I think the height thing is a very gendered thing?? Like male ROs and MCs that are really tall are way more popular and female ROs and MCs that are short are way more popular (which can be really alienating if you're a tall woman or short man). Poor nonbinary people are kind of screwed regardless. And honestly even with those asks about ~adorable widdle MC~, it's really infantilizing to short people?? Especially given that short people do tend to be infantilized more and statistically tend to be paid and respected less as adults. Idk, I have a lot of thoughts like this on a sociological level, but there's definitely some gender stereotyping going on and it can feel bad and uncomfortable for short men and tall women.
The dynamic you described in the first part of the ask is the exact reason why I decided in both my IFs to set the height of the character regardless of the RO's gender, so that male and female ROs will have almost identical physical features.
Being infantilized as a short person is a very real issue, I agree wholeheartedly with you on this, anon. And I also agree that gender stereotyping is a real thing in real life and in literature.
Are there any suggestions you'd like to give to make it as comfortable as possible for all party involved?
oh btw I feel slightly betrayed bc everyone's always talking about jjong being tiny and I got excited bc I like short men but he's 174 cm? that's not short in my book???? I was excited for a 165 king 😭 and what do you mean key is 181 cm?? that literally rocked my boat I had to sit down after learning that fact (I only looked up their heights bc key gave me short energy too so you can say I was shocked) - 🌈
Look, Jjong’s tiny, kay??? (I want him to sit on my lap aksdkakdsak). Who knows what’s his real height? XD. What I’ll say from seeing them live is that he’s not THAT short, but it’s more of his whole built, like he is petite and being the shortest in the group doesn’t help.
Also, I can confirm that Key is pretty tall, there is almost no difference between him and Ming??? Like he’s just a little shorter, but yeah, you wouldn’t know just seeing him like that. Key’s meatier so that always plays on the perception of someone’s height. Ming’s legs are very long and he’s very lean so he seems even taller.
How would dewdrop and mountain react to having a rather short s/o (4’11-5’0)?
Wow this is so cute I love the ‘tiny character falls for even tinier character’ trope.
Honestly Dew has never really cared if his s/o was taller or shorter than him, if he had it probably would have been a blow to his ego on multiple occasions given that most people are taller than him. He knows he’s short and he’s ok with that. But oh man whenever he does get the opportunity to be the taller ghoul he can not let it go. If his s/o was shorter than him, even by a little, they should be prepared for an unrelenting onslaught of short jobs. Like he would point out how small they were at every opportunity. If there hadn’t been enough opportunities to poke fun at his s/o’s height, he’d create one. He’s not malicious about it though and it’s all in good fun. If his s/o ever seemed hurt or upset by his jokes, he would of course stop right away and try to make them feel better. One other important distinction here is that while Dew will make fun of his s/o’s height all the live long day, if he senses even a breath of a short joke from anyone else he will go into a full on protective rage. It’s ok for him to make fun of his s/o but absolutely no one else. No one. He means that. If anyone hurts his s/o’s feelings he’ll make sure that person pays for it.
Mountain is a little more chill. He’s always been the tallest ghoul in any room so he probably doesn’t even notice just how small his s/o is until someone else points it out. There would be no short jokes from our gentle giant because he’s so sick of hearing “how’s the weather up there?” That he vowed to never make fun of someone for something beyond their control. He would be very conscious of the fact that his s/o experiences the world differently. He’d be constantly on the lookout for ways that he could make their life easier, offering to let them sit on his shoulders at concerts so they can see better, always remembering to put the things his s/o uses most often on a lower shelf, that kinda thing. He’s really just trying to be sweet and considerate, but sometimes asking your partner if they want a stepladder in the kitchen can come off as condescending. He doesn’t mean for it to sound like that, he just wants to help. The best thing they can do is talk about it with him so that he understands that short people don’t always need help. He loves that his s/o is so little cause it makes them the perfect snuggle buddy. They just fit right against him so nicely. And he loves when people point out their height difference cause he can say things like “I guess we balance each other pretty well.” It’s all very sweet
Dalla regola della L alla preferenza per le donne minute: sono veri i luoghi comuni sugli uomini alti? Ce lo dicono tre atleti della nazionale di pallavolo.
From the L rule to the preference from short women: are they true stereotypes about tall men? Three men from the volley’s national team will tell us.
Who’s really tall or really short knows it: centimeters can make a difference. And about tall men in particular there are a lot of stereotypes not always confirmed.
We talked about it with three “ultimate tall men”, three national athletes: Filippo Lanza, Simone Giannelli and Enrico Cester. All three of them around two meters, all three of them from north-east, that from September 9th will be part of the world championship that will be held in Italy and Bulgaria.
Height is half-beauty
Some researches tell us that the height in a man help him in the relationship field. And in Italian this is also a saying. Giannelli doesn’t really agree: «this is said by someone who wants to find a positive side in being really tall. It depends on what a woman likes». Cester tell us that all his centimeters in some moments were really unconfortable. «My height until middle school was a bit of a problem for me. When I started going out with my friends I felt a bit out of it. Later, it has become a positive thing for me».
Men like short women (and vice-versa)
Also here, the three athletes don’t confirm the stereotypes. For Lanza, height is one of the considered traits into a significant other, also for practical reasons. «It’s important to find a not-too-short significant other, also to not have neck pains» he says laughing. And goes on: «When I was younger I was attracted by short women. Then I was with taller girls and I discovered the positive sides. Now I find more pleasant a relationship with a tall woman ». Giannelli shares the same idea and confesses that his girlfriend i salso quite tall. Cester tells us that he never had a girlfriend taller than 1.80m. «Anyway I’m not really attracted by short women. It would be hard with physical affections: I should squat!».
The L rule
It’s a formula that all of us have heard at least once. Short men, bigger “package” [yeah i’m intending it in the “pervert” way and im having middle school flashbacks for some reasons ugh], tall men, limited sexual resources. The raising of walls, between laughs and embarassment, is immediate. «This rule is absolutely wrong. I can assure you!» Lanza protests. «Then, for heaven’s sake, I’ve never been in a football’s changing room – that are generally shorter – but between us volley players is not true». For Giannelli is even the «biggest rubbish in the world!». And laughing Cester comments: «We are like others. I took a shower everyday with men that were two meters tall and everything was normal. Then there are exceptions, both positive and negative!».
Kind giants
Then in the imaginary there’s this idea of the kind giant: big and tall men in general have a kinder and nature. This is the only stereotype on which the three players are all positive is true. «This is a bit true. I often met them. I’m reminded of Nelli, that plays with us: he’s tall and big, but he’s also the kindest person in the world» Giannelli says. And Cester adds: «Being in contact with really young fans, we become even kinder. Then it also depends on every person’s character ».
Uncoordinated
Moving on the physical side we also encounter the spread idea that tall men have no coordination. While Lanza met a lot of tall guys with problems in coordination, especially in the young teams, Giannelli reminds that «between us that do sport at a professional level it’s difficult to find someone really uncoordinated. Personally I also met people under 1.70m that are without any kind of coordination».
Beside stereotypes, this young men from the national team surely catch your attentions. Check the gallery and decide if for them height is half beauty!
I am 25 years and 4’11”. A waitress tried to give me a children’s menu the other day. Anons you do not know the meaning of short
Naur that’s fucked up. Though my uncles wife is 5’1 which from what I understand is not short in Mexico where she’s from but is short in America so it is all a matter of perspective
I'm a 6' woman, it would be ridiculous if I said everyone smaller was short. Shorter but not short. I am questioning Fundy's height now though because I feel like the gap between Dreamnap was bigger so either Fundy is shorter than he says or Dream actually is taller than he thought
I think Dream really measured himself and was correct. But Fundy is for sure smaller but maybe not shorter
We’ll just have to wait and see. Like I can imagine George’s head coming up to Dream’s mouth it doesn’t seem that off
Speaking of genetics, it’s pretty funny that my grandmother from my biological dad’s side is the one who affected my height and some parts of my build. My mom likes to affectionately say that I have my grandmother’s small hands and short height. Though both my young half siblings are expectedly taller than me :(( Though I made use of it during hide and seek and always manage to scare them hehe
- Celestial anon
i've heard guys get their heights from their maternal grandfathers and girls from their paternal grandmothers but i don't think there is any science backing that lmao
I am really tiny like i'm taller than a lot of my female friends esp the non american ones but my hands with be tinier than theirs my arms shorter etc. BUT i have size 10 feet and that's the same as my 5'11 mother so you can see it's like i was supposed to be taller but it never happened
