Avengers: Infinity’s End
Chapter 37 - The Next Phase (End Credits Scene)
Summary - Eight months later…
Rory Callahan and the Avengers will return.
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Avengers: Infinity’s End
Chapter 37 - The Next Phase (End Credits Scene)
Summary - Eight months later…
Rory Callahan and the Avengers will return.
Avengers: Infinity’s End
Chapter 35 - An Act of Love [AO3 link]
Summary - Rory wakes up (sorta) and learns that while they won the Infinity War, the aftermath is painful. What the universe needs is a jumpstart in the right direction, and love is the only force strong enough to do that.
Avengers: Infinity's End
Chapter 33 - Don't You Dare Die [AO3 link]
Summary - The Avengers are searching the battlefield for Rory, and Scott finds her first. Did he find her in time for her to have a chance?
Avengers: Infinity's End
Chapter 29 - Fully Realized [AO3 link]
Summary - “A scenario is a description of possible events, meaning there is one overall picture with different minuscule events to achieve that singular overall picture. In truth, when the Sorcerer spoke of one winning scenario, he meant there was one ultimate winning vine of reality created by different possible events or branches, varying in tiny ways, but they all led to the same singular winning reality. Thus is the mystery and fascination of destiny.” AKA: Rory is faced with the hardest choice of her life.
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Chapters: 12/12 Fandom: Star Trek: Voyager Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Relationships: Kathryn Janeway/Seven of Nine, Kathryn Janeway/Miral Paris Characters: Kathryn Janeway, Seven of Nine, Miral Paris Summary:
An "Endgame" rewrite. On Stardate 53317 Captain Janeway was abducted by the Kellidians though eventually she was rescued. What if she was brought back to Voyager not so safe and sound? My first truly dark story.
((Oh good question!
I was working on my Endgame rewrite, and I was wondering if I should leave Prof Hulk as is or rework that aspect. I mean, he snapped his fingers the first time because he could handle the gamma radiation and what not, so I was wondering if I changed Prof Hulk back to Bruce/Hulk then how would the first snap work…who would do that part? And then I wondered what you guys thought about Prof Hulk.
And before you ask, yes, Tony lives in my version.😎
But yeah, that’s why. I was working on that and then I fell down a mental rabbit hole chasing this thought.))
I have a question about Endgame: Rewritten, how does Loki remember talking to Thor from the future if in the chapter "Time Heist" made it clear that going back in time only creates alternative timelines? How does Loki have the memories of an alternative version of himself?
(Anon is asking about my Endgame rewrite, which you can find here: @endgamerewrite )
Happy to answer!! It's a bit hand-wave-y, but no more so than anything else in the MCU in my opinion lmao. Essentially, the situation with Loki and Thor is an exception, because of magic.
Thor going back in time is a fixed point that happens in the actual main timeline, and explains the events at the beginning of Infinity War.
It goes like this:
-2023 Thor goes back in time to 2013 Asgard.
-He realizes when speaking to Rocket that maybe, just maybe, Loki said "the sun will shine on us again" because he planned everything that happened in that moment with Thanos, and he faked his death.
THOR I need to go talk to someone. I’ll be right back.
ROCKET We just talked about this–
THOR (still backing away) You said “fix what we can fix,” right? And I think I already fixed something, but if I don’t fix it now, I’ll actually ruin the timeline because then it won’t be fixed in the future. So if I don’t go have this conversation, I might be starting World War III, making this ... very important.
-So, 2023 Thor goes to talk to 2013 Loki. His logic is this: if Loki told him "the sun will shine on us again," maybe Loki faked his death in 2018 because Thor told him in the past. A time loop. So he warns past Loki, just in case.
This is why Thor says this to 2013 Loki:
There will come a time when we and our people will be in danger, facing the worst situation and the most loss of life we have ever encountered. You will know because I will be restrained and powerless to stop it, and it will only be the beginning of the suffering to come. You need to survive. Find a way to survive secretly, and come to my aid later. Do you understand?
-His hope is this warning in 2013 is the reason for 2018 Loki saying "the sun will shine on us again," and maybe it means he survived and can show back up in 2023. It's a complete shot in the dark, and one based on him not yet knowing that the alternate timelines they created will later be erased by Nebula using the stones.
-It shouldn't have worked. The time traveling, and their presence in the past, was erased when Nebula used the stones.
BRUCE BANNER (to Nebula) And remember, focus on both things: send everyone in this room back to 2018, and send everything but the soul stone back where they came from to fix the timelines.
-So, 2013 Loki should have entirely forgotten he was ever visited by a future Thor. That entire thing should have been erased from the flow of the timeline. Except, after Thor talked to him in 2013...
He walks off, and focus remains on Loki’s face. He’s contemplating what just happened. After a moment, Loki rolls up his left sleeve, and with a flame on the edge of a fingertip he draws something on the inside of his wrist. A rune glows, and then fades from view, sinking into his skin.
-2013 Loki used magic to keep the memory, even if later the event was erased, and the event technically never happened.
So, in 2018 when they reunite:
THOR (confused) You remember that? But you shouldn’t. They said it’d be undone.
Loki smirks and rolls up his sleeve, touching his forearm. The rune he drew there glows.
LOKI I’m sure it was undone, but I kept the memory with a simple spell. My future time of death seemed worthy of remembrance.
THOR What? I don’t... I don’t understand.
LOKI Well, if you’d traveled back to tell me not to die, obviously I always planned to die anyway. THOR (frustrated) Did you... Would you have died to spite me? Loki. Loki sighs, rolling his eyes.
LOKI Thor, by trying to tell me to survive... all you really did was tell me when to sacrifice myself. I’ve lived with that knowledge for years. I had to die, so that you would live to make things right.
Thor stares at him.
LOKI (CONT’D) (waving a hand) ...Maybe just take my word for it.
Thor shakes his head and puts a hand to his forehead, thinking.
THOR No, no... you warned me, at the time. I thought at first you faked your death again, but... Maybe this is what you meant.
LOKI Oooh, that was clever of me. How did I warn you?
THOR You said, “The sun will shine on us again.”
Loki grins at Thor, mischievous but sincere, and splays his hands to gesture at the two of them.
LOKI And was I not correct? Indeed it shall.
-So the explanation is this: 2023 Thor went back in time. He spoke to Loki, thinking he would warn Loki in a way where 2018 Loki would fake his death at the hands of Thanos. 2023 Thor later finds out that they're erasing their time heist jaunt entirely, so that conversation didn't matter at all, and he's going to get to see Loki and the Asgardians again in 2018 anyway.
But it turns out... that conversation was remembered. Loki always knew it, in the context of the MCU. And it's why he died in Infinity War: to make sure Thor would "live to make things right."
Thor, by trying to tell me to survive... all you really did was tell me when to sacrifice myself. I’ve lived with that knowledge for years. I had to die, so that you would live to make things right.
Essentially, this entire thing exists to explain Loki's line of "the sun will shine on us again" in canon lmfao. He said it because he knew he'd have to die, he knew that his death would cause Thor to go back in time trying to fix it, and he hoped that Thor's time traveling would work to resolve the problem.
Which is why, when they reunite in 2018, he recognizes 2023 Thor and says... "Oh, hello again. Did it work?"
So here is a helpful diagram:
"1 2 3 4" is color-coded so you know the order to read the arrows in.
I hope this helps! The hand-wave-y part is the magical rune, but otherwise, it's a time loop that should make sense.
Thanks for reading :)
oooooo please go off abt 5 or 17!!
*manic laughter* hahaha why not both??
5. God I feel like this will call down a reasonably sized shitstorm on my head because I am leaving the marvel and entering supernatural territory, and I don't feel like tagging this:
Destiel. The fandom ruined destiel for me. When I got into supernatural years and years ago, destiel was of course the most prominent ship out there (even disregarding the incest ships ew ew ew) so I kinda went with the flow until I reached, like, season 6 and realised that there was no chemistry whatsoever between the characters. It was the opposite for me, in fact, like magnets pushing each other away. And that would have been it, but you couldnt involve yourself in supernatural without having to deal with destiel back then (still the case) and eventually I realised that their insistence that dean and cas belonged together and that the subtext said they loved each other and that dean was bi was just not there. The showrunners had never had any intention to make this pairing even close to canon and never put any hints in their that their friendship could be more. They weren’t even close friends until the later seasons.
And while a medium can always be interpeted in many different ways, fandom went directly against the show's intention. You can never fully discard the author when interpreting a book or a poem but that's what they did. They took these tiniest of scenes, like eye contact, and insisted that it was definite proof that their love exists, even when Cas was just introduced and was still completely apathetic towards dean.
Every destiel reading of the show felt forced. And fandom forced the mindset that no other interpretation was correct. Their insistence became so strong that even the actors and showrunners had to deal with it at cons and on social media, which resulted in that absolute mess of an ending. And everyone who disagreed with their interpretation was a bigot (even the showrunners and actors who said that that hadn’t been their intention, which is the truth and their right to say). I feel like I have to put some disclaimer here that I am not a homophobe, because my distaste for destiel came from their lack of chemistry and the people forcing love, intimacy and sexual images onto these characters that made me feel so fucking uncomfortable, not from their sexuality.
Also, just because the showrunners do not intend to put in any gay subtext doesn't mean it cant or should not be interpreted that way. Hemlock Grove comes to mind, if anyone has seen it (I only watched like half the first season before I got bored) but it was undeniable that the two mcs had an intense kind of chemistry. There were lots of lingering looks, careful maneuvering around each other, even shirtless scenes. Both were supernatural creatures meant to be enemies, so you had the "i am different than the rest and i have to hide it" a.k.a. being in the closet AND the "romeo and juliet" aspect. The showrunners later introduced female love interests for both of them, but it was clear they only did that to turn fandom away from shipping the two mains.
(Good omens is another example where shipping the mains makes sense, even though I never felt the chemistry)
But supernatural was not like that. There was no chemistry and no subtext, deliberately or not, that you could read as attraction. I am not here to tell anyone how to feel about the ship, because that's your business, but my point stands that fandom ruined the ship for me through their almost fanatical pushing of an interpetation I could not wrap my head around the least bit. If you want to ship it, do it, but dont go harassing either the show's crew or other fans over it.
As for a marvel ship, post-CW fandom ruined Stony. Based on the comics, even if it’s only based on the first movie, it had the potential to be good. But then came Civil War and I read some of these stories that basically debased and tortured Steve to make him atone for what he had done to Tony (like...) so that he would then be worthy to have him back and spent the rest of his life worshipping the ground he walked on. And I realised that most Stony fics, even the ones that I used to like, were propping up Tony, while debasing Steve, to get them on the same level. There are notable exceptions, but most fics made Steve either immature/childlike, innocent, naive, or downright stupid to make Tony and his complex character more competent, while Steve remained one-dimensional.
And that really opened my eyes to everything that went on behind these fics and I realised that authors had intentions. And sometimes these intentions were cruel.
17.
Oh god there are so fucking many things I want to change about the movies, it’s unreal. We have talked extensively about everything that went wrong with Spiderman, Civil War, and Tony Stark. Is there anything we haven’t talked about yet?
I think I would snap Steve instead of Bucky. Actually, I would switch around all the snappings, so that most of the original Avengers were dead and finally, the side characters who never had the room to properly develop would have their time to shine. The MCU isn’t supposed to have a main character, right? So why keep pushing Tony and Steve?
Here’s the ones I’d snap: Steve, Tony, Wanda, T’Challa, Thor
The new team would then be: Natasha, Clint, Bruce, Rocket, Groot, Shuri, Carol, Bucky, Sam, Rhodey, Nebula, AND Sharon
(Now you might ask, how come the og team’s heavy hitters are all snapped? Answer: how come none of the og Avengers were snapped in the first place? Very transparent, Marvel)
Under Natasha‘s lead, the heroes would still try to do whatever they could, giving Bucky and Sam the chance to learn teamwork after Sam takes on the shield in Steve’s absence (when Steve comes back, he will decide to retire at least for a while, later, he will come back as Nomad) and because Sam continuously proves himself in these trying times, he earns the respect and instead of taking the shield away, he will be fucking honoured like he should be.
When Scott comes back, he, Bruce and Shuri work out a way to replicate Hank’s technology and instead of doing it in one night, they will take a while to solve it (because come on!). Also, no Professor Hulk and no humiliating Bruce in every scene he has lines in.
Natasha finally develops past the token female of the group role. No more quips about the difference between men and women. Not sure whether Clint’s family still dies, but I simply want to see him in action and displaying all his extraordinary abilities to their full extent, instead of having him take up five minutes of mostly silent screen time. Also, the endgame hairstyle will have to go, no arguments! I’m also not yet sure who the person jumping off the cliff should be, but it should still be between Clint and Nat, I think. If we took the whole movie showing their deep bond, the impact of one of their deaths would be that much more powerful and not tainted by some weird “I should die because I failed” or “I should die because I have to repent” bullshit. Instead, we will have “I’m doing this so I don’t have to watch you die” bullshit. Which is much better.
As hilarious as Ant-Man giving Tony a heart attack was, I’ll replace that by Ant-Man simply shrinking the case during transport. Like, how did they not think of that? I don’t remember if there was a reason and I’m not gonna re-watch that mess, no thank you. Bucky and Sam get the scepter from Steve by having Bucky dramatically rip his mask off in front of him and asking Steve to come find him. Sam takes the case while Steve is having his meltdown.
As for the reality stone, they have to hire the Valkyrie to help them sneak into Asgard and and absolute chaos ensues when she, and older Peter and Rocket try to inconspicuously kidnap Jane. Eventually, Peter’s earnestness makes her consent to having the thing taken from her, though.
In the meantime, Bruce gets the time stone while Sharon and Carol simply walk into the army base like they belong (if that’s even still necessary I don’t remember. let’s just say it is). They discover Peggy’s cooperation with Hydra and tell the rest of the team about it when they come back, eventually also Steve. As already mentioned, Steve (still wearing the beard, hands down his best look) retires after the big battle to finally build a life for himself after having his fantasies of a life in the past with Peggy torn to pieces. He can finally completely move on. With Sharon? I’ll leave that open.
Anything I missed? Any follow up questions or ideas?