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[darkienoir]

Analysis on Katsuki’s Ending

Spoilers for the end of the manga and leaks of volume 42

Long analysis thread:

I am devastated because of the leaks

Because of Katsuki.

His journey throughout the story consisted about taking accountability for his mistakes: the bullying he did.

And oh, he did learn. He did take accountability.

From win to save, he learned to save to win. He helped Izuku train OFA. Got impaled and saved Izukus life.

Then, he apologized without expecting an answer, because he meant it. Katsuki understood that Izuku didn’t have to respond. (Seriously, what would he say? Thank you for taking accountability for making myself miserable during highschool?) Izuku left that past behind ever since he took the “Deku is worth nothing” and rephrased it to: the Deku who can do his best. What I most like about his apology, is that Deku didn’t answer, and Bakugo didn’t demand nor expected one, because it wasn’t necessary. It was Bakugo’s thing to do.

Then, Katsuki died while thinking about him, because Izuku went from the kid he pushed away, to a man he admired:

Fighting through the pain: this is the path you have been walking all this time.

I have to win, right, Izuku?

Can I still catch up to you?

Then, he got another chance at life. He promised that he would never get in between his way, recalling the times he used to bully him.

Here is what makes me weak for him. The way he never forgived himself for what he did. Katsuki was linked to Izuku forever with that way of thinking and acting: although he apologized and walked forward, he never forgot what he did. And he atoned and atoned and atoned. Which isn’t bad. Don’t get me wrong.

But everyone has to move on: he apologized. got impaled for him. And then, much later, built Izuku a suit. HE, of all people, the one who used to bully Deku for being quirkless, gave him his dream BACK.

That’s another fact that makes me weak. Because Bakugo’s heart changed: he believed quirkless people were losers. He bullied. Now, he understands his mistakes and has tried to atone for so, so long. He is not the same and will never do that again.

(What about his foul mouth? You could ask. Man. That is literally a façade. Or that’s how I interpret it. Bark don’t bite. Bro is a dumbass, but is not a bad person.)

All this leads me to the dream he made for himself and Izuku in it: to compete forever. He never cut the link to Izuku. Never got over him. Never stopped atoning.

To sum up: it hurts me that after so much atoning for Izuku, he never atoned for himself. He just got attached to him, revolved his life to Izuku.

Izuku did move on: life makes you walk different paths. He found something in teaching that, clearly, topped off his desire to compete with his childhood friend. He moved on. Remember: 8 years have gone by. Izuku moved on from OFA but Katsuki DIDN’T!

And that’s why his ending hurts. Because he never let go. And that makes me so, so, so sad.

In twitter some say it’s karma. Deku doesn’t have to stick to him for his entire life and I agree: I am happy for Izuku and the path he forged to walk. A new dream. A new person. Not the 17 year old he was.

But Katsuki never let go of the dream he built at 17 and always knew that he would ensure Izukus his dream back. (While Izuku didnt know it would happen so he moved forward…)

Izuku is noble and wants to keep teaching, he has kids to motivate and yada yada. It’s amazing how he has evolved as a character and as an adult. His dream isn’t the same as Katsuki’s anymore. Not the same 17 year olds wanting to compete for the rest of their lifes.

And now, cut to the present. Izuku rejects Katsuki because his dream has changed.

I do believe Izuku recognized Bakugo’s efforts. He has said he is welcome and appreciates the suit!!!! He is happy to be able to fight alongside class 1A!!! this dialogue seems to be forgotten somehow!! My point is: their goals are different now. Izuku moved away from OFA once he lost it / Bakugo never forgot it and kept fighting for it building a suit, that Izuku is thankful for! But seems like competing w his childhoodfriend isnt his main goal anymore

And this change didnt happen quickly because there has been a timeskip! Of 8 years!

However, readers believe it was rushed because all that introspection was cut. I don’t blame you, in fact, I agree with you all. An elypsis wasn’t the right choice to make, but how could have Horikoshi finished the manga!? He cant keep drawing forever! This mangaka was suffering the last year, taking a lot of breaks because his health was in shambles. Therefore, a timeskip it was. But maybe not the best choice to the story, I guess.

But stories sometime need to be concluded. Cant keep holding on for them forever. You can blame it on writing decisions. Anyway, let’s get back to the main point.

The ending hurts from Katsuki’s perspective because he got rejected, because he never let Izuku go. And now, he has a chance to. To develop himself as a man separate of Izuku.

As a shipper it hurts like hell, but man. Katsuki did love him. Take it as romantic or platonic i dont care. But Katsuki cared. A lot. Izuku, I am sure that too. But rejecting the offer doesn’t mean he hates him or is a bad person: he never asked for that suit, he reshaped his dream.

And I repeat. The truth hurts. Reality hurts. And still, this ending was… truly realistic, from their point of view. In that manner, it satisfies me. But on the other hand, as a fan, as a shipper, a fanfiction writer, the ending hurts and I will cope with fan content on my behalf.

The ending wasn’t ass. It was realistic. That’s my take.

(I won’t talk about Izuocha. I do believe it was rushed and off. That’s for another post. Pls don’t talk about Izuocha in this post since they are not the main focus)

[tempoaryblogformightyjensblog]

I do remember seeing an Interpretation of Junko that did make her...Quasi tragic or sympathetic in a way.

Basically the Interpretation of her I saw basically diagnosed her with a case of Hyper depression/Intrusive thoughts. That because of her Ultimate Analyst ability she would constantly Overthink every little thing, and so her way with coping with that Despair was just to try enjoying it. And so she did, and slowly but steadily she grew Obsessed with Despair. 

It is kind of interesting how Junko is both a pretty straightforward villain but there is enough there that you can still do those sorts of deep thoughts and analysis on her

[zarinaa113]

You guys are right that Louie and Scrooge didn't need to apologize to Doofus, Glomgold and Ma Beagle.

But that's not the point. And it is the point.

Scrooge and Louie knew they were in the right, they did nothing worthy of apology. And that's why they never did. But that's not how the others felt. And that's what matters because that caused all the problems. Because the villain's saw it as pride, McDucks thinking they were too good to apologize to the likes of them. But really it was just a matter of perspective, the McDucks didn't think an apology was the case or would help.

Louie had no idea Doofus would swear vengeance on him, he thought he'd helped change him for the better. Glomgold was an easily offended child, no way Scrooge thought he was remotely capable of any of the things he did. He was trying to help him anyway. Ma Beagle on the other hand had the means at the time, but Scrooge didn't think it would last through the generations. Either way, it's a testament to their hatred that it's persisted to this point.

The villains don't deserve apologies. But that's not how they see it. So they do everything they can to get that apology until they are consumed by nothing else. Louie and Scrooge apologizing gave them an out. Because now their cry for attention has been heard and if that's all they wanted they can go back to their lives. Doofus did. Ma Beagle and Glomgold won't. (That has more to do with age and time than anything else.) But this sets the precedent for future McDucks and villains alike, apologizing to them may defuse their anger. Not for what you did if you did nothing wrong, but for hurting them.

Louie and Scrooge take responsibility for unintentionally hurting someone deeply, deeply enough for a life long vendetta. They weren't saying sorry for being 'mean', they were sorry for hurting their feelings. And that made their enemies feel heard and better. There's still gonna be fights but it might be more of a friendly rivalry now, not battle royales to the death.

Obviously, not every villain fits so nicely into this. No amount of apologies will stop FOWL's plans or erase Mark Beaks's jealousy or bring Poe back and Lunaris only saw Scrooge as an obstacle. But it can't hurt to try and that's what Scrooge and Louie learned.

TL;DR McDucks don't need to apologize and they know it but it might stop their enemies before they swear vengeance and that's better to stop in the long run.

[gothic-fiction-in-space]

“He stands alone and gazes out. The sight of the empty city seems to strike him deeply, emotionally… “ - Alien: Covenant early script, John Logan, 2015

The ruins elicit emotions in the Romantic poet, make him think about lot of great and terrible existential problems, make him think about the inevitable decay of all the things built by men, and we see how emotional David becomes when he’s in front of the ruins of the Engineers’ city.

“Romantics were flushed with feeling, with inconstancy, hopeless love, angst, dreams and tempests. They were impassioned, psychically unbound and never happier than when staring through the mist at the jagged silhouette of a good old ruin” - https://www.google.it/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/mar/07/ruins-exhibition-tate-britain-decay

At the same time, poets like Percy Bisshey Shelley, used the theme of the ruins to elicit emotions in the reader, like in the poem Ozymandias. Maybe a bit like David, that recites a part of that specific poem while he’s secretly/not so secretly trying to figure out if Walter can be “corrupted” with emotions. David is trying to see if Walter can develop emotions. For example: few minutes later quoting Ozymandias, David will try to convince Walter he has feelings for Daniels.

[zarinaa113]

What makes Romeo and Juliet tragic isn't that if their parents had stopped fighting they never would have had to die, it's that because of the fight between two of Verona's highest nobles the entire social class was decided to a drastic extent. If things had gone normally, Romeo and Juliet would have met long before that fateful night and been friends before sexual desires could get in the way. And when (or if) they did all they'd need to do was ask to be wed and they'd be allowed no problem.

[zarinaa113]

Can we just acknowledge the fact that Fred said: "I'll be sure to do everything I can to get him (Varian) help." not "I'll make sure he gets what he deserves". 

Like, he can already tell that Varian's just desperate and just needs a hug, some sandwiches and a really good physiologist and he'll be fine. In the start of the episode he was like "he's the most dangerous foe we've ever faced" and by the end he's like "let him keep his pet raccoon. He's been through enough as it is." 

He's only going to jail so that they can keep an eye on him since he's become dangerous and so they can help him. (It is also a punishment. Since he is a kid he needs to learn the consequences of his actions and blah blab blah. I'd leave that to Quirin but that's me.) Fred said that he won't give up till he finds a way to free Quirin. He knows his best bet at getting him out is Varian, they need his help and no one is more willing. Sure, Fred's upset, but Varian's a kid, the kid of his friend no less, he's probably known him a little since he was a baby; who's only doing what he's done because of something that's his fault. (If he hadn't taken the flower then there wouldn't be any rocks. Which Quirin warned him about. Irony. Also the 'Is Punzie guilty' argument) He's not gonna make him suffer, or keep him in jail till he's an adult. He wants to help him. And while it's up to Varian to except his help or join the pirates, I have no doubt that Fred is going to try hard to get him back to the stable alchemist child we know and love.

[zarinaa113]

Yeah, Varian's upset with Punzie and is projecting his guilt about his dad onto her shoulders and tried to kill her, her family and friends. But can we acknowledge that during his scheming he trusted her with the graphtic. He trusted her to not only find it, but to protect it. Even if he was just using her to protect it, he still trusted her too. I think that trust shows that their relationship is salvageable.