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What if I just made, like... a ton of open starters?

#I’m kind of in the mood for that rn XD #idk why but...#if we’re mutuals feel free to respond to any of them <333 #ooc

i feel like shit :))

#personal #i hate this #idk why but...#i just wanna drown myself #sigh

i like thinking about the overlaps between the stones’ and the beatles’ inner circles (i believe our friend philip norman likens them to the intermarried and often convoluted european royal houses, i will give him that one as v apt), up to and including john dunbar (husband of mick’s eventual partner marianne and the man who indirectly introduces john to yoko) and there’s robert fraser (paul’s art dealer friend who is there with mick and keith the night of the redlands bust, their own friend as well) and then of course there’s allen klein.

keith tries to get rid of him months before he ever manages to sink his teeth into the beatles, but mick is away at the time, and without both of their co-signing on such a major decision, it’ll never come to light. and when he returns, mick says no, up until shortly before klein manages to get the beatles–and then he is horrified, appalled, because by that point his band has been dealing with the man for years, and he knows all what that entails (paul talks about a convo between them when klein was just sniffing around them, and paul asks mick what he thinks about him–clearly trying to test the waters–and mick is unsurprisingly sort of vague about it. in any case, it doesn’t sound uncharacteristic of paul to consult with the people currently duking it out with klein–perhaps he ought to have talked to keith instead, he would have given him the goods). but when it comes down to it, when john is going ahead with it and has klein brought into the apple offices to talk, mick’s first instinct is to rush out to try and talk him down in sort of a “oh shit, y’all were serious about that” kind of way.

and he freezes up because klein is already there. never one for confrontation, mick leaves instead, but he later calls john up and tries to warn him–you are making the biggest mistake of your life. and john doesn’t listen. he hasn’t listened to many other conflicting opinions about it, including paul’s, so it’s likely mick was only wasting his time in the end…but to me at least, it’s incredibly disheartening to think that he tries to talk his old friend and one of the few people he ever completely deferred to out of it. tried to help. but by then it’s of course too little, too late.

the difference being here that the stones survive klein. perhaps it’s because they all united against him in the end, there was never a threat of him truly coming in between them, whereas the beatles were very torn over it–or should i say, their two leaders were. what if it had been ringo or george who wanted a different manager against the other three? we will never know, and that isn’t really the point. what is is that after years of the two bands being social, friendly, perceived “rivals” by the press but also not opposed to some competition, when it finally comes to a head with one more person that overlaps between them, neither is left unscathed and only one is left standing.

#i thought abt this at work lmao #idk why but...#it was interesting and troubling to me today #the beatles #the rolling stones