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Doctor Strange 2 Trailer 2 Thoughts

I’m back from another unplanned absence to talk about the second trailer. It was a doozy. I try to take all these trailers with a giant dash of salt because MArvel lies so much, but I just don’t know what to think.

Spoilers ahead if you don’t want any info.

- “Vis had his theories.” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canon may have given me a very low bar, but thank you for not completely forgetting about Vision again Marvel. I may get my heart broken, but I’m still hoping he’ll be one of the cameos. Although given how the other ones are turning out, it may be an evil version. :((((((

- There was not enough Wanda in this trailer for my liking.

- It was very poignant when she was looking at herself. I’m curious whether she spends some of her time looking through different universes, and that’s what we’re seeing. I have seen that concept in fics. I just hope there are some happy universes for her, but it does not look like that will be explored. 😭😭

- I do agree that it’s not fair that she always gets blamed when others can break the rules with no repercussions.

- Also curious why she was fighting Captain Marvel (I believe?). Whether it was alternate universe evil Captain Marvel or main timeline Captain Marvel trying to bring her into custody??????

- I hope they’re not doing possessed Wanda when she has the ring of red around her eye. It kind of seems like something might be hiding behind that eye but idek

- Also, the first time I watched the trailer, I watched it without sound. I really thought the side shot of the bald head was the Ancient One. But even though the trailer caption said “mystery voice,” it was clearly Patrick Stewart. I’m still reserving judgment on whether that means that’s the introduction of the “real” X-Men into the MCU. 

- The rest of the trailer was fine and dandy, but I’m really only here for Wanda (and the hope of Vision)

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Somewhat Optimistic WandaVision/DS2 Thoughts

So I know a lot of the news from SDCC 2019 does not sound too good for Scarlet Vision fans. The more I think about it, the more scared I am as well. Typically, I like to utilize defensive pessimism in these situations to protect myself from disappointment, but that didn’t work too well for me for Endgame. So I say screw it! I am going with offensive optimism. Marvel will not steal my joy at the prospect of my minor character OTP being featured in their own series and Wanda being in DS2. Even if the very worst case scenario comes to pass, we always have fanfiction and other media. Marvel is not the boss of me, and I decide what canon I will accept. 

In an effort to hold onto my sanity for the beginning of another long two year wait, I have thought of some possible scenarios that, while far from ideal, are not as dire as some of the possibilities. I don’t think these are likely, but they give me some comfort.

Scenario #1 

In WandaVision, we start off with Wanda and Vision living an idyllic life, a la a 1950s sitcom. Then things start to subtly go wrong. The wrongness escalates and gets wierder and wierder thoughout the show. By the end, we see that the life they built was all an illusion, and Wanda has been captured by Nightmare. According to a little research I did, Nightmare has imprisoned humans and gains power from their psychic energies. Wanda would certainly be a potent source of power for him. This leads directly to DS2.

In DS2, Strange learns that Wanda has been captured when Nightmare tricks her into attacking various targets. Alternatively, Strange learns of this just by traveling through the multiverse. He works to rescue Wanda. Maybe Nightmare tries to stop him by convincing Wanda that it is Strange who is trying to take away her ideal life. This is all resolved and Wanda is fully awake and free by the first half of the movie.

In the second half, Wanda and Strange work together to defeat Nightmare. They have to fight against his illusions and tricks and travel throughout the multiverse together to stop him. Throughout their travels, in addition to learning how to stop Nightmare, they also find the secret to bringing Vision back for real.

At the end, Nightmare is defeated and Strange, Wanda, and maybe Shuri et al. bring Vision back. He still thinks it right after IW. Wanda is still more traumatized by the events of WandaVision and DS2, but she gets the chance to retire with Vision and start a new chapter of her life, including having the twins.

Scenario #2

I know Marvel has said that the release dates do not always match the timelines of the movies, but they seem to line up a lot of the time. Based on that assumption, suppose when WandaVision starts, two years have gone by since Endgame. Shuri et al. have brought back Vision for real. She was able to copy his consciousness and he’s himself. Wanda and Vision are married or living together happily. They’ve come a long way in recovery since Endgame was over. 

Then, Vision starts to act strangely. I keep going back to the earlier leaks of Vision being possessed by an evil entity. Now, it’s always possible that they were never accurate or were a discarded early idea, but suppose for the sake of argument, that they are accurate. Suppose Nightmare is the entity that is influencing Vision. The situation gets worse and worse until Vision is completely captured/possessed. This again leads directly to DS2.

Vision is doing all sorts of terrible things under Nightmare’s influence, and Wanda goes to Strange for help to stop Nightmare and bring Vision back to himself. 

The rest continues much as the earlier one with Wanda and Strange working/training together and traveling the multiverse. Nightmare is defeated at the end, and Vision is free. Wanda and Vision again retire together and have the twins.

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Spoiler-Filled Spider-Man: No Way Home Thoughts

Hello!

I’ve taken an unexpected, unplanned several month hiatus from Tumblr but I just had to talk about Spider-Man as soon as I got home.

No particular order. Don’t expect any coherence here, just reactions.

All sorts of spoilers below the cut.

- I love all three spidermen together!!!!!! It was wonderful. They all felt like their own characters, while also all being Peter Parker. I really was doubting that they would all show up. Totally worth it! It was definitely my favorite part of the movie.

- And Peter’s fight with Strange at the beginning was awesome. It made me even more hyped for DS2. Not as much as the second post-credits scene though 😍🥰🥰🥰😍😍😃😃😃😃🤩🤩🤩🥰🥰💘💞💝💖💖💖

- I enjoyed the villains together, as well.

- IT may be partly nostlgia talking, but Tobey is still my favorite spiderman and Molina’s Doc Ock is still my favorite villain of any of the trilogies.

- I was mad that they killed off Aunt May. I was sort of thinking that’s how it would go, and it fits with the theme of Peter being all alone. But enough fridging Marvel!! Justice for Aunt MAy! You already put her with Happy of all people.

- One of my favorite moments was Tobey preventing Tom Holland from killing Osborne

- Peter and MJ were so cute together. I really hope they also get to say hello again.

- I was kind of surprised that Kang wasn’t involved somehow, at least as far as we know at this point

- It was a little anticlimactic that the villains probably won’t be back in the MCU going forward. That could have been interesting.

- I did not like the Statue of Liberty holding Cap’s shield. I can’t exactly put my finger on why it bothered me so much, but I’m glad it’s already gone

- I do like Spider-Man getting back to his roots and less of the focus being on Tony

- I’m sure there’s more, but I’m getting tired now

I don’t care about the Tom Hardy Venom scene at all.

But the DS2 scene!!!!!! It definitely was cut more like a trailer than most post-credits scened. I really hope that means a more detailed one is close to release as I’ve heard. 

Wanda!!!! I’ve missed her. No Vision yet sadly, but I’m still holding on to hope. And Strange came to her to ask for help! Not to scold her! And there’s no indication yet that she played any role in breaking the multiverse!!!! I think it’s pretty clear that she learned about the multiverse from the Darkhold.

One thing that I noticed is that the house she’s in is much bigger than what we see in WandaVision, unless its more deceptive editing. Perfect to hold a family!!!! 

There will be definitely be fanfiction forthcoming about the possibilities. I can’t believe there’s still 5 months!!!!