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These emotionally unstable white men need to stop having the same fucking name, WHICH FUCKING JASON ARE Y’ALL TALKING ABOUT!!!!

Why am I just now finding out Barbara Gordon had a disabled love interest named Jason Bard, who she was engaged too, then he was discarded only to be brought back in BoP where Barbara ghosted him after she got crippled and she was resentful he couldn’t save her (which doesn’t make any sense, probably to prop dick up as Babs’ one and only) only for the New 52 to bring him back and villainize him despite him not being villainious before???

I am shocked but not surprised DC essentially discarded and demonized a disabled man to make Dickbabs look better.

#dc comics #barbara gordon #dick grayson #anti dickbabs #batman #batfam #batfamily #dickbabs #fuck this ship truly #jason bard #birds of prey

Was skimming through some Dixon era BoP for no particular reason and came across a scene where 3 DIFFERENT MEN (Dick Grayson, Ted Kord and Jason Bard) all show up to Babs' door at almost exactly the same time bc they're all in love with her.

Birds of Prey (1999) #19

Which is, A) really funny on its own and B) actually extremely based from a representational view. Oracle was important as disability rep in comics for a lot of reasons, one of which being that she got mad bitches in her wheelchair. She had too much swag and they had to kill her

#ramblings of a lunatic #dc comics #dc #barbara gordon #dick grayson #ted kord #jason bard #normally I'd feel bad taggijg barely relevant characters but here i think it is feminism actually (/lh)#this is also not counting her Thing with Dinah. but also she's definitely having a thing with dinah (tho idk if at this point)#to me anyway #realizing i need to actually read all of bop from the start to fully understand babs' insane love life #also idk if this comes off as weird? like I'm not trying to imply babs is a cheater/player (i think it would be cool if she was. personally)#i just think it's funny she has all these men pining after her at this point in time #when later comics would try to convince you her peak desirability was as batgirl #like ik jason bard was a pre-crisis love interest for babs (I haven't read any of their relationship tho)#and so was dick. kinda (the age gap was WAYY bigger pre-crisis. like uncomfortably big actually)#so even that is like. 1.5 love interests basically. post crisis? you couldn't count the men lusting after babs on one hang #love that for her. get it girl!#i feel like this post is a sister post to my 'steph should get mad bitches' post. make of that what you will

To: Burins

Salutations, Burins. Prithee, if ye have any thoughts to spare on a Mr. Jason Bard and, associatedly, his romantic relations with any first-generation Batfamily member, spare them to ungrateful me. Also I love you. grosses bises

Anonyme

grüßdi lovely anon on whose identity I shall not speculate,

honestly it has been so long since I read anything about Jason Bard I had to go back to the source because I read the birds of prey issues he was in in a fevered haze on an airplane. I do remember really liking when he was blind because I am always desperate to see two disabled characters talk to each other, and then invariably being pissed off when his blindness got cured. at least they didn't also juice up his bad knee! I think the bulk of his relationship with Barbara happens in pre-crisis backups and so I have not read it.

but I do like him appearing in BoP as this reminder of her past life that she can't have around. for a while he's still carrying a torch for her a la one Mr. Grayson but unlike Dick Jason and Barbara actually dated (they were engaged!) which really dooms any chance they have of getting back together because Jason represents a part of her life that Babs is trying to sever herself from completely. which is really interesting to me from a character standpoint! obviously any acquired disability is a rupture with who you used to be but Babs (especially early on) really wants that rupture to be complete. she leaves her job she breaks up with her fiance (and lies to him about why! when he shows up in BoP he does not know she is in a wheelchair!) and yet she keeps a Batgirl plushie by her computer. fascinating woman. sorry you did ask about Jason Bard and I've made this about Babs again-

BACK to Jason. I do think it's fascinating that she does not tell him about her injury though. like even before his blindness Jason uses a cane! he has also experienced going from peak fitness to not always being able to do it all! but that's a level of vulnerability Babs refuses so she makes him figure it out via hearing that her voice is coming from lower down than usual and then feeling for her wheelchair. on a public street! the guy she was engaged to! it's a pretty cruel thing to do to someone in the name of self-preservation - this whole time presumably he's been thinking she just randomly fell out of love with him?? - and so I do think it's delicious (even if there are massive holes in the plausibility that Jason could not know. Babs' shooting was in the news! also Jason is a private detective and I'm supposed to believe he what, just never looked her up?)

now because I am fascinated by your beautiful mind anon at whose unmasking I can only guess I can play in the space of possibility where Jason and Dick might have some sort of ugly messy Situation during this era! but it would be about Babs. it would be like, competitive proxy sex where Jason derisively calls Dick a pretty boy and probably makes some cracks about his not knowing any kind of hardship so what can he possibly offer Barbara who needs a real man and Dick is like well she rejected you so presumably more than you have to offer. and then feels kind of guilty because Babs has also rejected him for basically the same reasons she rejected Jason. scuffling where Dick is pissed off enough to be a little too good at fighting. we enter the yaoi dimension at this point and they do some makeouts where they're both trying to control the kiss and so it's like, genuinely a really horrible kiss. lot of teeth and not in the fun way. tongues grappling for dominance. sex proceeds similarly but at some point Jason's knee acts up and he has to sit down really suddenly. post nut clarity hits like a Mack truck and they are both deeply depressed but Jason especially because (due to being a private eye) he has the noir temperament. but also he's looking at Dick (who is staring into the abyss of Jason's wallpaper) going what the hell is up with this kid why does he act like he's been to war. and they have a mutual assured destruction pact to never speak of this again.

however I must caveat these thoughts ARE coming from the yaoi dimension and approximately 9 issues of birds of prey it's possible I'm completely wrong on all fronts. I am open to enlightenment and further correspondence.

tschüss,

burins

#asks #dcu #Jason Bard

jason bard is a real one. ur congresswoman girlfriend who 100% doms u is away in washington doing congresswoman stuff and u rush home after solving a crime so that u can tell the framed photo of her all about ur day

#jason bard #barbara gordon #ashoss.txt

It's genuinely weird how people are so upset with Barbara for being jealous of Starfire and Helena when Dick was also jealous of others.

It's also often brought up how Barbara "mocked" Starfire while Dick is out there calling a man Babs was seeing himbo😭🙏

Birds of Prey #54 (1999)

Birds of Prey #15 (1999)

Totally doesn't risk to get in the way of work...😃

Birds of Prey #19 (1999), Batgirl #45 (2016)

Why don't we talk about this, too?

Maybe I've already said it but before being a DickBabs shipper, I'm a fan of both characters. And before being a Barbara fan, I've always been slightly more a Dick Grayson fan. However? I don't have problems admitting he has flaws, they both do, if the problem is not being able to admit your favorite character isn't perfect and can't do anything wrong.

Or is it because, as Starfire and Helena fans, it's not enjoyable? And I mean, I get not being happy with Babs not being very nice and being a lil jealous of them (even though she's now literally friends with both women, her beef with Helena got resolved ages ago, ahem) but then Ted Kord fans should despise Dick Grayson I guess...?

But as always, Barbara is the only bad guy.

Why?

Genuinely why you'll call her out when Dick wasn't any better, in this case?🤔

Kinda personal opinion now and, obviously, people can disagree: I don't think the jealousy (or even insecure) part is so terrible? I mean. Humans emotions are complicated, even if you don't want to have those thoughts, you'll have them anyway. Intrusive thoughts exists don't they😅 And yet, you can't stop them, even if you trust your partner or are trying to be rational about it (and maybe they're simply not trusting the person trying to hit on their partner/person they like, yk...)

Ahem point was: if you're going to call out Barbara for being jealous of Starfire and Helena or "mocking Starfire", at least call out his behavior too? And if you think he was never jealous of Starfire with someone, while I can't remember comic panels, he surely wasn't happy in the Teen Titans (movie? I think it was the movie, yes.) so it's not entirely a thing that exists because of DickBabs🙏

Man goes around calling people himbos or shamelessly trying to hit on Babs while she's seeing someone but Barbara is the main villain..?😭 Like seriously I love that man to death but I'll call him out on his bs.