#cleo fox

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OUAT APPRECIATION WEEK 2024

DAY 3- FAVOURITE ORIGIN STORY:

CLEO FOX, EMMA, AND THE ARMOUR.

Guys, I WISH we got more Cleo flashbacks, she was such an interesting character! I love the impact she had on Emma’s life, and she deserved the world. I will forever mourn her. Rest in peace, Cleo.

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Jennifer Morrison and Rya Kihlstedt as Emma Swan and Cleo Fox

Once Upon a Time 5x20 - Firebird

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OUAT Rewatch 5x20 - Firebird

You're holding on too tight. Emma - let go. Let go.

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OUAT: Here is an episode about how Emma had a woman die in her arms after trying to help her.

Me: Oh wow, are you finally going to go into what the trauma of multiple people dying in her arms has done to her?

OUAT:

Me:

OUAT: It’s her jacket origin story.

Me:

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I have a question for all the Oncers here

So in season 5 episode 20 it's revealed that Emma became a bails bond person because of Cleo Fox who tried to bring her in. Now as an Austrian who doesn't know how the American system works i don't fully understand why Cleo is onto Emma and Emma is trying to escape from her. If my memory serves correctly that was after Henry's birth when Emma already served her sentence, right? Why did Cleo have to get her back? Or was there another illegal thing Emma did other than "the Watch inncitend" before or after her pregnancy? What is it that i'm not understanding here?

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I feel like making Cleo a foster mother vs. bail bondsperson would’ve been a better bet. Have her be a social worker, so Emma would still have access to the database. Set it up as Emma’s last home before she ran away. Have Cleo be the one that taught her that she needed to start being tough and stop searching for a family that “didn’t exist”.

She still could’ve died if that was important to the writers. But rather then having Emma learn this lesson at 25...it’d be better used at 16.

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Emma’s Mothers

For someone who said she had no family growing up...Emma sure had a lot of parental figures that helped shape her way. At least in the maternal sense.

The obvious start is the woman who brought her life. The one we can argue is her real mother. Snow gave Emma up to give her, her best chance and fought for them to have a relationship post-curse. It’s not always perfect, but you cannot deny that Snow loves Emma with everything in her and would die protecting her.

Then there was Emma’s first family. The mother that gave her away, because she had another child. For 3 years, she raised Emma and gave her a home. That had to stick with Emma, even just a tiny bit.

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Before Ingrid, Emma was placed in a foster home that treated her pretty well. They’re going to bring Emma on her first ever vacation. We know that Katie (the foster mother) treated her like one of her own children. She’s the one that tries to explain that she does view Emma as one of theirs, even if Bill clearly doesn’t.

Unfortunately, this was probably when Emma began to realize that she was right when she left the group home in Boston. No one is ever going to look at her and see “kid”.

A bit later, we see Ingrid with Emma. Ingrid takes an interest with Emma and actually does things with her. She even wanted to adopt her. We see that Emma had even told Ingrid that she loved her. Even though Ingrid made it clear they could be like sisters, you could tell that Emma viewed this as one of her most positive mother role models. Until Ingrid pushed her in front of a car and showed Emma that she really couldn’t trust anyone.

The final mother figure we see is Cleo Fox. She’s the one that teaches Emma a very valuable lesson, and that’s in the art of letting go. Emma has allowed herself to be emotional over these things for years and it’s controlling her life. She’s a thief and she’s constantly on the run. Cleo tells her to make something of herself. Stop running and face your problems. It’s what inspired Emma to start her career and her adult life. It proves that just because you’re an adult, it doesn’t mean you’re too old for a little parenting lesson. And I think that would later come full circle with Emma allowing her own mother to parent her in a sense from time to time by giving her advice.

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I think ignoring that Emma had also given up a child in the Cleo episode was odd. I understand why they had her still searching for her parents, but in a way I feel it might have been better if she tried to find Henry and Cleo talked her out of it as a fellow birth mother.