Tubbo: “I just don’t understand why you think the things you do, and I don’t understand your justifications, and I don’t agree with a lot of what you said, and I think that is honestly because we are different.”
This right here, Tubbo says it right here at the end, this is the point. Tubbo doesn’t understand because in his own words they are different.
Nation Health Society: “Being autistic does not mean you have an illness or disease. It means your brain works in a different way from other people.”[link]
And of course they are, their brains are literally structured differently, this is just basic scientific knowledge. They don’t think the same way. That is the concrete proof both sides are asking for. This right here. This is why they can’t see eye to eye, because Dream is autistic and until that is taken into consideration when talking with him, they will never see eye to eye. Because they are speaking two different languages and don’t even know it and until they realize one person is talking about a British jumper and the other is talking about an America jumper they can talk for hours and hours and nothing will change, they won’t get it because they aren’t taking translation into account.
So as sad as it is to say, until Dream being autistic is actually recognized and taken into consideration by the creators and internet, nothing will change. This 3 hour conversation is testament to that, to the struggles of the autistic to communicate and convey their thoughts when they are coming from a completely different way of viewing the situation.
Given that the “If YouTubers Were Honest” video seems to be the breaking point talked about by both Dream in his stream and Tommy in his recent podcast, I kinda wanna talk about it a little more for a second.
(note: I haven’t seen the podcast because I refuse to pay and missed my opportunity when it was on YouTube but here are a couple summaries/transcripts of both it and Dream’s stream from two different pastebins).
First off, personally, I don’t even find the video funny. (I mean the best part is arguably the Philza rap, but anyways.) Clearly, Dream was massively hurt by it, as he says in his stream and as evident by the scathing text messages he evidently sent to Tommy afterwards. But I don’t think it’s hard to see why he’d be hurt. It’s already a painful situation, he’s already under fire from fans and then this just makes it worse. Dream and his family are currently dealing with doxing and scary things, meanwhile Tommy thinks it’s a good idea to make a video joking about it? wtf. That’s messed up any way you spin it in my mind. You can say the qsmp fans weren’t the people coming after Dream but we know this isn’t true, you can say the video didn’t make that big of a difference but it has 2.2 millions views so I hardly think so. If we know anything about the internet it’s that often humor goes over people’s heads.
The biggest argument made by Tommy that is also mentioned by Tubbo recently, is that the video is satire, and a joke so it was supposed to be funny and not taken seriously. But here’s the thing, satire is based on truth. It’s using irony, sarcasm, exaggeration of truths widely known in a humorous way to humiliate someone or a group of people, often to point out a flaw or corruption and such. One of the most famous satires is A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift which suggests that in order to solve the problems of poverty in Ireland the poor should butcher their children and sell them for food for the rich. This is ridiculous, but also based in truth right? Ireland was actually dealing with poverty and starvation as a result of over population so why not eat the children. Technically, as ridiculous as it is, it is still based on truth even if an extremely over the top answer with crazy reasoning. But technically speaking, it would solve the issues that exist. That’s part of why it works to make fun of the corruption and poor logic of the elite and politicians, as well as their callousness toward the suffering people of the lower class. Satire is the extension of irony and irony is based off of the truth. Dramatic irony is when the audience knows something the character does not, which makes what the character does problematic often in a funny or tragic way. If you’ve seen Wicked then a foreshadowing dramatic irony in the song “The Wizard and I” is about how ‘there will be a day where all of Oz celebrates her and she’ll be so happy she can melt’, which the audience knows is pretty true from The Wizard of Oz, only her melting is her death and all of Oz celebrates that. It’s true, that’s what makes it funny or tragic and satire is just the extreme extension of that.
What Tommy did, was not the truth. He lied, something Dream specifically points out as a main problem he had with the video. Tommy didn’t do satire, he wasn’t highlighting a specific flaw in Dream and Quackity or irony in the situation, he just painted a narrative that wasn’t true and used that to make fun of Dream. That’s the problem with it, that’s why it’s hurtful and not funny (in my opinion). It’s missing the satirical elements of irony and sarcasm that come from being clever with the truth. And that’s why Dream was hurt by it because Tommy made a video lying about a situation where people were already rallying against him, to an audience who already hates him. Tommy just straight up made fun of Dream for laughs in one of the lowest points in Dream’s life.
Even further, what’s also flawed with the argument that it was just a joke is what Tommy says in the podcast
“He didn’t expect Dream to snap at him over the “If YouTubers Were Honest” video. He used that video to test Dream because he had many friends telling him that Dream’s a bad person but Tommy told them no and didn’t believe them. After he posted the video, Dream sent him a very long angry message that was full of horrible words, which made Tommy realize Dream’s a bad guy.”
Tommy didn’t expect Dream to snap? But also did it as a test? Seriously?! Oh let me see how far I can make fun of Dream until he snaps at me and when he does this confirms he’s a bad guy… it’s just a joke my ass, you didn’t just make a video for laughs, you made it in your own words to test Dream and your friendship, furthermore to test how far you could push him until he snaps (<- huh wouldn’t you know, isn’t that a familiar idea…). During a time when you know his mental health is suffering and he and his family are being actively doxxed. That’s just insane. That’s like… like… it’s so wild I’m struggling for an analogy… it’s like kicking a starving animal to test how dangerous it is and then after it finally bites you, labeling it a danger to society…
In summary, Tommy didn’t make a satirical video joking about Dream, he performed a humiliating skit about Dream, making fun of him. In order to test if Dream would snap at him and then labels Dream a bad guy when he does…
!! Very sorry !! How about ✋ for Drema? (I hope I am not mistaken with the character's ownership this time, if I am, please use this hand emoji to slap me into the right direction 😩)
✋ Are your OC’s hands smooth, rough, or average? Why? How do they keep their nails? Do they bite them, paint them, neatly trim them, et cetera?
her hands are very rough and callus, from lock picking and fighting and now days building and fixing homes, and she likes em that way. theyre very steady and she has a pretty strong grip if she were ever to grab you
dyou think george ever ends up having a moment of doubt and possibly betrayal against dream in the peter pan au? thatd be interesting because for george itd be going against someone hes always been beside, always been loyal to, whereas dream would be crossed by the one person he thought he could trust and rely on -wingless
Oh yeah he does. He does have a moment of doubt and does eventually betray Dream. He got attached to Sapnap and that broke his usual apathy towards everything. It’s an act of betrayal towards Dream.
Now we can either have the betrayal either be during a battle, or it could be quiet and be just turning his head the other way and feeding Dream some wrong info.
If it is during battle, well you can bet that Dream will throw a knife right at George. If it is quiet betrayal, then we have Dream just grabbing George, stuffing him in a lamp or some shit, and locking him in there.
