#ishvalans

[adhd-cepheus]

Going to start meshing together the little knowledge I have about 2003 with brotherhood for my AU

Like yeah the brothers did meet some Ishvalan kids and had to quite literally hide them behind their backs as the military came by so of course Ed hides stuff from the IPC right under their noses

[harley-rose25]

AOT, FMA, Naruto; Some commentary on morality and perspective.

I've seen some people argue that we only support Eren and Paradis because we've been watching from there perspective and if we started the series from Marley's perspective with Gabi, Falco, etc,, then we would support them. and yes This may be true for some people but I know for a fact it wouldn't be true for me, because I have examples of media where I view the main protagonists as the bad guy even when they are portrayed as the good guys; or the evil shit they did is downplayed.

One very good example from another one of my favorite animes of all time (which i dont think ive ever mentioned on here) Fullmetal alchemist, and fullmetal alchemist brotherhood; we go through the series from the perspective of a nation and primarily the military of that nation that's responsible for committing a genocide against the Ishvalan people. We get to know and like several of the people who were directly involved in the massacre of the Ishvalans. We feel like we know these characters more personally we are shown their humanity, their sense of humor, how they care for each other, they feel like good people to us because of this; but, the reality is that they still chose to commit a genocide of a another group of people, even if they didn't like doing it, and even if they feel bad about it afterwards. They are the bad guys

another example is Konoha, The village hidden in the leaves, from Naruto. which, we also spend most of our time with, and all of our main characters are from Konoha.. Konoha, along with several other hidden villages, used the village hidden in the rain as a battle ground for their wars and left their nation in ruin, also brainwashed a 13 year old into committing genocide against his own people in order to protect the ruling class and the status quo. Yes Itachi would say it was to prevent another war but lets be real here the people in charge had him do that so they could maintain power. also Unlike FMA/FMAB where some of the main characters actually do acknowledge what they did was wrong, and their nation and military as a whole isn't portrayed in the best light, Konoha is portrayed primarily as the good guys. But, to me, they're actually kinda evil.

So yea, no a character or group of character being the protagonist doesn't make me blind to whatever evil shits their doing or whatever evils going on around them. even if you make them super nice and friendly with each other and have great humor or whatever.

Like if we started AOT in Marley and didn't switch to Paradis perspective till season 4 if wouldn't take me long to figure out that Marley is the bad guy. Like, I'd hear about Eldian internment zones and immediately know something aint right, also Marley sending entire families to be turned into titans, Eldians being harassed and assaulted.

Like I'm really sure how I'm supposed to see any of that from their POV and be like yea actually all that wasn't that bad actually, its fine, really they're the victims here, actually.

But seems many people have somehow managed to make Marley the victims in all this, and act like the Eldians really did deserve to be treated like that because their ancestors were very bad.

[bitterblackboricua]

i think the fma fandom should talk a whole lot more about ishvalans if i knew the right words i would do a Post Essay on it but unfortunately i don’t

[qwerty-socks]

ONLY TUCKER GOES TO HELL?!

I was reading on the wiki, to help confirm a half-remembered detail.

So at the end of a manga volume, occasionally there’s a section called “In Memoriam” for the dead characters, and it shows the dead character flying up to heaven. Except for Tucker who goes to hell.

I can’t remember much about the other characters who died in the manga, but really? ONLY TUCKER GOES TO HELL?

Yes, I know, you know, we all know what Tucker did was despicable. He can have hell.

But why does Kimblee get to go to heaven? He wrecked a whole bunch of Ishvalans willingly without remorse, but he still goes to heaven?!?!?!? How does Kimblee, someone who took part in systematic genocide just because he could, get a pass? I cannot think of a single good reason why Kimblee gets to go to heaven while Tucker can’t. Kimblee has an equal if not more of a lack of remorse, and the sheer volume he killed too, compared to Tucker’s 2 people.

Oh, the Ishvalans killed by Kimblee are in heaven too. Heaven is sure going to be... interesting, if they meet....

Edit:

@sixtyfourk Thanks for your answer for at least some sort of explanation! Now that you pointed out the Homunculi also went to heaven, (despite being literal embodiments of sin which heaven usually cannot stand), the fact that only Tucker seems to be depicted as going to hell is even stranger! #JusticeforTucker2k17! nah nvm :P I wonder who is gatekeeping heaven and hell though in the Back-of-FMA-volumes-universe

[locuas642]

Before anyone tries to compare Fullmetal Alchemist asian cast to Ghost in the Shell’s whitewashing

Are you including the Ishvalans and wether or not they will have even a MENTION in the movie into your discourse or do you only give a crap about race when you don’t get to have your white-as-bread movie?

[linktoo]

FMA Week 2015

March 23rd, Day 3: War

((This is my worst pic for fma week by far... I’m really disappointed the way it turned out))

[sons-of-the-desert-fma]

I kept noticing these two in the last opening song. They would make a good story. They could make lots of good stories.

Did I just make a prompt?