Lila: *opens her mouth to speak*
Me: Oh great, another lie...
Lila: *drops some facts the entire ML fandom needs to hear*
Me:
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Lila: *opens her mouth to speak*
Me: Oh great, another lie...
Lila: *drops some facts the entire ML fandom needs to hear*
Me:
Chloe Bourgeouis's Pride and Her Ultimate Downfall
Chloe, while not being a character I particularly like, is a character that I have a deep love for. What I mean by this is that the person who she is is not someone who is a good person in any sense of the word but on the other hand I care very deeply about her and am very invested in her character. I think one of the most interesting parts of her character arc is just how easily it would have been for her to be redeemed. What I mean by this is that we know Chloe, although she might have been at some point, is not interested in growing as a person and becoming a better person. However, had she made a few decisions differently by season five the Chloe we have could have been a completely different character. If she had decided to swallow her pride and actually reflect on the things she was hearing from both Adrien and Ladybug she could have become a better person. The problem lies in that she was both too stubborn and unwilling to listen to either of them that she ended up going a completely different route. In doing so she had made her own bed and now we’re seeing her lie in it. She lost both of the people that no matter how much of a twisted version of friendships she had with them were still people she considered friends. If she had just stopped being so prideful and actually did some self reflection it is entirely likely that she wouldn’t have lost either Adrien or Sabrina in season five. However, she couldn’t let go of her pride and that caused her to lose both of them. The thing is she was so close yet so far from doing just that in season two and three but she wouldn’t and that was her downfall. I think another thing that is just so exponentially tragic about her character arc is that in wanting her mother’s validation she became just like her. She was so desperate to please her that she became the very person she feared. In a sense I would even add this to my list of reasons why Chloe is Adrien’s foil. Because while Chloe became like Audrey Adrien managed to despite still seeking Gabriel’s validation not become like him at all. And there are people who will say that this is because Adrien had people who were there for him and I completely disagree with that statement. Because Chloe could have had that but she refused it. I’ve been wondering for so long why seasons 1-3 Chloe and seasons 4 and 5 Chloe seemed so different; because while she was never a good person she clearly had a conscious and I wanted to know what happened to that because I have always been interested in the psychology behind character’s actions and this morning I realized why this happened. It’s because she was so stubborn and prideful that she started pushing away people who were trying to help her become better. Adrien and Ladybug were good influences in her life and while I’ve seen so many people place the blame on the two of them Chloe is the one who took them for granted and distanced herself from them. So of course when she distanced herself from the two best influences in her life and refused their help she plunged into the deep end and became the worst version of herself.
time for some ML sugar
Chat noir is an incredibly competent hero in his own right.
Ladybug is doing worlds better than the order of guardians
Alya is a great support and confidant for Marinette
Kagami is a good friend and is doing her best to help out Marinette with her feelings
Luka is a good brother to Juleka and he does a good job being a friend to Marinette and Adrien
Zoe is a phenomenal actor and she has a great bee costume
Nino deeply cares about his buddy adrien and his whole anger towards Chat noir was solely jealousy and worry
Marinette is immensely creative and she is incredibly good at planning
Marinette is allowed to get carried away with her emotions
Adrien is valid in feeling like he is replaceable
They are all kids and allowed to make mistakes and not see everyone's perspective
Marinette: [does everything perfectly]
Salters: Mary Sue! She never faces any problems! This is unrealistic!
Marinette: [makes a mistake]
Salters: Stalker! Criminal! Terrible protagonist! She should be in jail!
I’m freaking tired of people keep saying that Marinette doesn’t have any personality outside of “stalking/obsessing over Adrien”.
First of all, Marinette is NOT a stalker. That shit needs to die right now. Sure, I can understand why it may seem a little weird, but a stalker is a person who harasses or persecutes someone with unwanted and obsessive attention. This is a pattern of unwanted behavior, directed at a specific person, which causes that person to change their routine or feel afraid, nervous or in danger.
Marinette doesn’t passes Adrien’s boundaries. She doesn’t make him feel creeped out or unsafe. If she did, Adrien knows, and she still continues to pressure him, THEN that’s being a stalker. She has shown before that she has everyone’s schedules and I just believe that her “obsession with Adrien” is nothing more than a teenage girl fawning over her crush. And also, the posters of Adrien on her wall? He’s a model! What teenage girl doesn’t have pictures of their favourite models, idols, boy bands, and stars?
And finally second, Marinette’s a sweet, kind, nice and strong person who is always willing to help others. Sure she messes up, but who doesn’t in this show? She’s literally 14 years old (13 at the start of the series). And at least she always makes an effort to apologize to whoever she has hurt. Sure she’s a little “bitchy” to Chat Noir, but people act like that Chat Noir’s prefect when he messes up too just as much as Ladybug does.
I’m not saying those things aren’t wrong and should be excused, but people act like that she’s the only one who has done them. In fact, it seems like Marinette is often blame for things that’s out of her control. We have people who constantly wishes for Chloe of all people to be the protagonist of MLB just because she has a bad background, despite her being a spoiled entitled rich girl who’s also an bully, but the minute Marinette messes up, then she’s a bad protagonist???
People have the right to dislike characters, but if your going to dislike someone, do it for the right reasons and not because you fail to see the subtext and context of the situations. Marinette’s a flawed protagonist, not a terrible one. And if she really is a bad or/and badly written protagonist, then blame that on Thomas and the writers, not her.
This broke me because
Because the only person this left consequences on is HER
And she doesn't focus on her trauma here she's talking about the miraculous and people of Paris as if people of Paris suffered nearly as badly as she did or suffered at all
And then when she realized it's not her fault and never was and he's the bad guy in this story she found peace and didn't let her anger get the best of her unlike Argos who did and she let him make the choice if he is going to be a bigger person or not
And then she was the bigger person here because she accepted the reality as it is but he didn't. You can't say "it's easier for her because unlike him she's not a sentimonster", no, she suffered big time she got hurt by him a lot and she was still able to make the right choice and show who the hero and who the villain is. She's everything, I love this girl.
The thing I love the most about Marinette's diary trap is that she could've made a regular safe with a lock out of some unbreakable material like metal but she made a cute purse that freakin traps you like a bear trap and you can't get your hand out of it until she brings the key so EVERYONE will know you went through her stuff and tried to read her diary because that thing will be on your hand until she decides to set you free. Clever AND shady 👌
Fr how do y'all hate Marinette I'm watching this show and this kid is everything to me I would kill for her I love her more and more with every episode I watch