#cashannah

[sorenmarie87]

She comes first, always.

Title: She comes first, always. Square Filled: CasHannah Ship: Castiel x Hannah Rating: Mature Tags: CasHannah, Castiel x Hannah, first time, CasHannah fluff, smut Summary: It’s a lesson Castiel has learned - your partner’s pleasure always comes first. Created for @spnkinkbingo

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[maxinemartinsdrill]

actually Hannah and cas' awkward road trip should have continued longer and also got weirder. much potential there.

[acklelantern]

so...hanstiel. that ship sailed itself...and then they sunk it.

k. THANKS GUYS!

[littlehollyleaf]

I thought Hanna's feeling for Cas was intense but not romantic. (m/f friendship is my fav, so I alway stand by non-romantic interpretation whenever possible) Regardless, I love that the intensity didn't fade even when Hanna moved to a male vessle. Kudos to both actors x)

AGREE!

Though I think she started to wonder if it was romantic at one point - hence her satisfaction over Cas being flustered at seeing her naked and stuff. But in the end came to realise that what she felt wasn’t romantic, that she didn’t want to be closer to Cas in a romantic or sexual way.

[littlehollyleaf]

i am bad at understanding does misha imply there will be romance or what did that mean because of the question?

Well if the questioner was asking if there was to be (more) romance between Cas and Hannah, and Misha's answer was that her return would not be as expected, then it reads to me that he was implying that her return would NOT involve romance - because Misha was taking the questioner's interest as implying that romance was the expected thing in general.

If you follow?

So I'm highly optimistic that Cas/Hannah romance is very much NOT on the cards :) 

But tbh, I feel like the way the show left them made that clear enough on its own. Hannah's platonic kiss on the cheek goodbye and decision to swear of what she considers human desires, such as wanting to be closer to Cas, narratively put an END to any possible romance between them imo.

[littlehollyleaf]

I don't know if you felt the same, but I just wanted to give Cas a hug when Hannah stripped off in front of him, he looked so awkward, didn't know where to look, bless him. <3

Yes, bless him! Though I don't think he was quite at the 'in need of a hug' stage. He seemed a little flustered to me, but not super uncomfortable or anything. It was more like... he was unsure of Hannah's intent (as, I think, was HANNAH tbh!), and so he didn't know the best way to react. Like, if he should be trying to politely discourage her or not.

Like... When someone touches your hand or arm or the like in greeting or in passing - it's not USUALLY a big deal. BUT if that someone is someone you know has a crush on you, but you very much DON'T reciprocate the feeling, it can make you nervous about the touching - like, you wonder if maybe you should try to avoid it or something, in case for this person being accepting of the touch might be taken as ENCOURAGEMENT that you are actually receptive to romance between you, which is something you are desperately trying to avoid.

I THINK that was maybe partly what was going on with Cas and Hannah. Only with nakedness, not touching - because for angels nakedness is, usually, something as similarly not a big deal as casual touching :p

(and I'm talking, like, CASUAL touching here - not hugging or hand clasping and stuff, which some people, like me, can actually feel pretty uncomfortable about just in general!)

(also - still trying to work out that scene tbh... so this thinking is still liable to change!)

[quillquiver]

Let’s talk about Cas and Hannah’s kiss.

I’m a destiel shipper, so that’s the angle I’m taking here. And honestly, I think that kiss was a great thing for my ship. Here’s why:

I don’t think that the action itself can actually be thought of as evidencing the Cas/Hannah romance. Hannah was doing it because she wanted to hurt Caroline's husband, and I think that Castiel—who definitely began to enjoy it at the end there—wasn’t necessarily so much into kissing Hannah as he was into kissing in general.

I feel like this season, Cas is learning more about superfluous emotion: the feelings a person gets outside of the mission (I have a whole other meta about how ‘the mission’ is really just an excuse to stay on Earth and, in some cases, alleviate Cas’s own personal guilt). Castiel has always had a mission, and he's become more human with every season, but he's never really had the opportunity to feel anything outside of whatever shitstorm he finds himself in. There is always a war or apocalypse or monster to keep him from looking at his emotions too closely.

So, technically yes, Castiel knows betrayal, and pain, and grief, and love, etc… but he's never felt them outside of a certain setting. A setting that allows for limited amounts of emotional introspection because actions are so important and time-sensitive. Now, with Metatron locked up and Dean saved, it feels like things have slowed down a little for Castiel.

We started to see Cas exploring/being more aware of his emotional self last season. This was especially obvious with April, when he was forced to articulate what happened to him and in doing so, was made more aware of why he felt the way he did. He was also a human, so all the new needs and cravings his body had were overwhelming (something he said himself). When he was human, Cas didn’t get to feel and move on… there were so many things, he needed to think about at least some of them to give his body what it wanted. Going off of this, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that, if Castiel has remained human for a longer period, he could have figured out some of his more complex emotions, including his bond Dean (which Metratron kindly and wonderfully comments on at the end of the season).

But this didn’t happen and Cas’s time as a human didn’t last.  He juiced up with another angel’s grace and he was back in the game. He had a mission again. He fell into a place where he understood how his emotions worked and how deep they ran and why he was feelings those things. I think that, now, he's being forced to feel things in a different context, and at a more relaxed pace. This gives him time to explore his emotional state, and ultimately makes him vulnerable. It would make sense, then, that he craves physical contact and closeness from the people he cares about. Hannah was certainly one of those individuals. Castiel’s love for her was obvious, but I don’t think it was romantic. He rebuffed her advances twice, and his reaction to her nakedness can easily be explained (as suchfunarewe pointed out) in two different ways:

He’s still living on borrowed grace and is becoming more human.

He doesn’t think that he can be where/with whom he wants right now. His reaction did hold a large amount of discomfort, and the fact that he’s vulnerable and craving closeness would definitely cause a more human body to react a certain way… even if it’s not for the person he wants to be reacting to (i.e. Dean).

So, do I think that kiss canonized Cas/Hannah? No, mostly because she was clearly doing it for another reason, and because Cas was just craving closeness. If he had been totally into it, he would've responded more quickly. Also, keep in mind that out of the three kisses Castiel has had, two happen in much the same way: Hannah’s kiss greatly resembles April’s in that Cas gets kissed and flounders for a while before hesitantly responding. I think it’s pretty clear that he knows what do to in terms of logistics at this point, so that hesitance boils down to Cas not sure about wanting kiss the person he’s with rather than not knowing what to do.

From my perspective, all this kiss did was show me how vulnerable Castiel is right now. He’s craving closeness and support and will get it where he can find it, because he’s being forced to delve more deeply into himself and his current emotional state.

***Gifs by the amazing hallowedbecastiel. I will never make them as pretty as she does!

EDIT: In support of this 'castiel is craving closeness theory', put a magnifying glass to hallowedbecastiel's second gif. Castiel steps away a little bit before leaning forward again. He actually steps back twice (and these steps are Castiel’s instinctual response to the kiss, not due to a loss of balance because Hannah is firmly holding him). The fact that these steps even happen is extremely telling, but the second one is what I’m most interested in.

Look at his body language. He makes a tiny, barely noticeable step away, and his head follows in the same pattern. This, to me, is indicative that, even though Cas is enjoying the contact—the closeness, this kiss is not happening with the person he wants it to. His first reaction is to move away, but he craves the intimacy that comes kissing so much that he leans in just a little bit when Hannah pulls away.

But keep looking at the body language, because while Castiel looks like he’s enjoying the contact, he makes no move to get closer. He’s solidly and completely taking up the left half of the screen, and though he isn’t necessarily retreating, he’s not pushing to be in Hannah’s space. In my opinion, Cas just really loves what kissing gives him on both an emotional and physical level. At a time where he’s being forced to think and rethink what he is, he takes comfort in a very human thing: the comfort of closeness. Of contact.

But he doesn’t look, in my opinion, like he’s in love. Instead of asserting himself and leaning in, which you would expect from two people in love (especially two people who view themselves as equals), he folds into himself. I wouldn’t pay attention to this if this was during a scene where the contact was rough, like in Dean’s earlier kissing scene. There, there’s clearly a push and pull. But this scene with Cas and Hannah? I don’t think Castiel is in love with her. I think that he feels vulnerable and he’s seeking comfort. Hannah is there and he cares about her, which is why he continues with the kiss even though she’s not his first choice. Then, who is his first choice, you ask?

Personally, I think it’s Dean.

[littlehollyleaf]

butterflydm replied to your text post 

She seemed really gross and manipulative to me in that scene, so I don't think we're going to see this the same way. Sorry. :-/ 

mostly because he already turned her down, so her doing a ~mating ritual~ now is just like Dean chasing after someone who has sworn off sex, to me

No need to be sorry for the way you see/understand things, hon! There's no right or wrong interpretation here, there's just interpretation.

To respond to your second point here about how Cas had already turned her down, though, just to clarify my understanding not to try and argue against yours x  -

See, this is where my initial assumptions about the 'don't let feelings distract us' scene comes into play. Because I felt like it wasn't a complete turning her down at the time - that there was a slight vibe of 'we're both attracted to each other, but we can't act on that attraction, as much as we might want to, because it would distract us from the mission.'

So I can see how Hannah might have understood Cas' words that way. So to me, I feel like she'd been respecting what she understood Cas to have said back then, which boiled down to - 'we can't explore or in anyway act on any possible attraction to each other until the mission is over.' Which is why she made the point of saying how the mission going well and most of the 'major rogues' had been returned to Heaven. In her mind the mission was practically over, so she felt they had reached an appropriate time to explore their feelings for each other.

I hope that explains my thinking some anyway!