it doesn't sit right with me that Logan and possibly Matty as well may have known Becky never died
also the whole Tia Wardley thing as well... I wish we could have seen Logan and Matty again either during or after the Becky thing with either Lisa, Betsy, or Carla confronting Logan asking if he knew Becky was still alive
but then again didn't he get his ass kicked for even mentioning Tia 😅
I rewatched the scene from January 2025 with Matty holding Bobby hostage as per Rob's plan and I like to imagine that Rob bringing up 1) him being a neglectful dad to Bobby and 2) God + Mason is what struck nerves in Matty because he seemed proper upset beyond playing the part of a volatile inmate in the hostage situation
so here are my thoughts + long semi-coherent rant in general!
I think those three things would set him off since his own parents were neglectful, he probably thought faith was stupid, and Mason is still a fresh wound because I doubt Matty's dealt with grief before since let's face it, it's inevitable even if you got the tough guy persona
when Matty is sent to solitary and Rob visits him, it caught my eye that he was still upset even out of sight of the guards and Bobby. Maybe he just got himself too worked up for the part or something and has poor coping skills (very likely) Idk but it's interesting
Rob says to him "Cheers Rob! Thanks for having my back!"
and Matty mutters something that sounds like "Right, for doubling my sentence." while fighting the tears again as he looks up and sighs
then Rob leaves and Matty sits down and looks like he's about 0.5 seconds away from crying before the episode ends and that's the last time we see Matty
I'm not trying to make Matty seem like a softie or anything, I think going to a proper prison for once as opposed to overnight jail visits and the STC was a reality check for him and especially facing the potential consequences of that stunt he pulled (whether or not his sentence actually got doubled, who knows) which he probably thought he'd get away maybe put this shock into him that there's no more "fallbacks" and it just shows that much like Mason, there's still someone beneath all that hardcore tough guy stuff
I can't remember if Séamus quit or got axed or what but I really hope that maybe one day we'll see Matty again... considering he was only 18 when he went to prison it's possible even if he did get a more lengthy sentence, there could be a chance he comes back for something entirely new
it kinda sucks analyzing niche characters that had more potential when all the storylines have been finished and moved on from... I really wished during the back-from-the-dead-Becky storyline they would have revisited the Radcliffes or something but alas, we can write that ourselves, it's just disappointing how the potential was there but wasn't used (would have loved to see post-Corriedale Carla or Betsy visit Logan again and ask if he knew all along but also why did NO ONE visit Matty when Logan was ragebaiting them (I do know irl stuff has to do with what characters stay on and such but yeah... the other characters forgot about Matty))
Also didn't they bring their uncle in for questioning shortly after Logan's arrest?? I think it was related to dead-Becky which once again! Frustrates me how during the back-from-the-dead-Becky storyline, they forgot about the Radcliffes aside from like two mentions :') Matty and Logan knew Becky was alive, I'm convinced okay
I do wish information about them was more easily accessible because... I'm honestly too lazy to try and watch 300+ episodes of 2023-2025, I watched all of Matty and Logan's scenes as they only had 25-27 appearances according to the Corrie fandom wiki but I have yet to watch all of Mason's scenes (114 appearances) where we could get more information on the Radcliffe family and I also said 300+ episodes earlier because who knows what other characters know and have said 😅😅😅 things slip through the cracks...
also this is so random but where did they (wikis) get Logan's exact birthday (October 14 2003) from because I for the life of me can't find a mention maybe I'm looking at the wrong episodes or maybe it was a behind the scenes thing
I lowkey haven't covered everything either but it's past 4 AM rn I should definitely get to sleep 😭🤞
I love seeing behind the scenes photos of the Radcliffes (mainly Logan and Matty) because they're kinda scary on screen but then so joyous and kind looking in behind the scenes
it's also the same with Theo and his actor, Theo is hella scary but then his actor from what I've seen is so goofy I love it
Guys I might sound batshit crazy but please continue to hear me out on my Alice = Matty+Logan+Mason's mother theory now that the Roy penpal storyline has evolved 😔
So this Alice is a married woman and now her husband Mal Roper has appeared, punched Roy, and did drugs with Bernie... problematic newcomer already I'd reckon but I suppose I can understand since Mal said that him and Alice have been married thirty years and have had three kids ...
The mention of three kids caught my attention bro
Alice is the mother of a prisoner, we know that much since that's how Roy started talking with her, but the three kids is what's got my brain going again wondering if Alice is the mother of Matty, Logan, and Mason... because that's three right there, two of which are prisoners now and we're only aware of one
I know my theory sounds crazy but anything is possible on Corrie at this point so just bear with me guys
Mal never really talked about his kids to Bernie, whether or not it was because he was drunk/drugged out of his mind or maybe there's some sort of shame in having at least one prisoner for a kid
but if my theory is true then he'd be having one dead lad and two prisoners for kids
Also weren't the Radcliffe's parents neglectful/abusive? (I apologize for my lack of knowledge on them)
Mal even said the three decades of marriage weren't all happy years and unhappy parents can lead to troubled kids
here's another thing I know people will bring up is that Mal's last name is Roper and since he and Alice are married it's likely Alice took on his last name which could debunk the Matty+Logan+Mason's mum theory
HOWEVER let's say she didn't change her last name and her kids got her last name instead of their father's name... so there's still a possibility her last name could be Radcliffe and it passed down to the three we know
And yes this is all a bit of a reach but like I said at this point anything is possible on Corrie so I wouldn't even be surprised despite all the plot holes in this theory
okay but wait you know how Lou made a temporary return when Debbie was in prison earlier this year because she was the assigned caretaker or sumn for Debbie?
it's making me wonder if Dylan does go to prison for the strangulation and we get scenes in there then what if we get a possible temporary return of Logan and/or Matty...
I don't think Matty and Logan would leave Dylan alone if he ended up in the same prison as them, they'd want some kind of revenge for him bringing the knife to that fight, like some sort of grudge
no cus Matty was such a ragebaiting troll when Lisa and Kit were interrogating him for the Underworld break-in but when Logan initially hit Carla, Matty had his hands on his head in shock... bud had to switch up real quick 😭🤞
what level of insanity have I reached for theorizing Matty's birth month
Hmm
Matty was 18 as of January 13th 2025, his final appearance and where he directly states how old he is
Matty was in police custody November 27th 2024 after Carla was attacked and the only one present with him was hissss solicitor? so there was no adult needed for him as he would have been 18 then too
so... Matty's birthday cannot be between November 27th - January 13th which means all of December is cut out
his first appearance was October 16th 2023, he was in the Greenford STC, and he could have been either 16 or 17 depending on when his birthday is (which has to be prior to November 27th) and he was in there for glassing another man which based on my research for under 18s, can have a maximum sentence of about 2 years which meanssss he couldn't have still been there by November 8th 2024 if he'd been recently put in
now we're getting into very messy territory so bear with me
when Mason was on trial for the knife stuff with Liam in April 2024, one of his brothers was present (uncredited actor but most likely Logan) and if that was in fact Logan then using this information that means Matty was either still 17 and still in young offenders or he WAS 18 but still in young offenders or he could have been 17 and just not old enough to accompany Mason
ANYWAY
if we go the route that Matty was 17 during Mason's trial that means for a fact his birthday cannot be between November 27th and April 8th which now rules out January, February, and March
so that basically narrows it down to April-November
I had a random thought earlier wondering if maybe it wasn't Matty and Logan who killed Tia Wardley but rather their parents?? and maybe that could be why their parents abandoned them and Mason... hmmm