I don't think there's any saving apocalypse world but the lucifer and alternate michael plots could've been interesting if the writers had thought about their respectice motivations for at least 0.02 seconds. Because. There is NO reason they should be fighting. They should literally be. On the same side.
Seriously though we need a gif comparison post for how the demon and angel eye graphics changed from early seasons to late. I can't find the right gifs in gif search for proper comparison.
The worst offenders, imo, are the terminator eyes of goo!Lucifer when Nick tries to bring him back from the Empty, and michael!Dean's eyes at the end of s13. But the yellow eyes also got worse from early seasons Azazel to late seasons Dagon.
you know the thing spn loves to do where the monster of the week or recurring characters will mirror issues relevant to the winchesters, to help put perspective on them? for a while, most of those were about reflecting sam and dean's current issues, but i feel like after a while a lot of them started to be about their past ones? like, by the time michael and lucifer hit the scene, they're mirroring tensions from sam and dean that were more relevant preseries, or in seasons 1 and 2, than in season 5 — they ARE the problem in season 5, but they are parallels for issues the winchesters have already mostly worked through. raphael arguably is a similar thing, mirroring some of dean's struggles from season 2 ("dad is dead and that's rough but ok, but my brother is gone and i'm alone and that Cannot Stand"), but that aren't really what dean is dealing with anymore by s6 (the "brother was gone" issue was relevant, but debatably less so than it was in ahbl 1 & 2).
in some ways that's cool because the past is never really the past when it comes to major traumas and conflicts, but also it kind of deteriorates some of the tension because we already know what sam and dean did and the emotional arcs and characterization that came out of their situations. "is michael going to choose peace with lucifer over being the good son to an absent father?" is an interesting question but it's maybe a more interesting question if we're also wondering that about dean at the same time, while dean is also struggling with michael causing problems in his life
Dean really did threaten kaia with a gun, huh? basically kidnapping her, even though dreamwalking endangers her.
And jack is in the back seat telling her it's all fine with and that they'll help her with her powers, which, no wonder, considering he's been threatened with weapons/I'll kill you speeches since he was born.
Dean in this episode is so messed up (which i know is coming from somewhere, it's due to guilt over thinking his mom was dead and not looking for her, which could have made a neat S8 parallel if they'd done something with it other than this), and meanwhile Sam enables it and it's all ... very messy.
SPOILERS FOR VOLUME 9. Upon a rewatch of V9E3 I noticed a detail that didn't sit right with me. Again, spoilers
Look at the chess peice on the side, Weiss just cut a sentient being in half. Those things didn't die when the Red Prince took them out at the start of the game and Weiss just up and kills this one and who knows what other peices got killed. I know this episode came out just yesterday (as of when i made this ask) but why is team RWBY so nonchalant about these living beings murder? First those two royal guards getting beheaded then this
I am so sorry I am so behind on..... a lot of asks (don't ask just don't ask know I live in shame and have convinced myself I will get to them all eventually)
Ahem but yea I kind of did notice that one while watching and it did not wind up in my quick review because life lolz but yea it did not sit well with me and continues on the theme of RWBY only cares about saving people when it is convenient to them. If they want to call themselves heroes though......they really can't right now.
Hero's would be trying to find the people they saw fell into the same place they did. Hero's would be horrified and try to stop a ruler from beheading their subjects. Hero's wouldn't leave someone to die. Hero's would do everything in their power to not kill people when possible. But the mains haven't done any of those things in....a very long time.
Seeing them callously potentially kill a sentient being, one's they had no problem taking out non violently earlier, and not deal with that at all just really doesn't sit right with me, especially after a volume where they committed treason over James not thinking he could save everyone and just trying to flee. The show wants me to feel bad for Ruby and her emotional trauma when she A. forcibly injected herself into the war into the first place and B. Refused to show the same care for James's emotional trauma's. I'd argue this disregard for peoples lives started back in volume 6 when Weiss tossed the two guards out of the plane into the Ocean that was implies to be very far out wherein most people couldn't swim back to shore. It's supposed to be comedic but....it feels too dark to be comedic when you stop and think about it.
I just do not understand these choices in the writing to have the mains only sometimes care about civilians lives besides laziness. These choices just feel lazy and is just the writers trying to get from point A to point B without caring if the choices make sense for the characters or setting. I know a lot of people have said Episode 3 has been the best so far of the season but with all of these moments that happened I really cannot agree with that personally.
We're on 12x03 in our rewatch, and I just need to point out YET AGAIN that IN WORLD Mary is 29 freaking years old. SHE should be the FBI trainee. God it drives me CRAZYYYY. They could've at least PRETENDED she looked 29.
Okay, and what about the exponentially longer time Sam perceived his torture IN THE CAGE? Yet Lucifer is supposed to have some stupid redemption arc and Sam isn't supposed to hold all that against him. Even god tried to tell him to get over it. The amount of comedic relief wasted on Lucifer this season... AND forcing me to see the disgustingness of Lucifer/Anael. Total squick. Absolute HAAATE.
And I don't enjoy the return of Gabriel either, despite these parallels they're forcing.🙃
i forgot to say it again the other night when it first came up in our rewatch, but i DESPISE that they made trump presidency canon in spn. you literally didn't need to do that. OR mention hillary. YOU ALREADY HAD PRESIDENT ROONEY
