Jui(GOTCHAROCKA) X Asagi (D) X Yo-ka (DIAURA)

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Jui(GOTCHAROCKA) X Asagi (D) X Yo-ka (DIAURA)
GOTCHAROCKA - RAINFALL (lluvia)
Letra japonés kanji/romanji:http://hiphopvomit.blogspot.mx/2016/05/gotcharocka-rainfall.html Traducción japonés-español: Ira vasiliev
Bailando sobre una hortensia y una gota de agua en el meñique mientras te acariciaba me dijiste "En el siguiente intento" Al cerrar el paraguas en el silencioso cielo,te miro Sorprendido porque el paraguas permanece abierto
lo tiré
María siempre... El cielo muestra "¡el arco iris!, ¡el arco iris!" y me divierto no tengo pretensión de fingir siempre que estoy mirando tu sonrisa mi corazón palpita Por primera vez pienso en lo que significa amar
"Estoy a un tiempo de más años a patir de hoy" Mostrando un pastel blanco en la sala poniendole dos grandes velas al igual que los niños*a los veinte, nos divertimos y "gracias por celebrar"
María siempre... "una ruptura" Por qué, por qué en ese momento lo hiciste, dijiste sin palabras al corazón En la lluvia se dispersan los cerezos eres tú, eres tú, quien esta llorando confirmaste con una sonrisa forzada
María siempre... una y otra vez se escapa el tiempo puedes ver las hortensias florecer este año La lluvia de hoy es extrañamente nostálgica Me recuerda el caer de las gotas sobre tu paraguas María siempre...
Imperceptiblemente ir sobre el arco iris ,el arco iris cesó la lluvia
Había recordado el significado del amor
Mañana tú tendrás la misma edad
*hace referencia a los jóvenes que apenas cumplen la mayoría de edad
[Translation] Rock & Read Vol 63 Interview with Jui (GOTCHAROCKA)
Hoping to clear requests as much as possible while I have the free time...though so far all my requests have been rock and read interviews...which are pretty lengthy and text-intensive...^_^;;;A It will take a while before I can get through all of them...but for now here’s one with Jui~ @nika24u
( ) <--- what’s in the interview [ ] <--- my notes
Jui-san, it’s been 3 years since you last interviewed for this magazine in 2012. [Vol 42, see previous post]
(While looking at the previous article) This shoot was taken in front of Shinkiba Studio Coast. It didn’t feel like 3 years
That time, GOTCHAROCKA just started activities so we were doing an interview recalling the disbanding of Vidoll. That is why we did the shoot at the Studio Coast where Vidoll did the disbanding live……3 years after that interview, do people still refer you as “Former Vidoll member Jui”?
Indeed there are, but I am not particularly sensitive to how I’m referred as so I was not really concerned about it. However, when GOTCHAROCKA just started out, I did not like to be referred to as “Formal Vidoll”. When I heard that, I do get annoyed at times, but “the past is the past”, so at least people knew that. Now with GOTCHAROCKA, I can hold my head high while doing activities so maybe it didn’t matter as much to me. Also, even in Vidoll, the things I did back then were things I enjoyed doing
When you hold the identity as “Jui from GOTCHAROCKA” you managed to think of the past as the past?
Yes. I guess I can finally say it like that after all this time. Now, things have settled down, but in the past 3 years, there were full of ups and downs. Including the parting of a band member.
In March 2014, bassist Shingo-san left the band, but I don’t remember hearing much about that. Are you able to talk about it now?
Regards to that, there aren’t any taboos or whatever though. There were other things that he wanted to do, but even until now I feel that if he was intending to quit he shouldn’t have joined in the beginning. Honestly, I don’t hate him as a person, but I also didn’t want him to quit either. That’s why I felt the events leading to him leaving was a little off-the-track. I was a little shocked on that point.
Since the beginning, you had a drummer as a support, after Shingo-san left, your bassist was also a support member, leading to the current 3-man band. It would seem that at this point GOTCHAROCKA seems pretty well-balanced, but how is it actually?
When Shingo left and it was just the three of us, it was indeed a little unsettling. At first, Tsunehito-kun from D played the bass for us, but he is an active band member elsewhere; when I was singing, I would feel a presence behind on my right side. However, in the case of a professional support player, he would try to erase his prominence. In that sense, he was really good at his role, so honestly until I got used to it, it was kind of lonely [without Tsunehito]. However, after a meeting with JUN and Toya, we decided that if getting a new member could destroy the current relationship among the three of us, then it is better for us to stay as a 3-member band. The three of us are completely different types, whether our appearances or character, we have our own roles. I like the current balance of us three, so I don’t think it is necessary to force another person into the band. Of course, if we managed to meet someone good….we will consider it.
For your relationship with JUN-kun and Toya-kun, was the balance right from the initial forming of the band?
Within us three, I am the eldest, so I guess to JUN and Toya, I’m considered as the ‘senpai’. However, I don’t really want to create a senpai-kouhai kind of wall within a band. Having said that, with our roles disseminated, I am in the position where I would gather everyone’s opinions and then advancing the band altogether.
Although there is no official leader in GOTCHAROCKA, you have the consciousness of a leader to push the band forward?
Even though I said I don’t want to create a senpai-kouhai wall, there is the custom of seniority based on length of experience in the industry, and hence unconsciously there might be such a mindset within the band. However, in regards to the “gathering everyone’s opinions and moving forward” part, there was a period of time where that was not possible.
So there was a time where you had a different standpoint?
At first, I thought “I have to listen to other people’s opinions”. When the question of “What to do” comes up, I made sure to give my opinion last. It is not that I am trying to take a step back or compromise myself, but if I say, “This is what I think. I want to do this”, the rest would end up following me. I really disliked hearing “Ah, indeed, you’re right”. When discussing matters, there are times where you are unable to voice your opinions, right? However, it is not just the problem of the person unable to voice his or her opinions, the one who is trying to get opinions is also having trouble. I start thinking this way because this was also a reflecting point when I was in Vidoll…..
What was the reflecting point?
In Vidoll, besides the songs and lyrics, I take charge of various things; gradually I created an environment where I kept pushing my opinions, like “We have to go in this direction”, “We have to write this type of songs” and so on. Because there was also pressure on me, it somehow ended up like that. If the CD don’t sell, it is inevitable to think that it’s because “the lyrics and songs are not good”. However people around me would find it difficult to say that to me. In an environment where we can’t say things like “This part isn’t good” to one another openly, the more I voice my opinion, the more the others are dragged along and it’s only a matter of whether they can keep up with me or not. Even though we are a band, it ended up becoming a band that revolves just around my views. This situation is one of the reasons leading to the disbanding of Vidoll. I mean, even though I have been dragging along the people around me, I cannot bear responsibility for all their lives. In the end, since I used that method for the band, I felt very guilty. I have never mentioned this guilt of mine to the previous band members though……
Even for this magazine, when we were talking about Vidoll’s disbandment last issue, you didn’t mention the guilt you had.
At that time, I couldn’t talk about it even for magazine interviews
That just goes to show how heavy an issue that was for you. Because you had that regret, you currently hold the standpoint of “saying your opinions last”
So going along with that reflection point, I thought about what I am to do in order to not destroy the band. Both JUN and Toya had periods of times where they were down on their luck and faced various troubles, hence they are more of the standpoint, “in times of trouble, let’s share our worries and stay on good terms with one another”
So that is why you have stronger feelings towards setting out on your own and chose to hold activities independently [as a 3-member band].
It’s kind of late rebellious spirit (laughs). However, as a result of following that member pace, I guess the person to put the band in order ended up being me. Our band members all like different things hence it takes a long time to decide on anything. If things continued that way, there will be times where the dates of delivery are delayed. Although I think it is important for artists to be picky on certain things, it is also a necessary skill to learn how to fight against time and be decisive where necessary. Hence recently, I do feel that I have to push my opinions through to a certain extent in some situations. While listening to people’s opinions, instead of spending too much time on empty talk, I thought it’s better to round everything up.
Besides having good communication within the members, in order to move forward in a rational manner, it is necessary to divide the various roles as well.
Since we are getting used to holding activities independently, we have somewhat come to know most of the know-hows. For the sake of the delivery dates as well, I want to avoid that [being independent] being a minus point for the band. However, when we are doing things concurrently with music production, it becomes easy to forget doing the things that have to be done. Everything becomes half-heartedly complete. Recently, I’ve learned to give out directions to people, so I guess things have become more orderly.
I heard that many young band people consult with Jui-san for help. I believe that it is because you have tried various trial-and-errors and established a unique perspective for yourself, that is why you have become a reliable brother to many, however do you think that you have changed from the past?
I guess in being able to get over things?
In regards to what?
Every time I meet a turning point in life, I would say I want to go back to my roots, but come to think of it, that is always very vague. Likely, after many years I would think back and say, “I didn’t really go back to my roots that time either”, but right now I really felt as if I am going back to my roots
In the first place, what does Jui-san consider as your roots?
The feeling of “No matter what I do, always aim for greater heights in terms of music”. When I first started forming band, I’d go even as far as kick people down for that sake. But gradually, that kind of mentality faded out…As you age, your friends around you, your acquaintances and all start settling down and get married and stuff. In the midst of that, I started thinking, “I want to lead a normal life too” while doing band activities. For instance, I wondered if I should sing popular songs that are more fitting of my age. However, a part of me also feels that’s not the right way to do things. Indeed, it is important to do things that suit the age, but if I’m too fixated on that, I become too conventional and that’s not very rockish. It’s fine having fun and making music at the same time, but I thought I would try returning to what I had thought before, and then my thought patterns changed.
While becoming more settled down, you managed to recover some of your previous aggressiveness?
When GOTCHAROCKA first started out, as part of a reflection point during Vidoll’s times, I thought “for the time being I’d have fun doing this”. I also thought, I can just slowly make it more business-oriented. However, even though it is important to have fun, I realized that cannot be all there is to it. I feel that I gotta bring out the more ambitious side of myself, and that’s how I got over things. If I really want to make music and go rock, it’s fine being a ‘bad’ adult. Somehow I managed to get over the fact that it’s fine being an adult detached from society.
What is the turning point that led you to your current viewpoint?
It was probably during last year’s summer tour, when we went around 20 or so locations around the nation, and the mobilization was poor in several places. That time I felt really frustrated and was troubled about it all the way until winter. When we formed that time, rather than getting bothered by the existence of other rival bands, I thought it would be fine that “we just be ourselves”. However, when actually met with reality heads-on, suddenly my motivation went down. I was thinking, “How long can I last in this band”, and also wondering “Is it the time to quit?”. Then I realized, “Aren’t I right at the bottom now?”. While feeling really frustrated at myself for being at the very bottom, I realized that I’ve been at the very bottom since the beginning. I mean, in order to be in a band, I quit high school mid-way.
When you formed a band with your friends from your hometown, you mentioned before that for your tour, you didn’t have money to stay in a hotel so you guys set up a tent and spent the night outside.
Yeah (laughs). Even though I was already at the lowest level back then, why was I hoping to be someone who is not? On that thought, I realized I had drifted off somewhere along the way. In that case, I thought it’s fine to be of the lower level from now on.
GOTCHAROCKA is still on its 3rd year, but with Jui-san’s previous long band experiences, you are able to hold an extensive array of activities. Along the way, your perspectives evolved, and so I think it’s not that bad if your initial feelings have diluted since then.
Of course, even now I am always looking up at the top, and having the intention of reaching out for my dreams. But with the awareness that I am of the lower level, it changed my way of thinking. In simple words, I am just trash (laughs).
I understand that you are not just rotting away but instead trying to kindle a certain fighting spirit within you by reducing your sense of self. But why the self-deprecation to such extent?!
It’s not self-deprecation (laughs). Because other than music, there is nothing else that I can do. At this time I wouldn’t think of going to take some university exam and gain some other useful experiences.
In a good sense, you’re becoming defiant.
Ah, I guess that’s it. Defiance. Finally, that word (laughs)
However, that is also considerably difficult. Considering how as an adult, your way of thinking would have somewhat solidified, it is not that easy to suddenly change your viewpoints.
Indeed, there is also the part about pride.
However, that defiance might be the turning point that break through something. What kind of influence does your current way of thinking affect GOTCHAROCKA?
Until now, I guess we are more on the discreet side. Of course, there are areas where we want to challenge ourselves, that’s why we decided on holding a one-man at Akasaka Blitz (interview held early November). So far that’s how it has been; since I wanted the band to last for a long time, I thought it’d be better to be cautious, but with just that thought, eventually things may fall apart. If I first think of defense, I might not know when to attack. At the end of the day, if I want to last long, it is necessary to go higher. Hence I thought I would narrow my vision instead.
Eh? Instead of widening?
That is also one part about defiance I guess (laughs). I feel it’s fine to go with the position that, if I don’t want to do something, I don’t have to. For instance, in the current music field, fan service plays quite an important role. Of course it is important to do a service to the fans that has been supporting us all this while. But I don’t think it’s a good idea to overdo it. On the contrary, if we focus too much energy on the fan service, it’s more like making light of the fans and also a waste. If I have that much time I might as well spend it on making better songs and practicing more.
I believe there are actually a number of people who feel the same way…However, not many are able to voice it so bluntly. I mean, criticisms can be daunting.
No matter what I am told now I won’t feel afraid at all. That’s why I’m narrowing my perspective (laughs). Of course it is important to do the things needed in order to spread our music, but I think we should discard the consideration of whether something is cool or uncool. Certainly, that way of thinking may not be fitting of the current era, I wish to hold the position that if it’s something I can’t do, I don’t want to force myself to do it. If I don’t do that, I won’t be able to see what the band GOTCHAROCKA stands for, and I would lose sight of myself as a vocalist. Also, through music, I managed to create a point of view for myself, and to have that destroyed is something I would really hate to see happen.
Without fearing misunderstandings and being fussy over words, basically you believe it’s not necessary to curry favor with anyone.
There is that as well, hence recently I haven’t been updating my blog or twitter much. Though, for today’s interview I have been chattering a lot (laughs), I feel that I can just say whatever I really want to say just here (in magazine interviews etc). Sometimes I do tweet random stuff now and then, but if I don’t tweet unnecessary stuff as much, I find that I can focus more on writing lyrics and all. I managed to express better the things I want to say on stage. Somehow, I’m speaking more publicly (laughs).
Originally, maybe that should be the form of a musician. Personally, I also hold the viewpoint that a person doing music should express himself/herself to an audience through their songs or stage performance.
Currently, isn’t it often said that the music industry is a really difficult industry?
CDs are not selling well, music TV shows and music magazines are also less commonly seen. However, is that related to Jui-san’s thinking?
I feel that it’s fine as it is. In the first place, I think it’s strange that music should revolve around money. Of course, as a professional working in the field, it is impossible to go on without some form of returns, but it would be wrong to focus just on that. Even without overdoing things, if you are drawn to something through music, there will be people who feel the same way.
Those are really strong words. After forming a new perspective, it seems that Jui-san has become a more unwavering person.
No, I do waver quite a lot. I get really indecisive when it comes to shopping for clothes. “This is nice” and I would have the register keep it for me, and after looking around in the shop again, I would find something else and go, “This is nice too….” and I would become indecisive. In the end, I ended up not buying anything.
That kind of ‘waver’? I was trying to say that you don’t alter easily the perspectives that reflect you as a person though (laughs). Well then, to change my words, I get the impression you are a really firm person.
Somehow in terms of image, people seems to think of me as being rather sensitive.
Maybe because they felt the sensitivity from Jui-san’s songs and viewpoints, which makes it seem like you are difficult to approach or easily broken?
Though, for myself, I feel I am rather brash to the point of insensitiveness. I hope people will just laugh away at my misfortunes, I also laugh at other people’s stories of misfortune (bitter laugh).
This may be rather imprudent of me to ask seeing the flow of this conversation, but since I thought about it, let me just ask. Next year would be the 10th year since your younger sister passed away.
Ahh, indeed. Time flies. That time, I thought about dying myself. That was the extent of my grief……Every day, once per day, I would simply cry for no reason. I had really heavy emotions then, no matter how many times I sigh, the darkness inside myself can’t seem to leave, But that was during the period where my band at that time (Vidoll) was on the rise.
After your sister passed away, you also did a one-man live at Shibuya Public Hall.
I would listen to “Sister” that I sang that time. During my sister’s birthday and all, I would wonder, “What kind of song was that”. Of course, I do remember what the song actually is (laughs).
Even though that was a song written and sung by you, with the passing of time, you might have different feelings towards the song in different time periods. Do you not sing the song anymore?
Hmmm…..Since this was a special song to me, there are times I feel like singing it. But won’t it be weird to suddenly sing this song in the middle of GOTCHAROCKA’s one-man live? In any case, it would be better to sing this in a setting that won’t make things too solemn. It would be good in a casual occasion and be able to do that comfortably. But things will probably end up different when it really comes to it. Every time I think about my sister, time for me seems to stop…but little by little, the grief is fading away.
The fundamental sense of loss and grief doesn’t change but with the passing of time, a different kind of emotion may arise with respect to the loss. Hence if there was a chance where you sing ‘Sister’, I think it is natural that it becomes something different.
Of course I didn’t forget about it, but indeed compared to 10 years ago, recently I can say that I haven’t been as depressed as before. Now I can say “at that time, it was like that”, and be able to speak of her name in conversations. In the past, when I started talking about my sister, I would think “crap, I mentioned her” and feel all guilty about it. Ah, but what I feel irritated about sometimes is when the other party tries to pay attention to your feelings. When a person I haven’t met for a while asks, “How’s your sister doing?”, I would wonder, what is he/she trying to say.
Also, when you are talking to someone for the first time, when asked “do you have siblings”, do you get troubled over how to answer the question?
Indeed, I do. I wonder if it’s alright for me to say I’m an only child. I mean, if I say, “I had one…” the other party would feel bad as well. Since I still don’t know a good way to answer that, if the conversation seems to turn towards siblings, I’ll try to change topics. However, if I try to turn the conversation away from siblings talk, people will think, “Something probably happened to this guy?”, making me seem like a strange person (laughs). I think this kind of complicated matter will stick to me for life.
Earlier, I said Jui-san is a firm person…After losing your sister, did it change your life-death perspective or view of life?
What changed, was coming to think “I can’t die”. Sometimes, when things were tough, I do suddenly think about dying and whats not. Since my younger sister died before me, I would think, maybe I’m not alive anymore. Hence…..though it’s a weird way to put it, I feel that I’m still alive because of my sister. As expected, I would think about my parents. After 10 years, my parents are living life per normal but if even I left, what is going to happen of them. Once I think about that, I felt that I definitely can’t die.
Strengthening the firm core that was originally within yourself and having managed to reaffirm your initial resolutions as an artist, it can be said that Jui-san now has an enormous weapon at your disposal. I am sure with a persistent spirit and aggressive will, rock shall always persevere.
I have learnt to follow the path I believe in without getting swayed by other factors. At the end of the day, I am I, GOTCHAROCKA is GOTCHAROCKA. With a new perspective, right now I intend to once again aim for the top, starting from the very bottom.



