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we'll never be that cold again
Plato, Tesla, Bowie and COACOAC
Yeah, itās always me. Today we dig a little into philosophy. Specifically into Plato, my beloved (joke not intended) and how things happening around larry remind me of his works lately. Okay, hold tight. Most of it is gonna be nonsense. (Summary and links at the end)
Alright. Not gonna lie, the first time I listened to copy of a copy of a copy I thought about Hegel. This is my bias: I always go to read into stuff from a philosophical/mythological point of view. Anyway I thought about Hegel because that man was OBSESSED with number three and triads, you know?
Copy of
A copy of
A copy.
Next connection was (very naturally) Plato. If you know the basic about Plato philosophy, you will know it revolves around the duality of ideal world and reality and, to simplify, how the reality is a copy of the ideal world. The world of āideasā, the so called hyperuranium, is the authentic one. The reality is just a reproduction. Ideas are the essence of existence and they exist independently from the real world. They are what human thoughts are made of and indispensable for the thinking process. They are universal, eternal. That been said, I archived this information in my brain and that was it.
Until when Alessandro Michele posted this jumper here. I donāt trust him (I canāt stress this enough) but I used to follow him on Instagram. From what he decides to share on social and the way he does it (roman mythologyās references, latin captions, cryptic paintings silently hinting bluegreening etc), I am positive he attended a humanistic high school like I did, or at least he knows this stuff. And I would try to guess he knows who Plato is. We do study philosophy in Italian licei, so yeah I think he knows.
This ācopy of a copy of Ideasā comes from Plato and to me itās a confirmation of my previews suspicions. This concept is obviously well known in the artistic fields from latin literature to nowadays fashion and figurative arts, theatres, cinemas, music. Aemulatio, inspiration, reference, replica⦠you name it.
I donāt know why he posted it yesterday, but after he has been bluegreening for a few days lately (coff coff after he acknowledged the stunt coff coff), it was⦠odd. So I went back on my books and opened the Fedro by Plato.
Things I re-learned today:
The supreme idea in the hyperuranium is the āGoodā.
The name āideaā can be misunderstood. Itās not like we use it today. Itās more like nucleus, the matrix, the system of organisation of reality.
Plato divides ideas in two categories: ideas of values (ethics, beauty, aesthetics, justice) and ideas of mathematics (geometry for example).
Mathematics. Matrix. The only thing Iāve been thinking after this was 369.
Now, I think we established somehow 369 reminds to this coacoac concept and it has something to do with mathematics. WBK cause this fandom can be smart (maybe send me link of stuff if you find anything about it) Unfortunately I know nothing about physics and I canāt really work when mathematics is around, I canāt even pretend I know what I am talking about to be completely honest with you, but I googled ā369 matrixā anyway. And this is what captured my eyes (it was the first google result). Iāll leave the link here if you want to read about it.
Plato again. Platonic solids shape the world. āThe entire reality is organised on geometryā.
Triangle, triangle, triangle.
Now, 369 is apparently the Key matrix of Tesla (tesla code) too? Itās like the key of the universe or something? And it is connected to the fibonacci sequence and the golden ration (there were posts and explanations about this too somewhere here and on twitter) Whatever this means⦠the only thing I understood from all the reading I did was: The pattern 3-6-9 repeats itself indefinitely. Constantly. cause you know⦠everything is a copy of a copy of a copy.
I found this on my way navigating the dark side of this google research:
Eternal spiralling. Like.. you know⦠these spiral patterns? Add some bunnies in there too, Iām pretty sure Iām missing something
Hopefully, it will make sense in the end!
Now that we are all here talking about numbers⦠look 74. 7x4 = 28 LMAO STOP STOP STOP STOOOOOOP PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THE GREEK GODS STOP
Also, I find this very funny. I previously mentioned the āPhaedrusā by Plato. Itās a dialogue and consists of a series of three speeches on the topic of Love. Now, itās too long to talk about it properly but basically they are having this little chat on what love is. Is it erotism? Is it passion? Is it better to love? Is love a disease (curse, antidote) and is being in love like being sick? How many different ways to love are there? Also, this revolves around an homosexual relationship (between a boy and an adult very common in ancient greek literature).
Adding Bowie to the rantā¦
I find this quote from Bowie really interesting:
The fine line between the dream state and reality is at times, for me, quite grey. Combining the two, the place where the two worlds come together, has been important in some of the things Iāve written, yes. āThat other life, that doppelganger life, is actually a dark thing for me. I donāt find a sense of freedom in dreams; theyāre not an escape mechanism. In there, Iām usually, āOh, I gotta get outta this place!ā The darker place. So thatās why I much, much prefer to stay awake.ā
Now, Iām not an expert of Bowie music. To be completely honest, I donāt know Bowie music at all. But this specific choice of words is intriguing somehow. When I read it from a blog here on tumblr, it rang a bell in my brain. A fine line between dreams (ideas) and reality. Bowie even mention a doppelgƤnger life which I only read as a life of imitations. Donāt let me even mention SOTT āwe gotta get away from here (x15), we can meet again somewhere, somewhere far away from hereā. Iām 99% sure I read some HarryxBowie parallels for fine line somewhere on here. Iām gonna attach the link when I find it!
Summary: I started an analysis between coacoac/369 and Plato based on nothing. The main link I can see is that yes, 369 is coacoac and it is explained from a platonic point of view. Plato talked about a duality between real world and ideal world and how the world we live in is a reproduction of the āworld of the ideasā. Thereās no authenticity in the real world. Nothing here is new, nothing is original, nothingās left to say or āinventedā. Everything comes from an ideal world as a copy of its ideas. If we want overdo a little more⦠we could see this contrast as a real (ideal) vs fake (real) world. In this way, the real world is basically⦠not authentic. Fake. If we read it as if Plato was living in our times, the unoriginality of our world is built on the most beautiful and attractive surface, hiding the emptiness it hides behind. I am going so deep im gonna be lost at the end. Anyway. The ultimate idea, the main goal is the Good. Itās very optimistic. Like Louis after all.
Sources:
I found this recap of the main concepts from that big brain of @skepticalarrie ! X
Here an interesting analysis of COACOAC by @ialwaysknewyouwerepunk
Here a collection of hints and connection by @queer-halo ! Itās mindblowing to me that once you realise something everything is somehow related to it!
Uncut interview with David Bowie: LINK
The post where I first read the mentioned Bowie quote: HERE by @hershelsue
PS. I am not sure what pronouns Alessandro uses. The wikipedia pages in Italian use he/him.
Sorry whatās bishopsgate?
Hi dear,
It's a place in London:
And it's in Harry's song, Late Night Talking:
I've never been a fan of change But I'd follow you to any place If it's Hollywood or Bishopsgate I'm coming too
Note: related to this