#john is complex

[monstersqueen]

TAVROS: (wE had a deAl,) JOHN: (quit it!) TAVROS: (why Are you sUcH a liar,) JOHN: (shut up. i'm keeping it.) TAVROS: (thiS is noT cOOl,)

this is amazing i love that those two characters that are generally descried as the more mild and easy to get along with by those who met them

met each other and went NO THIS GUY IS AN ASSHAT AND I DON’T LIKE HIM

JOHN: (i don't even think she's really your girlfriend. i think you made that up!)

actually she pretty much IS she’s just. not acting like it. Because she’s the worst, not all the time, but often, and kinda almost always around tavros (like i have. one or two instances where she was not completely awful)

So yes there are good reasons for john to think they’re not actually together, but tavros did not make it up.

but also!!! he was about to blurt out ‘i can’t believe you two are dating’ to vriska but he thought better of it!! rather than embarrass tavros who he thought had made it up he kept quiet!!

even pissed of john has still some basic decency (well more than basic actually? that’s downright considerate not to expose tavros (who he doesn’t even lik) as someone who pretends vriska is his girlfriend!!!)!!

[homoantagonism]

Caveat to that last post that I didn’t want to derail: I don’t think the timing of John pointing out harrows lobotomy was EVIL, I think he was trying to convince himself that harrow was crazy more than he was trying to convince her. Because the possibility of some random teenager getting into the tomb scared the everliving shit out of him!! It was very logical for him to go into hardcore denial about it (because how could she have possibly done it without his blood?), and him gaslighting her using her fucked up brain as ammunition was his way of trying to bury the seeds of fear and doubt that harrow planted in him about the security of the tomb

[monstersqueen]

JOHN: THAT BASTARD!!! JADE: what? JOHN: THIS IS TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS. JADE: what is it?? JOHN: I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS. JOHN: IT IS THE LAST FUCKING STRAW!!! JOHN: RAAARARRAAUUUAAAAUUAGHGHGGHGGGGHHGH!

Sometimes i should really make use of John’s anger issues.

I mean this:

is kinda something we see him do on the regular

[monstersqueen]

JOHN: ok, i'm sorry. i guess in fairness to you, you have only just begun to climb the steep learning curve of this vexing and hypnotic film. JOHN: but i am no longer bound by its spell, jade.

Wow, John, that’s so DOUCHEY

[marcelock]

john is so John most trmojas' just fall flat to me idk? alas

[monstersqueen]

(the original tag mentioned john. I'd recommend seeing the original.)

(the original post in question)

OH MY GOD JOHN.

NO.

DON’T DO THAT.

I KNOW I’M ALWAYS SAYING YOU HAVE LAYERS AND ARE MORE COMPLEX THAT MOST OF THE FANDOM ALLOWS YOU TO BE AND HAVE BIG, BIG REPRESSION ISSUES BUT.

DON’T.

DON’T DO THAT.

KEEP AWAY FROM THAT KIND OF DUMBASSERY.

EVEN FOR THE SAKE OF A GOOD PRANK.

JUST DON’T.

[monstersqueen]

CG: OR ROSE'S ADULT WOMAN LUSUS. MAYBE A DEAD WOMAN SWEEPS YOUR SENIOR IS MORE YOUR CUP OF SAUCE, SINCE APPARENTLY YOU ARE "NOT A HOMOSEXUAL", WHATEVER THAT EVEN MEANS, NOT EVEN TO SPEAK OF YOUR RACE'S ABSURD QUALMS WITH THE NOTION OF INCEST, WHICH AGAIN, STILL SORT OF WONDERING HOW THAT CAN EVEN BE A THING.

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Is that Karkat shipping JohnRoxy that I see here?  Or juts plain foreshadowing?

EB: er... CG: IS THAT YOUR GAME, EGBERT. HAVE YOU HAD YOUR EYE ON MADAME LALONDE, AND YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A CONVENIENT RESURRECTION OPPORTUNITY TO BUST OUT YOUR MOST PASSIONATE SMOOCHMOTIFS KEPT IN RESERVE? AND IN FRONT OF HER DEAD FEMALE "OFFSPRING" NO LESS! JUST SHAMEFUL.

Roxy's already God Tier though, so I don't see how...

(though the "dead offspring" could be Dave, though not female)

Calling it now: when Dave "inevitably" dies, John will celebrate by distracting Roxy with a kiss. Absolutely. And probably a proposal with the rings.

[monstersqueen]

lobac's last post gave me John feels.

Severe John feels.

Now I'm remembering one of the reason I love him so much, he's just so much more complex than fandom gives him credit for :)