#milkvan slander

[satly-tea132]

saw a TikTok comment that I think deserves to be shared

[byleriscanon713by]

Bro I just realized the more feminine El gets through the series the less Mike likes her

[lordystrange]

So let me get this straight (pun intended)

In season 1 Mike meets El in the woods. We’ve been shown other people mistaking her as a boy first, but there’s no way Mike did that. He took her home because it was love at first sight, not because he’s a caring human being and she was alone in the dark woods wearing nothing but a t-shirt in the rain.

Then he makes a plan to get his mother to deal with this in the morning. To send her back to the Pennhurst (which we now know to be a mental hospital), because it was love at first sight?

But then when he finds out she has these cool powers, he realizes she could help finding Will and he decides to keep her. Because it was love at first sight?

Then they have a few moments of understanding and a few moments of lying and fighting and it affects everyone in the party and Lucas makes the marriage comment and then the comment about Mike only liking El because she isn’t repulsed by him like most girls are. But only the marriage comment counts because it was love at first sight?

And then a few days after meeting her, right after discussing how Nancy could be El’s new sister and El asking if Mike would like her brother, Mike decides that’s the right moment to kiss her. Because it was love at first sight? And then she disappears.

Then in season 2 we see El calling for Mike in the UD. A situation parallelled to other ships like Jancy and Lumax and Byler, but unlike with those ships, the other one is not there for her. El finds her own way out with no Mike around. Because it was love at first sight?

And we saw in s1 how Mike only heard someone breathing through the radio, and even though he just saw Will’s dead body, he believed it was him and kept looking for him. But in s2 we see how Mike actually briefly sees El for a couple times and he tells Will about it, but he still doesn’t go looking for her. Even though we see him holding on to hope that she’s alive, calling for her on the radio, he doesn’t go looking for her. Because it was love at first sight?

And they are separated for almost entire season and they finally meet, Mike spends like two seconds with her and then starts raging at Hopper. Because this was not about him feeling guilty about El’s self sacrifice but instead about him being in love with her. Because it was love at first sight?

And then in season 3 they have suddenly been together like 6 months. And we didn’t get to see their journey because why would we wanna see the main couple’s first moments in a serious romantic relationship. Because it was love at first sight?

And they have been written to be this annoying couple who only make out and ignore their friends all the time. And they they have stupid, comedic fights and a break-up. And we’ve told how in these situations the boy soon comes crawling back begging for forgiveness and we do see that happening but not to El. And we also see how El doesn’t know what she likes and how Max teaches her that there’s more to life than stupid boys. Why? Because it was love at first sight?

And then shit goes down and then we have a 3 months long time skip and then suddenly El says ily to Mike and kisses him and he doesn’t kiss back but now they are back together. With no build-up to it. Because it was love at first sight?

And in season 4 we learn that Mike hasn’t been able to even write ily back to El. We learn that El wants to pretend like she’s popular to Mike because she’s insicure, and Mike tries to pretend like he’s not a nerd to El because he’s insicure. And there are fights between Mike and El because of Mike and El’s relationship AND between Mike and Will because of Mike and El’s relationship. And we keep seeing scenes with this love triangle and Mike and El’s relationship not working because they don’t understand each other. Because it was love at first sight?

And they get separated again but instead of showing us them doing some growing together or at least towards one another, we see El growing independent and Mike growing apart. Until they meet again with no kiss and clearly still not on the same page. And soon shit goes down again and we need Mike to say ily to El because that’s the only way this girl could have strength to save her bestie. Because it was love at first sight?

And then we see the monologue that’s disappointingly vague and the ilys aren’t working and Mike is pushed to do it by Will and he uses same words as Will and Eddie and he tells her it was love at first sight and we are supposed to believe him. And it doesn’t save the world, not even Max, but we are still supposed to believe him. Why?

Is this really supposed to be the main ship? The groundbreaking love story? Something unique and never-been-done-before? (Can’t argue with that tho…)

I don’t understand why people love them. Why do people love them?

Mileven shippers often say that Byler shippers only ship Byler because it’s a gay ship…

I wonder where that argument comes from. Is it possibly rooted in them only shipping Mileven because it is a straight ship?

[heartsgettingwiser62]

So many people out there really believe that the gay kid that's always been bullied for "acting gay" and therefore believes he can't have a happy ending bc he was "born wrong", is actually not going to have said happy ending and learn that he can't always get what he wants (although he already knows that. That's Will's whole thing. That he believes that he's not allowed to be fully happy or get what he wants bc what he wants is "wrong". But ig he just has to learn that lesson harder or smth???)

Ah, yes. The gay, selfless kid who's suffered hell itself innumerable times actually doesn't get his happy ending bc he was born gay and fell in love with his straight best friend!!! Better luck next time. Sure, that's the greatest message to give in a show about outcasts. Aha.

(Oh, and that straight best friend we were talking about? He ends up in a relationship where both parties don't trust the other enough to confess them how they really feel and where they both feel insecure and not enough. When, coincidentally, the gay kid loved him the exact way he's always wanted to be loved. But, that's just a coincidence, of course. Such a shame that all the queercoding was a coincidence too and that this guy is definitely straight and in love with his girlfriend. Although he can't say it unless she's dying and being prompted to say it by the gay kid??? So many coincidences!!)

[icttc]

Breaking:

Official sources confirmed that Stranger Things (Netflix) Mike and Eleven will have very romantic moments in the upcoming and final season, that they will take their relationship to the next level and signal the possibility of getting engaged.

[jaegerisim]

Girls when...

Girls when they realize that Mike having a box full of letters to Will signed "Love, Mike" and Byler being requited are still not canon.

[hattieg]

y’all, i just have to say it. There is analysis after analysis to prove Mike has requited feelings but genuinley can you milkvan shippers truly explain why the airport hug was so awkward? Like if he just sees Will as his bestfriend and the dufferbags didn’t make the last episode of season 3 symbolizing Mike realizing his feelings for Will, then can you honestly tell us why Mike made it weird at the airport? Because will is the canon gay one and he didn’t make it weird, he was waiting to see his BESTfriend after 6 months of not…wouldn’t you want to hug your bestfriend and never let go? So why the awkwardness…please do tell.

[magnoli4-x]

If in the end we were wrong and mileven is endgame I really hope it goes back to season 1 and 2 mileven because I remember watching the snowball and the Mike and El reunion and I thought it was so fucking adorable but then in s3 and 4 I just couldn’t stand them being together. If we don’t get byler endgame (I’m sure we will but if) then please for the love of god make mileven cute again. I really hope the cuteness we saw in s1 and s2 ends up staying as a platonic thing.