#lonelywolf1754

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lonelywolf1754 replied to your photo “Should really check my replies more often. These two were in response...”

I don’t think she, from all the people, can force Sasuke to do anything, much less have a relationship/ marry her if he really doesn’t want to. This whole guilt tripping is just your interpretation. I really appreciated your blog but wtf you just sound like ns stans who are butthurt their precious ship didn’t happen. Sasuke answered yes with his own mouth when Sarada asked him if he’s feelings are trully connected to Skura’s. Do you think he was lying or something? Sasuke?

Lol there it is again. You’re operating under the belief Sasuke is too strong to be manipulated. Obito manipulated him. Naruto manipulated him. So did Itachi, and Orochimaru to an extent. Sasuke was made to feel guilty for Sakura’s feelings, it’s really not a stretch to believe Sakura manipulated him too when he’s left vulnerable and guilty after the war, and especially  since she’s resolved to never give up, no matter how many times he says no to her.

“ wtf you just sound like ns stans who are butthurt their precious ship didn’t happen. “

I don’t know if you mean SNS or Naruto/Sakura, but honestly, you’re completely off the mark. I hate both of those ships with a passion, no one can get me to like them. Naruto is just as bad/if not more for Sasuke, and Sakura spends all her time belittling Naruto and hitting him. Neither of those relationships are desirable. 

Sasuke has never said word for word he’s in love with her. There is 0 material for Sasuke’s point of view about Sakura. And there never will be. Sasuke admitted his feelings were connected solely because of Sarada. He has a reason to stay with her because he has a child with her. Nothing more, nothing less. He clearly doesn’t even want to come home even then-- and even when he is in the vicinity, he camps outside, despite the fact Sakura has an apartment he could come home to.

You made a mistake in liking this blog if you’re going to come here to defend Sasu/Saku. Nothing in canon has ever proven that Sasuke is legitimately in love with Sakura. She’s terrible for him, and it shows within the canon material. 

You don’t actually get Sasuke if you think he’s too strong to be manipulated. It’s a nice thought, but wrong. It would be nice if he was, but women are capable of being manipulators and we’re told flat out in the text Sakura is not willing to give up until he tells her yes.

Sasuke was manipulated into marriage and a child. He’s not a good Father, because he didn’t get the time and help required until he was actually ready to have children. 

[madara-fate]

There's an argument between SS fans about when Sasuke actually started loving Sakura romantically. Some of them say that he was in love with her by chapter 699 and they claim that Sakura saying in gaiden that the forehead poke was "better than a kiss" means that it was a romantic gesture from Sasuke's part in chapter 699, thus meaning that he loved her then (romantically). Some of them disagree (me also). I know we had some arguments but most of the times I agree with you. So what do you think?

I certainly don’t think Sasuke was in love with Sakura by 699. I think by that point his feelings towards her were deepening, and she was far more than a normal friend/comrade. She was someone special to him, so he gave her his ultimate expression of affection to signify that.

I think that he had feelings for her, which had developed during the period between the end of his fight with Naruto, and his departure for his journey of redemption, but he hadn’t properly fallen in love with her at that point.

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lonelywolf1754 ha risposto al tuo post “>why are people mad that a significant character isn't acknowledged in...”

Gaiden wasn't about Sasuke, it was about Sarada.

...and? Who’s she, the greengrocer’s daughter? 

Cause as far as I know it was about Sarada and her parents, which happen to be Sasuke and Sakura. But it was about Sasuke in particularly, since he’s the one who owed Sarada some explanation. 

[sasukeuchihadefensesquad]

lonelywolf1754 replied to your post “lonelywolf1754 replied to your photo “Should really check my replies...”

Dude, I don’t think Sasuke can be manipulated when he is in his right minds. Much less by someone like her. Sasuke didn’t say “Our feelings are connected because of you” he literally said otherwise “That her existence is proof that their feelings are connected”. Sarada asked him: “Your feelings are truly connected to mom’s” and he said “Yeah”. And then she asked him “How can you be so sure”. He then replied: “Because you exists”. She did NOT ask why are your feelings connected. If she asked that

“Dude, I don’t think Sasuke can be manipulated when he is in his right minds. “

Sasuke hasn’t been in his right mind since the massacre.

Are you simply selectively ignoring the parts where Sasuke already feels guilty for Sakura’s feelings? I’ve said that about four times now. He hasn’t been mentally sound since he was a small child, stop mistaking him for having a strong sense of autonomy. Naruto beat that out of him. 

Also you destroyed your own argument. 

“ Because you exists “ That’s it, their feelings are connected purely because she exists. Without Sarada he would have no reason to continue  being with Sakura. 

They continue to be married simply because she exists. 

I’m not a fan of continuously repeating myself. You can simply unfollow if you disagree, if you continue to try to argue things I’ve already debunked, you will be simply  blocked. 

[sasukeuchihadefensesquad]

Should really check my replies more often. These two were in response to this post. 

@lonelywolf1754 You assume Sasuke still has things like complete autonomy. You assume he is completely immune to Sakura guilt tripping him and getting things out of him, and were this pre 4th war, sure, Sakura could get away with very little. But this is not. Sasuke has been made to feel guilty and responsible for her feelings (apologizing in 698-99) and other people are only enabling Sakura to chase after him. The entire “lesson” she learns in her own novel is to be impatient and chase after him. In Sasuke’s novel she sets this to mind. She will have him, even if he says no. This renders your argument invalid.

Sasuke is not impenetrable. He’s still a human, and a damaged one at that. People are still capable of manipulating him. Combine the guilt he is made to feel about Sakura and how her feelings have not stagnated (they are even stronger and more determined now), and Sakura refusing to give up in the face of Sasuke flatly telling her no, and you have Sakura winning out and getting Sasuke to marry her, even if he isn’t deeply in love.

Also, stop assuming every single marriage is based on ever-lasting and true love. Sasuke’s never had a healthy relationship in his life to use as a reference, and he more than likely didn’t even have a real wedding. It was signing papers.

@samanthasan answered your reply but the only thing I disagree with is Sasuke marrying her to save “honor.” It likely wasn’t about honor at all, it was about Sakura wanting to marry him to begin with, to be his wife. Sasuke likely doesn’t care about Sakura’s reputation, it’s Sakura who cares more. The marriage was something she was responsible for, not Sasuke scrambling to make sure people don’t see her negatively. 

[madara-fate]

In Boruto manga at some point appeared some cards for Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura etc, which I find rather contradicting to Kishimoto's 3rd databook. Sasuke had 5/5 in ninjutsu in the 3rd databook, but only 4/5 stars on his card at ninjutsu. And also, a huge difference between he and Sakura in terms of intelligence (100 and 174 respectively, while in the 3rd databook Sasuke had 3.5/5 and Sakura 4/5 at intelligence, so the difference was obviously not that high between them).

That difference in the new manga really bothers me, and also the fact that Sasuke has only 4/5 stars at ninjutsu when he was always talented at it in canon and had 5/5 in the 3rd databook. And because of those details, I really have problems taking this new Boruto manga as canon or even taking it for serious. Shouldn’t Ikemoto be more considerate of Kishimoto’s work?

Kodachi is the one who’s writing it, not Ikemoto. I haven’t checked for myself, but I’ll take your word for it that those stats are accurate. In which case then yeah, more effort and consideration should have been put into the continuity of their stats. They may not have been privy to them since they were revealed in databooks rather than the manga itself, but that’s little excuse.

Still though, if they were ever gonna mess up continuity in anything, I’d rather it be the stats, which in the grand scheme of things, doesn’t really change much.

[madara-fate]

Hey. I was wondering why do you think Sakura, after she found out that she was pregnant, chose to stay besides Sasuke when they travelled together and didn't chose to return to the village instead? I mean, I don't really understand what reason could she have to keep travelling in that state, knowing that it could have endangered the baby. I'm not an anti, btw. Just that this kinda bugs me.

Why do you assume Sakura would have continued travelling in that state? It wasn’t as if she had the intention of continuing what they were doing and ignoring the fact that she was pregnant. She simply wanted Sasuke to be present for the birth of their daughter, and if returning to the village was out of the question for him, then she’d stay and give birth outside of the village by means of a local doctor, or in their case, a trusted friend in Karin :)

[sasukeuchiha-eternalmangekyou]

//Exactly!!! That’s why Sasuke’s said many times that Naruto didn’t know his pain. Because painful experiences are never the same. They vary depending on the person and the circumstances surrounding it. People handle and process pain differently. And his past is definitely traumatizing. It’s not him being over dramatic about what’s happened. If you eliminate the massacre and what he witnessed, you’re taking away the validation of his suffering and no one has the right to tell you your reaction to something harmful is wrong. There’s ways of handling it better or worse, but seriously Sasuke dealt with a lot of buildup afterwards. I didn’t blame him for keeping his distance or turning out the way he had. I’ve been defending that point for years XD