized characters. (It's no wonder that they take Sharingan from Sasuke and hand it over to her or, at times, his entire clan's reins; as in their eyes, she can handle that exotic object better; you see, she's not crazy and is more worthy of it as a result of her "loyalty and mental stability" as opposed to his "savagery and instability".) Which is another reason why her "saving Sasuke from himself, so that makes her a good fucking person and makes him a bad fucking person" is beaten to death in their discourse and is so like that Dany from The Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones white-savior trope that they've bought hook, line, and sinker. It's like all their favorite female-characters overlap on grounds of "saving the savages from themselves and expecting unconditional support in return". This is regurgitated ad infinitum in all their narratives/fandom spaces. The idea to save people rather than offering any long-lasting change. You'd have to be remarkably mentally deficient to not notice any of that.

That's why they penetrate canon with the idea of western values and redemptive rewards for war-criminals as it's O-K to subjugate people if it means the society can function appropriately. (Why else do you think Tobirama is so popular in this fandom or that these female readers enjoy sucking his cock, going as far as to justifying his policies? He's barely a character in the manga, so it certainly isn't his writing; it's one thing to like a character; it's another entirely to justify it.) That's why they can't seem to stop themselves from refashioning all narratives with the same trope: she, like men, saves the world from destruction that's brought about by the undesirables, those who're savage in their nature, unstable for the "good society" and returns the world to the "natural order", which is just status-quo and endless subjugation to keep the order churning; it's her turn now to show men who's boss, show them that she can be just as good, too! Why should anyone like this neo-colonial fantasy that exists in the candy-wrapper of FFs, made to look harmless, benign, almost naïve when it's anything but that?

Returning to KYH after that detour: how hard is it to sniff this out? What would that make any person from the outside looking in think about you, given that this FF absolutely revels in the pigsty of genocide, even promotes it to be the right call that ought to culminate in a cultural genocide, as well? A complete and total obliteration? (And this is not the only FF of this kind this fool has typed out; she's got plenty on this exact same topic; one of them has Sakura weeping into Itachi's robes, so you get the idea that "Evil-Sama", a moniker she uses for herself, has a raging hard-on for Itachi.) We get it. You hate Sasuke. Cool! Why give this petty penchant for making your dislikes known a sophisticated garb of left politics? (I snorted.) Why call any of this misogyny? Why cloak it in intersectional feminism when it's just pink-/woke-washing at its most naked, yet another tributary of the gutter that's white-feminism? Why consider "desirability" in an extreme patriarchal structure to be leftism?

Grab a book, please, and stay away from this discourse while you're at it. You make the leftist critical-inspection of narratives to be insufferable.

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