#kiunlo

[swampgallows]

can i petition for lor'themar's "cunt" to be added to the yamyell discord server soundboard just like how garrosh's "bitch" is on there? or is there only 1 sound allowed

DLKFJASDFKLASJFASKFDJJK YES I WILL ADD IT LMAOOO

[katarascape]

i would like to know about your wips 👁️👁️

hi hi hello thank you! So I've had 3 people ask and I've got 3 main wips atm so 1 each :)

Ok so this one has probably had the most work put into it, and draws inspiration from how much i hate a very popular ya fantasy author and her works, also it's built on the classic fairytale quest structure.

Three human sisters live with their ailing father until the youngest kills a sacred animal by mistake. The cursed prince the animal belongs to steals away the youngest sister, a life for a life.

As much as the two older sisters butt heads with the younger, they still love her. So they set out on a quest to save their sister before midsummer, when the cursed prince will enact his mysterious plan.

Essentially i wanted to take a lot of common romantasy tropes and turn them inside out. So there's no romance plot, each sister gets a full arc and learns to appreciate her sisters etc etc

But yeah! I'm really really keen on this one, it's my favourite, and I hope to get it published officially some time in the next...30 years lmao

[swampgallows]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YIPPEEEEE3EE YAYYY AWESOME WAHHOOOO

yay thank you :>

[swampgallows]

i can kinda smell ants! but only when they die. idk how common that is. but i know the ant smell very well

YES it's very pungent when they die. i havent seen any ants for a while but i definitely can smell them.

[lokaror]

bear time 🐻🐻🐻

BEAR TIME!

[swampgallows]

hearts and love and smiles and happiness YAYY peace and love on pleanet earth you are my friend and you make me happy :3333

:') thank you

[swampgallows]

i didn't talk about this dream in yamyell because i forgor, but i had a dream like a few months ago where garrosh got redeemed a bit. he came back from the dead because he was needed to defend azeroth, and i guess he was just in revendreth paying for his sins and like actually trying to become a better person or something. when he came back to azeroth, he started writing a poem to baine, which laid out the fact that he had indeed learned to be a better person, and he hoped that baine would like the poem.

I also had to do a quest for him in which i killed a bunch of animals for meat and stuff and made him dinner. i remember the text quest saying “oh, you nourish me in my own camp with this feast? how honourable!” if i remember correctly the feast was of cooked strider eggs and also strider meat. i hope you liked this :]

OUGHGOUHGH I LOVE THIS im so glad you got to visit him in your dreams and made him brekky.................... thank you so much for sharing this with me

[swampgallows]

so i was reading both of your posts on the orcish language in wow cuz you posted them both in the yamyell discord (hehe) and it made me think about thrall and his upbringing as an orc raised by humans, and how he might have struggled with speaking common. obviously thrall would still have the same limitations as other orcs with his jaw shape/position being different to humans and his tusks being in the way, making consonants like m, p, b and maybe even v really hard to make…but i'm also thinking maybe because common was the first language he learned to speak, he may have been able to adapt/learn faster cuz he was given no other choice and was sort've forced to adapt to the language in other ways? what do you think? :]

orc language posts are here (pronunciation) and here (Orcish linguistics).

I think so too! Since it was his native tongue I think he probably managed to work around it. If anything, maybe his actual physiology changed a bit as he grew to accommodate it since he was using certain muscles to speak that he otherwise wouldn't have. i don't have any actual linguist knowledge aside from a couple of things ive read in the past but that seems to be the case with certain languages. for instance, a lot of people can't roll their Rs or whistle or things like that, but chances are if their language required that to speak it properly, they'd be able to do it (barring physical conditions). or like this great tumblr story of a Deaf woman who speaks with a brooklyn accent because she learned by watching mouth movements, so the physical positioning of her mouth and lips affected how she pronounced the words. or how even in short instances of isolation, new accents can develop due to environmental and biological factors, as it did for astronauts on the moon or members of an antarctic expedition. chances are that thrall has a very specific kind of common accent, and i wouldn't be surprised if orcs among his original horde developed this kind of accent alongside him due both to their facial structure and learning from thrall's example.

@shamanofthewilds also makes a great point about how most of azeroth probably speaks "common" anyway, and that both different human kingdoms and orc clans probably have their own languages but were speaking "common" as early as the second war. @mrpinchy also has a great post about azerothian sign language here, and how different digits and worlds affected common sign.

it's hard to say how canon this is because blizzard characterizations rarely maintain any consistency, but thrall's smaller tusks and more upright posture could be due to human influence affecting his physical development. in comparison, wod!grom's tusks are almost as tall as his nose. i tried to get a similar angle to show that even though their heads are tilted upward, grom's tusks are significantly longer.

head on, compare thrall's tusks (center) also to grom (left) or saurfang (right), orcs born and raised on draenor (au and mu). thrall's tusks are much more prominent in his in-game model, but since the hi res cinematics are all custom, giving thrall smaller tusks here seems a more deliberate choice. (also i arranged the images like this so that you can click them and it's not just three orcs staring you down while youre scrolling lmfao).

there could also be an age factor involved since saurfang and grom are older orcs, but i'd wager that thrall now is about as old as wod!grom is/was during warlords. there also isn't a lot of lore on whether or not orcs alter their tusks (e.g. shave them down hellboy style) save for accessories or piercing, but in that case it could be a cosmetic choice thrall makes too especially for diplomacy's sake.

anyway yeah i think you're right! i like to believe thrall's upbringing affected not only his linguistic but physiological development from being raised by and around humans speaking common.