I hate how the duffers tried to portray Joyce and Bob’s relationship as unsatisfactory or whatever, even though in reality it was really healthy for the both of them and for Jonathan and Will, just because he was a really good selfless guy and that’s probably due to them being bitter and thinking that men have to be super aggressive and macho in order to be desired by women which is why they portrayed hopper as more aggressive as the show progressed and what-










