oh my god for the ship ask meme CAN I CHOOSE ONES WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY uhhh. okay how do we feel about: estinien x ysayle; wol x minfilia; wol x thancred ;p
Estinien X Ysayle:
It shouldn’t work, for various reasons. Not the least of which is how cruel he is to her, and how aloof, for so much of the roadtrip. She’s just as traumatized as him, but still manages to express herself better and care about other peoples’ feelings…which might be where things start to come in, as it’s the Ice Maiden who is one of the warmest friends the WoL has.
Estinien isn’t as “tough guy” in other translations as in EN, but he is still the man who canonically didn’t learn his comrades’ names as a temple knight, until he met Aymeric and they survived and killed a dragon together. Also he has no hobbies. But the friendships formed on that roadtrip are a core part of Heavensward, and the understanding Estinien and Ysayle come to about Ishgard’s history and their beliefs is a huge part of that. There’s a decent age difference between them–she’s 24, he’s 32–but they’re both adults and shaped in similar ways by the terrible things they’ve suffered.
I’m actually very fond of this ship–either platonically or romantically–and it’s obvious how much she meant to him; not only how she came to help at the Final Steps of Faith, but the flowers the WoL finds at Azys Lla in their journey of remembrance, last seen in the final cutscenes of 3.5 when Estinien slunk off. Or in his Stormblood short story, and what he named his set of armor (interesting parallel to what he renamed his spear…).
I’ve read a few steamy ExY fics, and a few where he’s mourning her and what could have been if he weren’t such a stubborn, emotionally-stunted ass. The tragic aspects of it work for me, though AUs where they get to be together are a pleasure.
WoL x Minfilia
Another tragic one now. Among my friends who do ship their WoLs, there were Concerns pre-Shadowbringers before we knew the deal with Ryne, because it IS a popular ship for those who recognize Minfilia is a decent character shortchanged by ARR (*cough* Sorry, I have Feelings).
My own WoL has a more good friends/sisters vibe with her (and Ysayle, for that matter) given the “no one else Gets this Chosen of Hydaelyn thing but you.” But for those who do ship it romantically, that is definitely grounds for great star-crossed romance, as duty to Hydaelyn and how destiny plays out for Her Chosen works, what with having to save worlds and all.
I wanted Minfilia to come home so badly; I’m OK with how things turned out, though with the uneven, rushed writing of ARR and her put on the bus at the end of it, I feel she became a plot device more than a character. So I can’t get my head around a romance with her for my own characters, but can certainly see others falling for her, cuz she’s actually a really good leader and person, with some hidden depths hinted at in many quests and particularly her short story.
So yeah. Tell me you ship your WoL with Minfilia, and I’m for it. I’ll also bring you hot cocoa and fuzzy blankets, you poor nerd.
WoL x Thancred
OK. So, y’all know I’m mad about this Damned Rogue and my own WoL. Because here’s the thing:
Yes, he’s a favorite of mine, as he is a character archetype I enjoy and hits a lot of tropes I like. I am a fan and he is my disaster son and I swear to Gods, SE, don’t you dare, he has scared me enough this expansion let the man rest and have some nice moments with his new daughter. HOWEVER.
Thancred’s also the expected ship. Let’s be honest: if this were a Bioware game? He’s the Alistair*, or the Kaidan. The “Typically Good Looking Companion you meet early in the game and form a quick connection with.” Yes, he’s super competent, witty, kicks butt when needed, gets in all sorts of trouble we have to get him out of…but he’s also convenient. Unlike some other popular ships, Thancred’s (nearly) guaranteed to be at the WoL’s side as a fellow Scion. There’s more opportunity.
So it’s an easy ship, but that doesn’t make it bad! On the contrary, it’s a lot of fun and makes a lot of sense to me–more than some of those others, actually, as any Scion ship works well thanks to time and proximity to the WoL. Well, when the Archons aren’t being sidelined in earlier expacs to nerf the WoL/Scions, anyway…
Still. I’ma read lots of WoL x Thancred fics and fret my own isn’t original enough/too much like so-and-so’s, or people will dismiss it as “just another Thancred ship” but given how folks seem to react when I write anything remotely shippy (or am prompted into doing so, you fiends), I objectively know I’m probably safe on that. But, y’know, writing anxiety.
I just enjoy the dynamic–and I admit, in my DA games? Alistair all the way. Also Cullen in DA:I, another example of the trope and the boy’s been there since Origins. Heck, even way back in the original KotOR? My Revan romanced Carth, the first permanent companion. I never said I was immune to the “Typically Good Looking Companion you meet early in the game and form a quick connection with” trope!
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(*so then my mind goes “so is Y’shtola the Morrigan?” And I can’t decide if they would love or hate that comparison, if they’d instantly hate each other or if they’d end up drinking tea and talking about about magic and their witch moms for hours, it’s a toss up)












