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Correct me if I'm wrong, but was not Flash having an abusive father a retcon that happened many years later after his debut? I remember you ask about whatever Flash being a bully was a retcon too, so I wonder if its the same case for his father. Perhaps is the reason why MCU decided to avoid any hint that Flash' father might be abusive.

Okay, this is a little messy, but from my point of view the answer is yes and no, or rather, it’s kind of half a retcon, if that. It’s a retcon that, with a little connecting the dots, we can make not a retcon. A retcon, by technical definition, is a piece of canon that retroactively rewrites the continuity that came before it. “The Alicia Masters that Johnny Storm married was a Skrull all along!” is a retcon, because before that piece of information was introduced, the Alicia Masters that Johnny Storm married was just Alicia Masters, regular human woman. A piece of information that reveals something about a character’s backstory or circumstances that just never came up before but doesn’t actually contradict anything, on the other hand, is not a retcon. 

This... falls in between those two things.

First off, Harrison Thompson is in a total of 13 comic issues altogether. That’s really not a lot -- Flash himself is in 574 comics, according to the Marvel Wiki. Harrison Thompson’s first appearance is in the B story of Amazing Spider-Man #372, titled Punch... Counter-Punch, where Peter and Flash years later revisit their boxing max from Amazing Spider-Man #8, albeit in a much friendlier manner. Now, note that this is several hundred issues after Flash’s introduction to the pages of Spider-Man, during which his father has never been mentioned before in either positive or negative light. The boxing match is just window dressing for the real point of the story, though, which involves Flash encouraging Peter to engage with his parents, Richard and Mary Parker, who had at that point in canon seemingly returned from the dead/the gulag. (“Richard and Mary” were actually robots, but that part doesn’t matter here. I love that I get to write that sentence.) Flash then launches into a recollection of his own father, who he describes as serious, intelligent, uninterested in athletics, and disapproving of Flash’s own interests in sports and his average grades. When Peter asks if Flash made up with his own father, Flash says he died:

Now, we know this is not true -- Harrison Thompson appears in Untold Tales of Spider-Man #19, published in 1997, a good four years after Amazing Spider-Man #372. Untold Tales of Spider-Man is a series from the ‘90s that bulked out the content of Peter’s high school years, considering that he’s only in high school in the original Amazing Spider-Man run for a grand total of 28 issues, and focused on Peter, Betty Brant, and Peter’s high school classmates. It’s a series I mostly find boring, I’ll be entirely honest, although I like some of the Flash, Liz, and Betty content. Untold Tales of Spider-Man #19 is technically the first time Harrison Thompson actually physically appears in a Spider-Man scene, being present in the book instead of in another character’s recollection. 

Harrison Thompson here has been reinvented as a Forest Hills police officer who, in this issue at least, is portrayed as a generally friendly fellow. Literally two months after this was published, Spectacular Spider-Man #-1 was published. Written by J.M. “stories about child abuse” DeMatteis, it begged the following: “how can we add more childhood trauma to the Spider-Man cast?” and “fuck the police.”

This comic, which I believe is the third ever appearance of Harrison Thompson within Marvel comics although I might be missing another Untold Spider-Man bit, keeps Harrison Thompson as a cop, but whereas in Untold Spider-Man he seemed an okay enough guy, Spectacular Spider-Man #-1′s depiction of him is an abusive drunk who emotionally terrorizes his family and beats his son. 

So we’ve got a weird little evolution here from intellectual snob who in his son’s eyes looked down on him for not sharing his more cerebral interests -> seemingly genial neighborhood cop -> violently abusive father. Now the second two don’t actually rule each other out: Harrison Thompson could certainly have put on a good face for the community while abusing his family at home. This is, after all, not uncommon behavior for abusers, who can often keep up a very charming act within their larger communities. (J.M. DeMatteis writes a lot of abusive father stories, and he does it very well.) So it’s really only the first story that’s the problem, continuity-wise. 

The Marvel wiki lists Harrison’s appearance in Amazing Spider-Man #372 as a “false recollection”, which is, I think, an interesting way of putting it. Now I said this was in my opinion half a retcon at best, and I consider it that because of something I noted above: Harrison Thompson never actually physically appears in this issue. Flash talks about him, but the problem with that is a very simple characterization rule: characters lie. Almost every character in a large body of canon, at some point or another, for whatever reason, is going to lie. “False recollection” can mean a lot of things, and “lie to your best friend to encourage him to get close again with his own parents” and “say your dad is dead because you kind of wish he was” are not outside the realm of possibility. I think this would be a very different case if Harrison Thompson had physically appeared as Flash describes him initially on the page, or if the issue had even contained a proper flashback scene instead of Flash speaking over some vague images. But that’s not the case, and when all you have is one character’s words there’s always the chance that their recollections are either untrue or unreliable.

Now, I can make this messier. In Amazing Spider-Man #372, Flash tells Peter his dad died before Flash ever met Peter. This is complicated two ways: first, as established later by Untold Spider-Man #19, Peter had met Flash’s dad, so he would’ve known in ASM #372 that Flash’s dad couldn’t possibly have died before Peter and Flash ever met. (Flash would also have had to be very young, younger than he’s depicted even in ASM #372, for his dad to have died before he and Peter met.) Worse yet, in Webspinners #9, which also takes place when Peter and Flash are still in high school, Peter as Spider-Man witnesses, without Flash’s knowledge, an incident where Flash is being punished and verbally abused by his father. (It’s also implied he witnesses Harrison hitting Flash via sound effect, but that’s not directly on panel.)

Now, I never know what to feel about this Webspinners story, canonicity-wise. For one, I think it’s not the best characterization for Spider-Man to see anyone he knows, whether or not he especially likes them, being abused and to do nothing to halt that abuse, although that would be a much more complicated story that a three-parter about Peter accidentally ending up with three prom dates doesn’t really have room to cover. For another, it gives Peter a very intimate look at Flash’s personal life that would surely recontextualize some things for him, but of course none of that is reflected in the college years because those stories weren’t written with this incident in mind. Peter finding out about Flash’s abusive home life in high school is, for me, the bit that most shoddily fits in here, though we do know that by the time they’re in their late 20s Peter is aware of things:

(Venom (2011) #5)

So if we’re putting it all together, with the assumption that, in order to keep all of the canon here cohesive (a very difficult thing to do with any long-running superhero comic), we’d have to view the ASM #372 story under the light that not only was Flash lying, but he was lying badly, and Peter knew he was lying, and they were just not talking about it. It’s messy, sure, and it’s not perfect, but “one character is lying for an agenda, other character knows and doesn’t confront him over it” isn’t out of the realm of possibility, if I wanted to make that argument.

Ultimately, for me, here’s the thing: Harrison Thompson is present in 13 issues. That’s is such an incredibly small part of a huge body of canon, but 11 of those issues have huge consequences for Flash Thompson. The two issues before DeMatteis introduced Harrison Thompson as a violently abusive man are a recollection that could easily be a lie -- a shoddy one, admittedly, but people tell shoddy lies all the time, so why shouldn’t fictional characters -- and an issue that, while it does not portray him as an abusive father, it doesn’t contradict it, either. Everything after that is relatively consistent in depicting Flash’s father as abusive throughout his childhood. You could consider Spectacular Spider-Man #-1 and subsequent stories are a retcon of Amazing Spider-Man #372, but you could also noodle your way around into making it work within the body of canon as I have done above. It’s really up to how the individual reader here wants to look at it. And even if someone does choose to view it as a retcon, it’s not a big one; it changes almost nothing about the canon that existed beforehand where Flash Thompson isn’t concerned, and there’s nothing in his story up until that point that would explicitly rule out him being an abused child. I will say, between the two stories, “my dad and I never got along because he was too nerdy to understand my athletic passions” is pretty sorry competition for the latter backstory that was created for Flash, which does a lot to inform his past actions as a character, from his high school bully status to his military enlistment which, as the sliding timescale moves the decade the Spidey Fivesome were in college together forward, we can no longer attribute to the draft. It also offers him something in common with many of the other major members of Peter’s supporting cast: like Flash, Mary Jane and Harry were also abused by their fathers. (Who in Marvel comics wasn’t? Peter. Peter Parker was not.) 

All that aside, I doubt that when Spider-Man: Homecoming’s creative team was conceiving their version of Flash Thompson that they chose to omit any mention of his abusive father in homage to Amazing Spider-Man #372′s B story, especially after they reimagined Flash as a nerd himself. “If he were smarter, his father wouldn’t beat him” would become a, uh, troubling implication if anyone involved in the movie were to make that claim. Which they won’t, because I would bet a lot of money that they didn’t think about it that much. This is the film that cut any mention of Uncle Ben’s death because it would be a “downer” -- they weren’t going to introduce an abusive homelife for one of Peter’s classmates. And that’s not even my issue, as much as I appreciate The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)’s oblique reference in the hallway scene where Flash says “it feels better, right?” after Peter slams him against the lockers. Addressing Flash Thompson’s childhood isn’t something that’s going to make or break a Spider-Man adaptation for me, although ideally it’s something I would like to see handled with care and sympathy. My issue is that you have a character who, in the source material, has consistently been depicted as the victim of childhood abuse from 1997 onwards, and instead chose to make that character an affluent nerd and the butt of a joke that, if it had happened to the original Flash Thompson in high school, surely would have had serious consequences for him when Peter steals and wrecks his car. I just found it an uncomfortable, knowing Flash’s comics backstory. (And as someone who’s had their car stolen, I’m not exactly sure how grand theft auto is supposed to be funny.) I’m sure the movie could’ve shoved more sports car time in there some other way. 

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Hardy/Thompson Family Tree *Redux*

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“-- We don’t want to make your father mad.”

Spectacular Spider-Man #-1

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Jessica Thompson: Parallel Closure

Principle

Harrison does not teach Jessica to be gentle. He teaches her to be prepared.

This is not reassurance. It is recognition.

THE VISIT

Jessica comes alone.

No Flash. No buffer.

Harrison’s room is quiet. Machines hum. He looks worse than he did for Flash, but his eyes are sharp when he sees her.

Harrison: “You always did face things head-on.”

Jessica doesn’t smile.

Jessica: “Someone had to.”

She sits.

THE CONFRONTATION

Jessica doesn’t accuse him of being cruel.

She accuses him of being unequal.

Jessica: “You were harder on me. Don’t tell me you weren’t.”

Harrison nods immediately.

Harrison: “I was.”

No denial. No deflection.

That alone unsettles her.

THE REASON (FINALLY SPOKEN)

Harrison stares at the ceiling—not at her.

Harrison: “When a man fails, they ask what went wrong. When a woman fails, they ask what she was thinking.”

Jessica stiffens.

He continues, voice flat, almost instructional.

Harrison: “They’ll remember your worst day longer than they remember your best year.”

She exhales slowly.

Jessica: “So you punished me for something I hadn’t even done yet.”

Harrison turns his head toward her.

Harrison: “I prepared you.”

THE HARD TRUTH

Jessica pushes back.

Jessica: “You never told me I was enough.”

Harrison doesn’t answer right away.

Then:

Harrison: “Because the world won’t care if you are.”

A beat.

Harrison: “But it will watch you fail.”

That hurts—but it rings true.

THE ADMISSION (NOT AN APOLOGY)

This is as close as Harrison gets.

Harrison: “I knew if you fell, it would stick. I knew they wouldn’t let you get back up the way they let your brother.”

Jessica’s voice cracks—not with sadness, but with fury.

Jessica: “So you decided I had to be perfect.”

Harrison nods.

Harrison: “Or unbreakable.”

THE TURNING POINT

Jessica stands to leave.

Jessica: “You could’ve just said you were scared.”

Harrison’s response is immediate.

Harrison: “Fear doesn’t keep you alive.”

She pauses.

He adds, quieter now:

Harrison: “Preparation does.”

That’s when she understands—not agrees, but understands.

THE CLOSURE

At the door, Jessica turns back.

Jessica: “You know I failed, right?”

Harrison looks at her fully now.

Harrison: “I know.”

Her throat tightens.

Jessica: “And I’m still standing.”

A long pause.

Harrison nods once.

Harrison: “That’s why I pushed you harder.”

Not praise. Not warmth.

Recognition.

WHAT JESSICA LEAVES WITH

Jessica does not leave healed.

She leaves clear-eyed.

She understands:

The world will judge her more harshly

Failure will follow her longer

Strength will be questioned instead of admired

But she also understands something else:

Her father never doubted she could survive it.

FINAL PARALLEL TO FLASH

Flash is told:

“You’re a good son.”

Jessica is told—without words:

You were strong enough for a harder truth.

That is Harrison Thompson’s final act as a father.

Not kindness. Not absolution.

Preparation.

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Harrison Thompson: Redemption Without Softening

Principle of the Arc

Harrison does not change his personality. He does not become warm. He does not apologize in the way people want.

His redemption comes from clarity, not comfort.

PHASE I — CONSEQUENCES, NOT REGRET

Harrison grows old the same way he lived:

Alone

Uncompromising

Certain he was right

His body fails him before his certainty does.

He watches Flash from a distance:

Military service

Heroism

Sacrifice

He does not praise him publicly. He does not interfere. But he never looks away.

When Jessica asks if he’s proud, he answers honestly:

“Pride don’t change the outcome. But yeah. I see him.”

That is the closest he gets—until the end.

PHASE II — THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS

Harrison is hospitalized. Terminal.

He does not call Flash. He does not ask forgiveness.

Flash comes anyway.

The room smells like antiseptic and old metal. Harrison looks smaller—but his voice is the same.

“You look tired.”

Flash:

“I learned from the best.”

No hug. No tears.

Just two men sitting with the truth between them.

PHASE III — HARRISON DOESN’T DEFEND HIMSELF

This is the turning point.

Flash finally says what he never did as a kid:

“I needed you to say you cared.”

Harrison doesn’t argue. Doesn’t justify. Doesn’t explain the world.

He stares at the ceiling for a long time.

Then:

“I didn’t know how.”

That’s it. Not an excuse. A fact.

PHASE IV — THE DEATHBED TRUTH

Harrison’s breathing is shallow now. Time is short, and he knows it.

He turns his head toward Flash with effort.

“You remember what I told you about losing?”

Flash nods.

Harrison continues, voice steady but fading:

“You took that lesson and carried it farther than I ever did.”

Flash’s jaw tightens.

Then—the line Harrison has never said, not once in Flash’s life:

“You’re a good son.”

Not “I’m proud.” Not “I love you.”

Good. Son.

In Harrison’s world, that is the highest praise.

Flash breaks—not loudly. Just enough.

Harrison adds, quieter now:

“I didn’t break you. You chose what to become.”

A beat.

“That matters.”

PHASE V — NO APOLOGY, BUT NO DOUBT

Harrison does not say:

“I’m sorry”

“I did my best”

“Forgive me”

Because that would make it about him.

Instead, he gives Flash something he never had:

Certainty.

Flash leans closer.

“I tried.”

Harrison nods once.

“I know.”

That is the end of the conversation.

Harrison Thompson dies without softening— but not without seeing his son clearly.

EPILOGUE — WHAT FLASH CARRIES FORWARD

Flash does not excuse Harrison. He does not rewrite the past.

But he finally understands:

The hardness wasn’t hatred

The silence wasn’t absence

The lesson was never about winning

Later, Flash repeats Harrison’s words—to someone else who’s lost everything:

“You can do everything right and still lose. And that doesn’t make it your fault.”

This time, the lesson is passed on without cruelty.

That is Harrison’s redemption.

Not in who he was— but in what survived him.

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Character Profile: Harrison Thompson

Full Name: Harrison “Harry” Thompson

Age: Late 60s–early 70s

Occupation: Decorated Army veteran; former commanding officer; later works in logistics/security consulting. Retired beat cop

Family:

Son: Eugene “Flash” Thompson

Daughter: Jessica Thompson

Personality Overview

Harrison Thompson is a hard-edged, uncompromising man shaped by war, loss, and a belief that the world does not reward effort—only survival. Like his 616 counterpart, he is emotionally distant, demanding, and often cruel in practice, even when his intentions are not. Drawing inspiration from Cotton Hill, Harrison is blunt, prideful, and deeply stubborn—but beneath the bark is a man haunted by lessons learned the hard way.

He does not speak softly because no one ever spoke softly to him when it mattered.

Core Traits

Severe but principled – Believes discipline is love, even when it hurts

Emotionally inarticulate – Feels deeply but lacks the tools to express it

War-shaped worldview – Accepts loss as an inevitable outcome of life

Proud of endurance, not glory – Survival matters more than winning

Deeply loyal (quietly) – Once you’re “his,” he never stops caring

Backstory & Military Influence

Harrison enlisted young, escaping a future he believed would swallow him whole. Early in his service, during a disastrous mission where everything went according to plan and still failed, his commanding officer told him something that stayed with him forever:

“Sometimes you can do everything right and still lose. That doesn’t make it your fault. It just means you gave it everything you had.”

That lesson became Harrison’s emotional cornerstone—but also his armor. He learned to expect loss, to prepare others for disappointment before it could break them.

Relationship with Flash Thompson

Harrison’s relationship with Flash is strained, painful, and complicated.

He pushed Flash relentlessly:

Demanded excellence

Punished weakness

Withheld praise

But not out of hatred.

In a rare moment of honesty, Harrison tells Flash:

“I know I was hard on you. On you and Jessica. Not because I hated you… but because I knew the world wouldn’t care if you failed.”

Harrison saw Flash’s anger, insecurity, and bravado—and recognized them as survival instincts he himself once used. He believed that if Flash could endure him, he could endure anything.

Teaching Flash About Loss

When Flash faces a defining failure—one he truly prepared for and still lost—Harrison does not scold him.

Instead, he sits beside him, quiet, unembellished.

“You did everything right. That don’t mean you were gonna win. But it means you didn’t quit. And that matters.”

He explains that this lesson was given to him by his own commanding officer when he first enlisted—after a mission where lives were lost despite perfect execution.

“That lesson kept me standing. Not happy. Not proud. Just standing.”

For Flash, this is the first time his father separates worth from outcome.

Relationship with Jessica Thompson

Jessica received the same hardness—perhaps even more so.

Harrison admits he feared for her the most:

The world’s cruelty toward strong women

The way failure sticks longer for them

He never knew how to say that fear without turning it into control.

Strengths

Unbreakable resilience

Clear-eyed realism

Fierce, unspoken loyalty

Moral consistency under pressure

Flaws

Emotionally damaging parenting style

Inability to apologize directly

Confuses preparation with punishment

Struggles to show affection without conflict

Legacy

Harrison Thompson is not meant to be forgiven easily—or fully.

But he is meant to be understood.

He represents a generation that survived by hardening themselves and then tried—clumsily—to pass that armor on. His greatest contribution to Flash’s life isn’t toughness, but a truth learned in war and finally shared in peace:

You can give everything you have, still lose, and still be enough.

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“A Conversation on the Rooftop”

Spider-Man’s Warning

Harrison Thompson was used to the cold. Night shifts, winter patrols, empty streets — he’d faced them all with the same stubborn grit. But tonight, standing alone on the rooftop of his precinct after finishing a late report, he felt something else entirely.

A prickle. The kind you get when you know you’re not alone. He turned. Spider-Man perched on the edge of the rooftop, one knee up, mask turned toward him like an unreadable red-eyed question. “Evening, Officer Thompson.”

Harrison stiffened. “Is there a reason you’re ambushing me at work, Webhead? I’ve got enough on my plate tonight.” Spider-Man hopped down lightly. “Yeah. I figured you might.” Harrison scowled. “Look, if this is about that disturbance call earlier—” “It’s about your son.”

That stopped him cold. Spider-Man didn’t move closer. He didn’t loom or posture. He just stood there, arms crossed, voice quieter than Harrison expected.

“Eugene is a good kid. A tough kid. Kids like that don’t break easy.” A pause. “But they do break.”

Harrison’s jaw worked. “Whatever he told you—”

Spider-Man cut him off with a raised hand. “Flash didn’t tell me anything. He doesn’t have to. You think I’ve never seen a scared kid pretend they’re not scared?”

He tilted his head.

“You’re a police officer. An honest one. Your jacket’s clean, your reputation’s solid, and your arrest record’s impressive. But none of that matters if the people at home can’t say the same about you.”

Harrison’s shoulders tensed, anger flickering behind his eyes. “You came here to insult me?”

“No.” Spider-Man’s voice softened — but only slightly. “I came here to tell you something before someone else has to. Before it reaches your captain. Before it reaches social services. Before it turns into a report you can’t talk your way out of.”

He leaned forward just enough to make the point hit. “You need help.” Harrison opened his mouth — pride, anger, defensiveness all tangling together — but Spider-Man continued firmly.

“Counseling. Family therapy. Something. Anything.” His tone sharpened. “You owe that to your kid. You owe it to yourself. And you owe it to the badge you wear.” The wind picked up, tugging at Spider-Man’s suit, but he didn’t move.

“You took an oath to protect people, Thompson. That starts at home. If you can’t protect your family from your temper, then something’s gone wrong — and pretending otherwise isn’t going to fix it.”

Harrison looked away, jaw tight, hands curled into fists — but not the kind meant for hitting. The kind meant for holding back the things he didn’t want to admit.

Spider-Man straightened.

“I’m not here to punish you. I’m here to warn you. This is your chance to step up and be the man you’re supposed to be. The man your kid still hopes you can be.”

He turned, preparing to leap off the rooftop. Harrison finally spoke, voice low and strained. “…And if I don’t?” Spider-Man paused, looking back over his shoulder. “Then the next time I hear Flash crying in an empty hallway, or see him show up with bruises he can’t explain…” He didn’t raise his voice. He didn’t need to. “I won’t be the one talking to you.”

A long silence stretched. Then Spider-Man added, quieter: “You’re not a villain, Harrison. Don’t become the thing your son needs saving from.” He fired a web-line and swung off into the night. Harrison stayed there a long time, staring at the empty edge of the rooftop, breathing heavier than the cold air could explain.