ROUND 1 — Match 192 of 276
Astarion Ancunin (Baldur's Gate 3)
Problematic because: "he pulls a knife on you when you first meet him, tries to bite you in your sleep without asking, can literally kill you if you let him keep drinking, and spends a decent chunk of the game approving of cruelty, selfish choices, manipulation, and generally being a bit of a bastard when helping people is inconvenient. his backstory also involves him luring people back to cazador for decades, including victims who were later kept for the ascension ritual, though that part is tied heavily to him being enslaved and controlled. in his personal quest, he can either break the cycle or become much, much worse. if he ascends, he sacrifices thousands of souls, takes over cazador’s position, and starts acting increasingly controlling and power-drunk."
Propaganda: "astarion is awful but he’s MY awful. like yes he did try to bite me in my sleep and yes he approves when i’m a little bit mean to strangers and yes his solution to most problems is “what if we were selfish about this actually.” but he’s also funny as hell, genuinely heartbreaking, and way more complicated than just the sexy vampire guy people meme him as. i love that the game lets him be a victim and also kind of a dick. he’s messy, he’s traumatised, he’s annoying, he’s trying, and sometimes he’s absolutely not trying at all. perfect character. horrible man. 10/10 no notes except many notes from the local authorities."
vs. Riette Luire (The S Classes That I Raised)
Problematic because: "She is overprotective of her brother. By which I mean she forces him to get stronger, breaking and fixing his body to get him there. She (in an alternate timeline) forcibly disbands his guild and kills some of their members, because it was an attempt to be independent and live as a healer, and she felt they were keeping him weak. In this alternate timeline, she kept him locked up in her house. She also has a poor grasp on empathy, consent, restraint, and other such things. She regularly leverages her position as an S-class (nearly impossible to subdue or keep arrested without another S-class getting involved) to get away with causing all sorts of problems. Like attacking people who annoy her. Or destroying entire buildings. Has sexually harassed the main character, who was not interested. He glosses over it, but it is implied that she would have assaulted him if his ally didn't show up and interrupt."
Propaganda: "She turns into a giant black dragon, and I think that's very cool. She's basically the only one who raised her brother and it was all focused on strength. She regularly belittles him for his weakness. He hates her very much and wants to be able to beat her/get out from under her yoke. The first time she saw her baby brother, she loved him instantly. She decided then and there that no one else gets to hurt him. That he was hers. She loves him, and just wants to see him strong enough to survive. His opinion on the matter is irrelevant. He can have one once he's actually strong. In the alternate timeline, she lets him murder her (via proxy) once he proves he is more than skilled enough to survive on his own. Her last words are "Noah, you live!" She dies with a smile on her face. It's just such a fucked up depiction of love. She loves him, but she doesn't take his autonomy or desires into account. It's the extreme of "They can be mad at me, what matters is that they're alive to be mad.""
Who should advance?
Astarion Ancunin
Riette Luire
Voting ended onJul 3
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