#charles mintz

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Shake And Rattle “Skeleton Frolic” (1937)

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Everyone I know (including WIKIPEDIA somehow!!!!!) likes to make fun of Charles Mintz, but do we actually know anything about his personality? IIRC I've never read a single thing about him before aside from Walt calling him 'Charlie Looing' multiple times in telegrams to his brother.

I can't claim to know anything about what the man was like aside from inferring from his business practices. But I think it's very telling that when he took over his wife's business (something she had built on genuine love for the animation medium and earnest desire to promote & improve talented voices) he immediately turned it into a venture on how to wring the most money possible out of it, by underpaying artists and demanding greater output with lesser quality. So not even counting the fact that he's the inception point for Disney making his own company to get out from under his thumb, the impression he left on history is not a flattering one.

But hey maybe the guy was a really loving husband and father who gardened rare breeds of tulips in his spare time, I don't know!

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Old Epic Mickey fanfics where they turn Charles Mintz into this mustache-curling evil supervillain who kidnapped Oswald will never not to be funny to me. Like, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what he pulled on Walt was alright, but it's just so bizarre and honestly very one-sided to see this real person being reduced into such a overly evil caricature for this one really shady business decision when Walt himself wasn't a saint either.

I'm very picky when it comes to involving the actual humans and creators into meta Disney stuff, especially Walt himself. Some depictions of him are way too perfect and idealistic, while I think some are way too negative (which honestly comes down to an issue in how people perceive Walt in general. People make him out to either be a perfect saint who could do no wrong or literally Hitler himself, which are both typically very unrealistic takes). Like, these are real people, they aren't cartoon characters. They're not good or bad to me, they're human.

Just stuff I think about.

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The only ppl ever who i think have the minimal right to do that are krazy kat fans and even they go as far as "man he fucked up the animated shorts so hard fuck him " at most from what i've seen

The way some of yall demonize charles mintz has me disguested and if ur one of the ppl who try pulling that "while Walter disney was a perfect father (who never abused his animators or ruined the lifes of multiple voice actors and actresses) charles mintz sprung out of the ground one day with his devilish horns and TORTURED oswald And took enjoyment in it and those redesigns? Those were TORTURE methods Etc etc" not only ignoring the fact that mickey also got a real shit redesign brother look at him and got turned into something much worse than oswald ever was as the time skipped

But also the fact charles mintz was a real person, who was just like living and had an opposite of midas' hand when it came to animation but thats all he was just some dude who pulled some crazy stunts but at the end of the day was A REAL PERSON who prob didnt even think of it that much especialy since oswalds shorts got a new lead shortly after him and his wife was pulling more work that him from what I get

The way yall try glazing Walter disney saying any critisism any destain or anything negative anyone has to say abt him despite there being tons of things to back it up is "just made up" "oh its just so little" "oh it was a lil mistake" and if it wasnt "he made sm stuff later so obviousky that takes away from all the stuff happening behind the scenes" and "it wasnt that big youre just a jaleous whore'

But when charles mintz pulled yeah some bad shit that yeah was objectivly bad and he should be critisised over then ppl try to make him out into some awful abuser to justify how pent up they got over imaginary scenarios in their heads w this very real man

This is how yall who do it look

Yall aint welcome here!

Flame out ✌️

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reading bob thomas' Walt Disney biography and god....nobody will ever be as cunty as charles mintz was

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I greatly admire Walt Disney and everything he created, I consider him an inspiration to me. I don't like how people like to villainize him, saying things like that he was a Nazi sympathizer or that he was racist. I know he wasn't perfect, but the truth is that no one is, that's what makes us human. I have enormous respect for him, for Roy, Ub and other classic Disney employees. The people I have no respect for are people like Katzenberg, Eisner, Chapek and Iger. They may have done a lot of good things for the company, but they also did a lot of bad things.

Sorry this got a bit long , however Honestly the modern CEOs to me have done nothing but damage I have nothing good to say Iger is the only one I can say there is a little bit that he has done to help contribute

Eisner was only thinking about the mermaid movies

Katzenberg damn near took down black cauldron if you don't know what I'm talking about he literally hated a scene so much he tried telling these animators to edit out certain parts even though this was the 1980s and that was damn near impossible he kept on trying to pressure them into doing it Eisner basically had to pull his leash so he would leave the movie alone however they did make sure that one scene was cut down

Katzenberg is also the reason 2D animation is out of the company but I will give him the factor that he created DreamWorks out of sheer spite with Spielberg and Geffen and that still gets me cackling to this day

Eisner though is the reason Splash Mountain was named that did you know originally Splash Mountain was called the Zip a Dee ride but he renamed it to Splash Mountain after the Splash H20 movie

And let's not mention the train wreck that was the '90s Eisner was literally trying that one Steve Buscemi meme of hello fellow kids there was actual gang fights because of the Clubs for teens he made that became known to the local gangs and became hang out spots. No I'm not joking go look it up and in the parking lot of Disneyland a kid was shot and killed over these gang rivalries

I'm not even going to mention Chapek because he made Eisner look like a saint in just 2 years canceled Owl House went on a anti-lgbtq rant was quantity over quality many projects were canceled because they did not align with his values

When the board members literally hunt Iger back down because they want to boot this guy out you know he's very fucked

And then Iger started out promising he would even go to the parks and make sure everything was okay. Nobody in the CEO position had really done that just randomly like him since Walt, this is why the 2010s are seen as some of the best years because he was initially pretty damn good

But then he started slipping I don't know if it's just a fumble because he's trying to repair everything with Chapek, but he is made some condemming decisions, especially with the whole Palestine and Anti LGBTQA situation right now.

When it comes to Walt Roy and Ub, I will be the first to tell you Walt was not perfect however he definitely was not a Nazi sympathizer he in fact had Donald hit Hitler in the face with a tomato at one point in time,

And as for people saying he was anti-semite that was based on an old rumor because of the whole no beards thing of the parks

like legitimately it was rumored at one point he was a part of the Communist Party like these are very old rumors that were proven untrue.

He didn't like beards because according to people around him he was afraid women would find them intimidating you got to remember the societal side it was a completely different era not an excuse however you have to factor it in whether you like it or not.

Walt Roy and Ub were three guys just trying to make it like everyone else, that's not even bringing up what would happen with Oswald damn near brought the company to it's knees because Oswald was supposed to be the mascot supposed to be the one they made their shorts off of and just when they think they have it it's all taken away by Mintz

Left damn near penniless and with only a few sketches of what would become Mickey Mouse did they escape Universal and with hard work but also on a wish and a prayer did they manage to bring it back from the brink.

If you see the villain in up btw Charles Muntz yeah that's why they made Charles Muntz I still laugh when I watch that film because the pettiness is beautiful. Thank you to the animators at Pixar and Disney for spitting in his face over half a century later turning him into a literal Disney villain

That is still the greatest comeback I've ever seen.

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The Great Experiment (Mintz, 1934) - dir. Sid Marcus - ft. Scrappy