#lungposting

[the-froggy-man]

I desperately need iron lung on home release so I can watch it while taking a bath fully clothed then every time simon says fuck another red bath bomb drops in

[huiyis]

the lighting in iron lung is so special to me. simon is always lit overhead in the lung, and his face is always in shadow while his hair has a sort of halo. his personal identity doesnt matter either to eden or the coi, he is just their faceless saviour

whereas in his encounter with the light and elli, he is completely, yet dimly, illuminated. both of them see his humanity, but they struggle to identify aspects of his personal identity, the parts that define Him.

to the other characters, and by extension the audience, he is defined by his Lack of identity, and the reason why it is so jarring for us to learn about his history. we have also projected this blank slate onto him

[poison-doll]

[gregorthesnail]

gold morning lung interlude where she becomes strong enough to find herself

[huiyis]

i think the one important thing i picked up from iron lung that i havent seen anyone else talk abt is how he says 'i just want to live' as opposed to 'i dont wanna die'. obv someone more eloquent than me can put this better but hes making an active decision to Choose to live instead of passively Not wanting to die. a lot of horror does the 'i dont wanna die' bc at the end of the day (its night) and the audience Expects these characters to die. so the fact that simon says so clearly 'i just want to live' subverts the audience expectation and causes them to Also want him to live, hes been fighting so hard for it the whole time and hes even willing to destroy himself just to survive. he literally is just Some guy and no one deserves to be sacrificed in the name of advancement no matter what theyve done. and also his whole character arc is him finding opportunities to choose what he wants and gaining autonomy in spite of everything (they get their execution i get my freedom) instead of accepting everything he was dealt. and his Choice to want to live so badly. um i had a point somewhere. anyways 👍 iron lung is about choice and autonomy and mister pliers huge honkers

[huiyis]

i love bloodymary so much and the concept of simon on the hail mary, but have we considered grace and rocky in the lung???

post canon where simon turns into a blood ocean fish, and grace and rocky somehow end up on at-5. so many possibilities... putting grace through The Horrors? sure! rocky grace save simon? even better. eva stratt and ava iron lung crossover? dont tempt me with a yuriful time. whatever u can think of i Promise u can use it somehow

[slaps hull] this bad boy can fit so many ideas

[huiyis]

broke: markiplier shows his tits in iron lung for fanservice

woke: markiplier shows his tits in iron lung to humanise simon and remind the audience that he is flesh and blood as much as they r

bespoke: tmasc simon <3

[huiyis]

thinking about the theme of knowledge and understanding and belief in iron lung.

covering the obvious first. the 'ignorant god', the light, sees the universe through a 'pinhole' and 'makes sense of what it sees'. when it comes to the light, knowledge, understanding and belief r one and the same. there is no need to differentiate these concepts. whatever it sees, it believes it knows and understands, everything will change into the beliefs of an omnipotent being even if it is so jarringly Wrong.

everyone believes that they r doing the right thing, simon with following ava's instructions and gathering information on the blood ocean, ava with sending unnamed convicts down into the ocean as 'calculated risks' to benefit humanity, elli with trying to stop simon from getting the black box out and protecting them from the danger of the light.

simon is constantly subject to external projections of belief. eden, the coi and even the light subject him to their beliefs. eden believes that it is humanity's fate to die out, believes that it is their duty to assist this fate, believes that they must murder, and present this belief as knowledge, to push simon to do their bidding. the coi believes that simon is an irredeemable monster, unworthy of a second chance, which is why they sent him down. they believe him to be a disposable tool, and by acting on this belief, they turn it into truth. it 'doesnt matter' what simon believes, what he understands or doesnt. he has no choice but to follow the beliefs of these two institutes. he never gets the opportunity to understand and know What exactly he is doing and why. he is kept in the dark, because ultimately, everyone and everything around him takes his autonomy away from him, and he doesnt have the choice to believe and understand for himself. however, simon manages to finally gain autonomy in the third act after fighting to get it the entire movie (see: my other post about choice) and actively oppose the belief of the light. he makes the choice to do what he believes is the right thing, to get the black box out no matter what, something elli doesnt want, and eventually giving up his life for this belief.

ava knows that sending people to their near-certain death is wrong, but she must hold on to her belief that this is for a worthy cause, that this is a calculated risk, that this will benefit everyone in the end. she cares so much about everyone, but she must distance herself from the people she doesnt want to believe she is murdering. she clings onto her hope, her belief that it is all worth it. her judgement, her belief and knowledge, determines the outcome of each trip, from simon's oxygen to whether he gets to leave.

elli believes that the data in the black box contains false hope for humanity, that whatever the scientists on sm-8 discovered about the ocean and the light is only going to lead to more doomed missions and death. they know what exactly the data is, which leads to their belief that the 'right thing' to do is destroying all of it.

we never find out whether elli was right about the danger of knowing about the light. it is up to the audience to decide which perspective they believe, simon's and ava's hope, or elli's despair.