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Thoughts that came in a conversation I had with a mutual about the strips The Outbursts of Everett True from the Turn of the Century:
I'm not as familiar with Everett True as I am with Peanuts, Calvin and Hobbes, Mafalda, Beetle Bailey and Hagar the Horrible, but of the couple strips I seen, I'm loving his character.
However though, I got a bit concerned with his marriage with Mrs True, unsure of how much is Kinky Comedy Violence, and how much is Just Get a Divorce Levels of Disfunctional.
Yes, I understand that historical context is always important and in that time period, nobody would believe that a wife could be abusive to the husband, and so the idea of a man being beaten by his wife was considered funny.
But, on an artistic level analisis, I saw other examples of violence used for comedy where it was more like both characters were in on a joke, and using designs and movement so unrealistic and over the top it feels more removed from real life.
In the case of Mrs True and Everett, when the mere idea is just "Haha, women beating their husbands", it relies only on thinking that people will find the idea of it funny, so the building of it has not the same energy of the jokes surrounding Everett beating rude man on the street while presenting a witty remark on how much they were jerks, but instead feels like a real couple where he clearly is sad and in pain after she uses the house instruments to hit him after an unfortunate comment.
Let me give you another example of cartooning from the pasf to comparison: the Censored Eleven.
In the animation comunity, they refer to 11 Warner Brothers cartoons from the 30s and 40s that haven't been show on television since 1968 (when the Turner group owned by Teddy Tunner started buying the catalog) due to the racism in them.
The problem with them is not just that they are racist: is that they rely so much on audiences in the period already believing in the racism, so the idea that "Há Ha Ha, black people are lazy, uninteligent, superstitious, ugly, poor, addicted to gambling and dance like savages to jazz music" is the ONLY joke they have.
There is no creative animation techniques, compeling characters and witty writing to compare it to other strong Warner Brothers, Fleischer, Universal, Metro Goodwyn Mayer and Disney cartoons that (while ocasionally containing short racist scenes) don't rely solely on pre existing racial bias of the time to make their comedy.
As a result the Censored Eleven are not just bad because they are offensive: they are bad because they are weak, lazy and boring compared to contemporaries, lacking artistic quality due to relying on the offense.
In that vein, I feel that Mrs True and Everett's marriage violence, not only because of its closenese to real abuse, feels as weaker joke because:
1. Apparently every other comic strip writer of the period was doing the Wife Beats Husband joke, so its not very unique and compeling;
2. The rest of the strip is already creative and funny with showing quick cartoony violence and witty remarks from Ernest against man in power who actually deserve it, so him being beaten by his wife at home in contrast isn’t really interesting in comparison;
Somewhere here lies my thesis that "Sometimes art holding prejudices and biggotry is not only bad becaude of those prejudices and biggotry, but is also bad in a writing, pacing in a artistic level and when you start to bring this up, it can slowly take its power away".