8. the 10th gen are the reincarnation of the 1st gen
9. tsuna and the 10th gen aren't actually friends
10. evil manipulative luce/sky arco
11. what about this one?? (tell me in the tags!)
Voting ended onNov 19, 2025
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This is it, guys. The fanon khr poll to end all fanon khr polls. The final boss of fanon khr polls. Brought to you by yours truly randomly because i can lmao.
Special thanks to House of Animation's explanation video and Otaku Stickman's video breakdown alongside the KHR wiki for refreshing my memory. Check them out for more way more details than you'll find here!
So you're brand new to Katekyo Hitman Reborn's power system?
Perhaps you've heard of Reborn before and are just now thinking of checking it out and ran into this post organically. Or, maybe you found this post through my blog because you've been reading the My Hero Academia fanfiction I'm writing and want to know more about the Dying Will flames that I shoved into the AU.
Either way, here is a very, very basic crash course on what they are, how they operate physically and their more symbolic purpose as either guardians or the leader of a group.
So, here we go!
Sky Flames
Main Description:
The purest and rarest of all flames.
It’s attribute is Harmony (and Leadership):
A perfect state with no flaws or contradictions
Accepts, balances, purifies and harmonizes with all other flames/elements
Can strengthen, absorb or combine other flames/elements qualities
Can petrify/freeze other flames
Special States/Facts:
Sky flames can be soft or hard.
Soft: Stabilizes and regulates for precise control
Hard: Concentrated destructive bursts for combat
Purpose:
“Rain, Storm, Cloud, Sun, Mist, and Lightning, he influences all of them. He understands and accepts all of them”
Storm Flames
Main Description:
The raw power to corrode and breakdown anything it touches.
It’s attribute is Disintegration:
It can break down other Dying Will flames
Aggressive, volatile and unstable
Its users are passionate and determined
Unstoppable power and fierce loyalty
Purpose:
“Continuously at the heart of the attack, the furious storm that never rests.”
Rain Flames
Main Description:
Stillness, pacification and the ability to weaken and dull opposing forces.
It’s attribute is Tranquility:
Can even manifest ice at strong levels
Its users are peaceful and protective
Calm but unstoppable force
Purpose:
“To become a blessed shower that settles conflict and washes everything away.”
Sun Flames
Main Description:
Stimulation, accelerating bodily functions, increasing strength/speed and healing abilities.
It’s attribute is Activation:
Its users are often optimistic, courageous and reliable
Excels at supportive enhancements
Can rapidly heal wounds using cell activation
Can boost users physical abilities for brief periods
Stimulate cell regeneration and muscle function, pushing body beyond normal limits
Purpose:
"Destroying the misfortune that attacks the family with their own body, they become the sun that brightly shines upon an area."
Lightning Flames
Main Description:
Can form offensive cutting strikes and electric shocks.
It’s attribute is Hardening:
Its users are loyal and self-sacrificing
They will absorb pain and hardship for the sake of their comrades
Determined with unwavering morals, will frequently put themselves in harms way
Hardened defense and swift offense
Purpose:
"To draw damage to himself and away from the rest of the family, serving as a lightning rod."
Mist Flames
Main Description:
The power to craft complex illusions that can deceive even the sharpest of adversaries.
It’s attribute is Construction:
Natural illusionists, a select few can produce true, real illusions
But it’s constructions are generally less durable
Direct confrontations are challenging for their users
Its users display cunning and manipulative tendencies, akin to chess masters
They are unpredictable people who like to confuse and control
Purpose:
“Creating something from nothing, and nothing from something; thus bewildering the enemy, to render the Famiglia’s true form intangible with visions of deceit.”
Cloud Flames
Main Description:
Rapid expansion, multiplication and extension of flames or constructs, saturating the battlefield with overwhelming presence.
It’s attribute is Propagation:
Its users often have aloof and independent personalities
They typically answer to no one but themselves
Usually maintaining fierce loyalty and dependability only when the situation demands it
Often operating autonomously, they are unpredictable defenders
Purpose:
“To be the aloof, drifting Cloud that protects the Family from an independent standpoint, and whom nothing can ever bind.”
Night! Wrath! Earth! Snow?
I'll go ahead and explain Night flames briefly since although they're a little more Reborn lore intensive, they will likely make an appearance in my fic. The others are a little too complicated to get into for now, and I know someone out there has a better explanation for you than I could ever provide.
Night flames belong to a very specific person in KHR. He is basically an ancient zombie prison warden out for revenge against the worlds antagonist.
He used to have normal flames, but they became corrupted. The wiki explains it pretty succinctly so I'll paste what they said here:
"The mental state that created the Flame of Night is the last stage of Dying Will, where every cell in a body is ready to die for an objective to defeat someone, engulfing a person in their Dying Will Flame."
These flames aren't well explained but can allow the user to make portals (which may or may not be extremely convenient for my fic lol).
Flames as a Personality Indicator?
It has been debated to death within the KHR fandom as to whether or not your flame type is an indicator of your personality type. This is because some KHR canon characters match their element very well from a personality viewpoint, but characters that are introduced later feel like they're the exact opposite despite having the same flame.
(canon ex. Yamamoto and Squalo or Reborn and Ryohei)
Some tumblr users before me have either posts or parts of posts arguing their case one way or another:
insanescriptist has a post theorizing about flame personality characteristics
thekhrocadvice meanwhile has a part of their OC guide about how flames don't represent a character’s personality
Then There's Canon vs. Fanon...
If you've ever read a KHR fanfic you know what I'm talking about.
In canon, Dying Will flames and their typing are merely a unique battle Shonen power system slash excuse for tournament arc match ups.
In fanon? Might as well be A/B/O 2.0 'cause fanfics treat Sky flame holders like omegas and their elemental guardians like mystical harems of alphas.
Which I mean...
(・_・;) I'm not really going against the grain there in my own fanfic, so honestly who am I to judge?
Box Weapons? What?
Since my story's AU doesn't include this subsection of the power system, I'll go ahead and leave that subject to another random internet nerd to answer if you're curious.
And that's all for now!
For those looking to get into the franchise and have no interest in my fic, I beg of you to read the manga and ignore the anime. It's just a better, more seamless experience in my opinion.
For those coming here specifically because of my fanfic, thank you! I hope I was able to provide some fandom blind friendly context.
And for those that are curious about the fic I've been talking about, I have a little masterlist of links pinned on my blog. Enjoy!
Can't stop thinking about Athe Batfam having KHR flames and what it'd be like.
Bruce is NOT a Sky. Though he's charismatic and driven, it just doesn't...fit right. Instead, I think he'd be a Cloud. Aloof, but dedicated to his sense of Justice.
Dick IS a Sky, though Bruce is not his Guardian. Those positions go to the Titans.
Jason is a Storm. Maybe, idk it fits the best, especially after he comes back, though you could argue that the Lazarus pit infected him and warped his flame type.
Tim is either a Mist, or another Sky. Tim is far too good at lying for him to not be a Mist, but his similar charisma to Dick and Young Justice team could be evidence of another Sky.
Damian is either a Lightning, or another Cloud like his Father.
Cass is a Rain? She's incredibly soothing and perceptive.
Stephanie is another Storm
Duke is a Sun.
I do NOT know enough about the Batfam to be confident in my answers, but from what I know from canon and fanon, these seem accurate. Having Bruce and the others react to the KHR mafia would be pretty funny tho.
(rolls in 300 yrs later with a steaming tea) Late but this is fun
SO- I love the idea of a Flame Active DC verse, and the HORROR of imagining GOTHAM with Flames? That City would be CRAWLING with actives. The will to survive when you have nothing left but that will?? In GOTHAM??
Adding in the idea of Gotham Underworld with Flames and Flame Actives????? Whooooooooooooooo. Gotham would be a world in and of itself, other Flame actives don't come NEAR it. Gothamites Flames would be also weird what with the Curses and everything else. It's an interesting concept as a collective.
SO. Personal collective of Flames to Bats and Birds:
Bruce is 100% a Cloud- A Classic though a lot of people would call him Inverted with his personality. He's not he just TRAINED to control that temper, and his territory of choice would be Gotham, and eventually her vigilante collective. His Cloud nature reflects in enforcing his Rules and standards of how they are to operate and training his birds to survive it, but also his drive to bring the crime in Gotham to heel.
Ironically when I think of Dick, while I CAN argue for Sky, and it would be fitting, my brain actually assigns him to a Stormy Sun! Classic on both cases. All that rage and the way he locks in on his parents' murderer and jumps straight into plotting murder in vengeance. The single minded way he locks in- it talks to me of that obsessive natural of a classic storm. And that drive to burn his target down? Still storm. But at the same time- the classic energetic driven nature of a classic sun. The desire to nurture and take care of their people. To heal and fix the issues of their people.
Now JASON I actually picture as a Stormy Sky with just a HINT of Cloud. Classic across the board- he's more Sky than storm or cloud, and more storm than cloud, but he's picky about his elements. He doesn't actually HAVE any for a long while. He hid the soft nature of his sky, his desire to bring people together, to love and be loved, to thrive at the heart of a family behind his storm. The drive to survive, to do what's needed to keep going. It makes him prickly and makes him lash out, keep himself safe. And when he settles? When he trusts? That's when the Sky in him starts showing- all happy, bubbly magic and the desire to protect his city, his home, the people- thats all Sky.
Worse? He was starting to harmonize with Dick and B- it's part of why B went so off the rails- aside from that was a Cloud's child and all Flame types are deeply protective of children.
The Cloud and Storm in him twines with that Sky possessiveness and pushes him to ACT, to carve out his territory and keep his rules for his territory enforced and God help you if you step on his toes. The Pit hitting all that while he wasn't all there just made his instincts hit survival mode so hard and fast he was kinda feral and lashing out and made it MESSY.
Tim, my beloved, is Sparking Mist. Mostly Mist- a Classic- and an Inverted Lighting. He's all about his chosen family, doing his best to help them thrive. Hiding them, lying, arranging the playing field. He'll manipulate and redirect whatever and whoever he needs to, to stack the deck as he wants. And for the better of his family that includes his family. He will do all that he can to redirect dangers to his chosen, and will stand as shield and foundation when all else is falling apart. When the chips are down, Tim is THERE, and he's 30 steps ahead of everyone else whenever he sets his attention on things.
Damian my darling boy- he's Cloudy for sure- Ironically Inverted in my head, and surprisingly my brain actually assigns Inverted Rain to him with a hint of Mist.
He's possessive, territorial. and so very driven. He takes after his father in that. It also plays into why he clashes with Tim so hard- he considers Robin his (partly due to his mother's stories and demands) and Tim stepped all OVER those instincts. It's also why they took so long to get along- they had to soothe both of their instincts, which the other poked. Now as for torrential downpour of rain- he's a force of nature. When he settles into himself and grows fully, he's going be a FORCE. And he's going to be prickly, but also I absolutely believe he's so very good at soothing and calming other people down in his family. It just takes a while to get past the Prince and Demon's Heir attitude. But once you're HIS? He'll take care of you. He'll just blush about it.
ALFRED is a cloudy Rain in my head. Possessive and soothing, a island, a place of rest for his family- which is what he considers his territory alongside the manor itself. He's Classic Rain, Inverted Cloud. His bustles around his territory and sees it all function as well as he can, while valuing their freedom to choose what they're doing.
Cass is a Sun in my head! Inverted but only just with just a hint of inverted Cloud. She has to GO and she's deeply protective of her people. She's protective of what she sees as her home- Gotham, yes, but mostly the people. She protects Gotham because its her people's home too. It's part of what drives her to read and learn her chosen so well, to keep track of them. She's full of a kind of wanderlust, which is also part of what drives her back and forth between Hong Kong and Gotham too.
Steph...hmm. Definitely a classic Storm. All that drive and obsessive desire to pin her father, and being willing to stand up to a cloud, to the Bat for it? It fits in my head for sure. Also that impulsive desire to do things without QUITE thinking it through fitting in with that drive/obsession.
Duke fits Classic Sun in my head, and also Rain. Focused, driven, a good head on his shoulders. Relatively steady, reliable, supportive. A little wild at the edges and when he locks in he LOCKS IN.
That undying desire of every small fandom fan of their favorite anime became so famous people are putting 'Cloud Flames' in their bio with their Hogwarts Houses and Camp Half-Blood Cabins
I love any fic of Flame Active 'Civilians' (usually a crossover) thats shows their pov of those mafiosi approaching them to kidnap/recruit/'befriend' or seduced/follow them around/beat them up and force them into a Famiglia. And to find more of the Flames and maybe a Sky.
Especially when its Vongola/Cavallone/Varia.
Probally keep them prisoner with promises of family and home, until they break.
Timoteo and Iemitsu has two mods: useful and threat. Tsuna was the last, changed to the former.
khr romantic ships/fanfics are funny to me bc i imagine any of the characters being jealous of people going after their partner but once its their sky being close theyre instantly like 🥺 my baby and our baby.
At the moment I'm having a Toriko and KHR brainrot
And I'm thinking what would Komatsu (who is obviously a sky (and maybe maybe a little cloudy)) would have as guardians
Here is who I think is his guardians (in order of meeting them) :
Toriko - Mist / Probably the first Guardian or just the main / As for why he is a Mist I just think it fits
Coco - Rain / Second Guardian / Being a Rain just fits him
Sunny - Storm / Third Guardian if Rin doesn't take the spot of second Mist first / The hardest to put into a category , idk what his secondary is
Zebra - Could / Fourth Guardian / Typical Cloud behavior until he met a sky whit both a lot of strength to hold him and amazing computability ( who is also an amazing cook)
Brunch - Lightning / Fifth Guardian / Already rocking the electricity and also has both the personality and the smarts
Starjun - Sun / Sixth Guardian / An overzealous Sun who despite having met the world strongest sky (who he is very much compatible with) didn't start to court properly until after he kidnapped Komatsu
Honorable mentions :
Midora - Cloud / Tried to get the position of Second or Third Cloud Guardian / might be one of Komatsu's element's
Rin - Mist / Is the Second Mist Guardian
Melk 2 - Rain / Tried to get the position of Second Rain / One of Komatsu's element's
Setsuno - Mist / Has a connection with Jiro with flames / is also one of Komatsu's element's
Jiro - Lightning and maybe Cloud secondary / Has a flame connection with Setsuno / Probably isn't one of Komatsu's element's but might be
Ichiryu - Could with Sun and/or Sky as secondary / Doesn't have a connection with Komatsu
Ippei - Could / Second Cloud Guardian / got picked up by Komatsu
