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#VeganAnswers: Plants Feel Pain (Sub Part)

In this post, I argued against “plants feel pain”. Even though I had proved my point clearly, there is still another comeback left for the opponent; especially in my region. “Sir. Jagadish Chandra Bose proved that “plants feel pain”.” With no doubt, he was one of the greatest scientists of that era and I am proud of his contributions. He DID some groundbreaking discoveries in the biophysics and I…

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#VeganAnswers: Plants Feel Pain

In a world, where people are getting “smarter” to ask vegans better questions, here’s the No.1 argument ever have been thrown at a vegan. “PLANTS FEEL PAIN.” After being savagely defeated with the “Protein Argument” it’s the most favorite option to bid on. Let’s ruin it. What is a pain? To clarify the goal we need to make sure exactly what it is. Pain is mainly mental or physical suffering of a…

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Veganism: The Theory of Killing Plants

What kind of messed up, brainwashed society are we living in where exploitation and killing are considered “normal” and compassion and non-violence are considered “extreme”? Non-vegans who try to offend vegans often say that we also kill plants to survive. They want us to accept that veganism does not portray non-violence. That’s why they throw the universally confused phrase: Plants have…

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I don’t get “pissed off” by vegetarianism but I do think it is very hypocritical to assume one animal is more worthy than another. I read a post about this last night, about a guy who went from vegetarian and vegan I think to mostly “begging for scraps” to ethically using animal meat, and he points this out too. The number (#, not weight in bodies) of lives lost in agricultural farming for vegetarian food is astronomical. Hunter gatherers were much much easier on the total population of animals killed since they didn’t kill many earth worms and field mice tilling soil to plant crops…they fed off what they could gather (free growing berries and nuts a lot) and killed animals that had “happily” (freely) roamed the earth until their demise. It just makes waaaaay more sense to me, personally, to not get hung up over individual animal deaths, but to look at how the animals are treated when they’re alive (free range even if they die at human hands versus maybe a completely free chicken being slaughtered by a wolf in nature), and also to accept and realize that farming for veggies does cost a LOT of animals their lives, just not the “cute ones” that a lot of people seem to think are the “more important ones to save”: ie cow lamb chicken rabbit etc.

If you put it another way: if I’m a hunter-gatherer (which I’m not but I can wish)…and each year I eat as many nuts and berries and whatever as I can, and kill two large animals to live off…that’s theoretically “two souls” I have killed. If I am a vegetarian and do agricultural farming, I can not even begin to count the number of times my equipment has killed animals (mostly below the ground). What if every minute I am out there moving about soil, I’ll kill 1000 animals, both ones I could see with the naked eye as well as microscopic ones that are, nevertheless, “animal” by biological definition. Should those 1000 animals weigh on my conscience less, somehow because I can’t see their blood? If every being has a soul???

Also: do plants have a soul? It’s possible they don’t or they do…but one thing for sure is that science has determined that at one level they “feel” themselves being munched on: it’s why they sometimes make toxins to poison whoever eats them. Fascinating stuff…

This kinda thing really REALLY makes me think…hard.

It all comes down to basically what’s important to YOU I think. If your religion is, fine. If my logic is, that should be ok too. I don’t get angry at vegetarians and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. I don’t like feeling that people judge me harshly for eating meat though…I don’t think a lot of people put a lot of thought into it. Basically no person OR animal on this earth can survive without killing other animals. It just doesn’t work that way. Therefore I don’t see it as a “sin” to do so. Consciously. It’s also why I actually respect the idea that some religions would ask that a person “ceremonially” give thanks for an animal.

We also all get eaten one day no matter how we die. ;)

Ps: the hunter gatherer also probably eats a few microscopic or small bugs/animals such as a mite hidden in a raspberry or something occasionally. So maybe more than 2 souls per year. ;) but maybe not as many as tilling the soil kills… ;)

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