#c!sam crit

[imsosocold]

The Dichotomy of Disliking Characters:  

While c!tommy went through a lot of terrible things he also did a lot fucked up stuff not properly addressed by the narrative ( c!dream is  like double this ugh)  such as his treatment of Jack, the torture he put Fundy through, the  possessiveness of  Tubbo, him threatening to kill a child out of jealously, etc. This lack of  resolution makes it hard to like his character combined with the fandom’s tendency to similarly brush over his flaws and woobify him.                                 Oh, c!Sam? Ew, he’s a cop, fuck him. 

[pindl3]

I think the dsmp is doing a great job at showing untrustworthy adults. Like for instance we’ve got c!dream, The Abuser™. Then c!phil, the Trying To Help But Has No Idea What He Is Talking About™, then we’ve got c!Sam, the He Cares But Is Actively Making Things Much Worse™, and then c!Wilbur, the Uninformed And Literally Said The Abuser Was His Hero™

It just goes to show that adults can care, but they can’t always help (and in the case of c!dream. Adults who were once nice can change drastically)

[nightmaremybeloved]

“one of the leaders of the church is supposed to be here but. he’s in prison” who’s fault is that sam.

[ablackswansweet]

"By that standard, isn't everyone kind of a bad guy...?"

NOT EVERYONE RIPS ARMS, WINGS, AND KILLS A GUY (WHOSE KID YOU KIDNAPPED BTW) JUST TO ACT AS LEVERAGE TO THE GUY YOU LOCKED UP WITH DREAM IN CASE HE WOULD BREAK DREAM OUT YOU GREEN IDIOT

[cartoonrival]

@thespoonisvictory​ ok yeah this is kind of where im at now. like. ok he can teleport and also basically never die. those are useful especially in relation to the revive book sure. but it feels very... extraneous? this is an added element that doesn’t explain any unanswered questions or anything like that, its just another, suddenly very blatantly ancient-magick-y aspect lumped on top of a character who frankly wasn’t asking for an additional element like that.

personally, i think part of the reason why c!sam is a good character is because of how human-ly hes fallen from grace. all of his strife related to the prison is either self-inflicted or inflicted by another person by human-ly horrible means of abuse and manipulation etc, and his strife related to the egg was very clearly a man struggling to deal with a supernatural force far greater than he is. but now hes actually god knows how old and magically body-hopping? imo, i takes an element of weakness out of his character; obviously magic powers (using this phrase loosely) doesn’t equal emotional strength but combined with learning hes incredibly old it kind of makes his tragic heroism a little less powerful and potent.

[klm-zoflorr]

Wow bruh c!Sam is fifty flavors of messed up

[knightobreath]

I HATE CSAM HES A BITCH HE KIDNAPPED A KID AND REFUSES TO GIVE HIM BACK I WANT TO KILL

[nefoe-dd]

The ONLY reason why Sam didn’t put Ranboo in the prison was not because he’s ‘a father figure’ or ‘he cares about him,’ its because he did not see any suspicious traits beyond being upset about something that Ranboo refused to tell him. You can bet your ASS that he would have been thrown in there without a SINGLE question if Ranboo was actually outwardly showing destructive traits, or had proof that he had committed something. 

ALSO HE PULLED HIS SWORD OUT ON HIM, WHEN HE WASN’T WEARING ANY ARMOUR. HE WAS READY TO USE FORCE IF RANBOO DID NOT LEAVE.