Every time I try to rewatch Miraculous, I remember the direction they decided to take Chloé and get so sad and angry I get nauseous ://///
Like why. She was actually interesting and unique
There's a lot of things I like in the newer seasons but honestly ever since the introduction of her sister it kinda crumbled in my opinion. I miss her so bad and I hate what they did to her character development
We're going through a massive heat wave which is making me easily irritable and hard to concentrate on my usual hobbies like I usually can so I'm putting a minor pause on my Live Notes and Opinions series for now since I can't stand the thought of watching anything mlb related in this heat. I'm also putting a pause on requests because I have 24 episodes on the waiting list already. I'll only be taking requests again once I've gone through some of the recommendations. I'm sorry for the wait but I want my thoughts to be solely on the episodes without being warped by the heat. Here's an updated recommendation list for everyone:
Reflekdoll, Ephemeral, Catalyst, Mayura, Risk, Strike Back, Kuro Neko, The Kwamis Choice 2 parter, Elation, The Mime, Copycat, Derision, Simpleman, Queen Banana, Frightengale, Oni-Chan, Sublimation, Werepapas, Daddycop, Vampigami, Dark Castle, Sleeping Syren.
[Hot Take] Chloe Bourgeois is One of the Most Consistent Characters in MLB
(warning: this post contains opinions you might not agree with. proceed with caution. Before you scroll, please here me out.)
Chloé Bourgeois is one of those characters who feels inconsistent to many viewers because her behavior escalates, but escalation is not the same thing as contradiction. When you track her arc from Season 1 through Season 5, what you actually see is a remarkably stable psychological profile: a girl whose entitlement, insecurity, and craving for validation drive every choice she makes. The show never presents her as someone who grows out of these traits despite her nonexistent redemption arc.
Now, this isn't to say that the people saying that this is bad writing are wrong, because they aren't. MLB is rife with writing inconsistencies, narrative framing, and poor character dynamics. Not in the ways you think anyway, but I'll get back to that later. But seeing people saying that Chloe is acting out of character and is behaving worse than usual makes me scratch my head, because she isn't exactly doing anything new.
From the very beginning, Chloé’s behavior is rooted in the same three impulses: (1) protect her status, (2) punish anyone who threatens it, and (3) cling to the people she believes define her worth. In Seasons 1–3, she expresses this through petty bullying, manipulation, and constant demands for attention. She wants to be admired, feared, and obeyed, and she lashes out when she isn’t. Her fixation on Adrien, her jealousy of Marinette, and her desperate need for her mother’s approval are all early indicators of the same emotional engine that drives her later actions. Nothing about her core motivations ever changes.
What does change in Seasons 4–5 is the narrative framing of her behavior, not the nature of it. Despite Chloe being written as a spoiled bully with attitude problems who excessively bullies her classmates for little to no reason, her poor behavior was always framed as gag humor and not taken seriously, often just a device to get the akuma of the week. But after Miracle Queen, the gag humor lens was removed, Chloe is still portrayed as a malicious bully, the only difference is that both the narrative and people within the story are treating her like one. Which is where I think the tonal whiplash and bad writing allegations are coming from. The allegations are right of course because from the beginning, Chloe should've been framed and treated more seriously, because bullying is no laughing matter, especially when said bully has the ability to ruin the lives of her victims and avoid consequences because of her extremely powerful and wealthy father.
To go on a side tangent, one of the biggest problems of MLB is that handles bullying poorly because the show often punishes the wrong people and protects the wrong characters. Marinette is a clear example: instead of being supported for standing up to Chloé, she’s constantly compared to her bully as if they’re “two sides of the same coin.” The narrative pushes back whenever Marinette shows frustration or anger, even though she’s been dealing with Chloé’s harassment for years. This directly contradicts the show’s own message that “evil triumphs when good people do nothing,” because every time Marinette does something—calls Chloé out, refuses to tolerate her behavior, or sets boundaries—she’s treated like she’s overreacting or being unkind. Meanwhile, the adults who actually enable Chloé’s behavior—André, Bustier, and Damocles—are never held responsible. André spoils her and excuses everything she does, Bustier preaches kindness while refusing to protect her students, and Damocles is the principle and show be protecting all of his students, yet he doesn't until the last second. Yet the show frames them as sympathetic or harmless instead of acknowledging that their inaction is the reason Chloé’s bullying got so bad. By refusing to hold the adults accountable and by framing Marinette’s justified reactions as “too harsh,” the show ends up sending the message that victims should stay quiet, bullies deserve endless patience, and authority figures bear no responsibility for the harm they allow.
The show has also poisoned the way fans view what is and isn't an acceptable reaction to bullying. When Chloe's nonexistent redemption was teased, the writers had Marinette doing the lion share of the work. She had to change how she saw Chloe, she had to give Chloe more grace even when she was actively hurting her, and she had to give endless chances lest she be scolded by the narrative. They've done this for so long, that when the writers suddenly decide that hey, Marinette shouldn't have to bear the burden of dealing with Chloe, it comes too quick and sudden and is at odds with what they had portrayed before, which obviously led to the fandom crucifying Marinette for not being a doormat therapist and "refusing to learn that she has to be kind to people she hates". Never mind that up until this point, Marinette was probably the kindest non enabler person to Chloe and tried to drag a half decent person from her before she defected to Hawkmoth. But no, she's awful for being tired of having to deal with someone who wants to destroy her, I guess. The is the fault of the writers because they should've made it 100% clear that Marinette shouldn't have to help her long time bully Chloe be a better person and that role should be Chloe's and Chloe's alone.
I don't want to name names, but I saw a post on here that said that Bustier was a better person than Marinette because she's willing to be patient with Chloe to help her grow. I saw another comment that said that Marinette has no right to be upset over Lila trying to take the class rep position away from her because Marinette did nothing to stop Chloe's cheating and bullying 💀. My guy, Bustier is an adult and a teacher. It's literally her job to handle problem students and work with them. She's likely had extensive training for that. Marinette is a child and also Chloe's victim therefore she owes her nothing. Also, I don't know what schools you guys are attending, but in my experience, class reps are not held responsible for the wellbeing of students or tasked with punishing students for bad behavior and being their therapist. That typically the teacher's job. You know, the actual adult. There are many fanfictions that show Bustier treating Marinette as an assistant teacher and foisting off her work on her, but lowkey, the fandom treats her that way too.
When Ladybug stops indulging her, when Adrien pulls away, and when the class stops tolerating her cruelty, Chloé doesn’t suddenly become a different person—she becomes a more desperate version of the same person. Her tantrums become more dramatic, her schemes more reckless, and her alliances more dangerous because she’s losing the social power she once took for granted. This is exactly how someone with her personality and upbringing would react: by doubling down, not by reflecting or improving.
Not to mention, a lot of the behavior and decisions that she exhibited in seasons 4 and 5 are a direct callback to what she does in earlier episodes:
In Horrificator (Season 1) and Queen Banana (Season 4), the parallels are almost identical. In both episodes, the class is trying to make a student film, and Chloé immediately hijacks the project to make it all about herself. In Horrificator, she demands to be the star, refuses to follow directions, and throws a tantrum when she doesn’t get her way. In Queen Banana, she repeats the exact same pattern but with higher stakes—she forces her father to fund a movie where she plays the lead, bullies the crew, and melts down when Zoé is chosen instead. The only difference is that Season 4 gives her more power to abuse, but the behavior itself is the same.
Zombizou (Season 2) and Sole Crusher (Season 4) also mirror each other perfectly. In both episodes, Chloé sacrifices someone else to save herself from an akuma attack. In Zombizou, she literally grabs Sabrina and shoves her in front of herself as a human shield. In Sole Crusher, she sacrifices the entire Dupain-Cheng family. These moments show that Chloé has always been willing to let others suffer as long as she stays safe. Season 4 doesn’t “ruin” her character—it just repeats the same selfish instinct she’s always had. Granted, she does feel guilty about this in Zombizou, but she only apologizes to Bustier, her biggest enabler after her father 🙄.
Her episodes as Antibug, Queen Wasp, and Miracle Queen also show a clear pattern that continues into later seasons. In Antibug (Season 1), she becomes akumatized because she can’t stand Ladybug correcting her. In Queen Wasp (Season 2), she abuses the Bee Miraculous to show off and prove she’s better than Ladybug, even if it puts people in danger. In Miracle Queen (Season 3), she escalates this by trying to take control of the entire city to force Ladybug to acknowledge her. These episodes all revolve around the same idea: Chloé wants power, attention, and superiority, and she lashes out when she doesn’t get them. Seasons 4–5 simply continue this pattern by showing her trying to regain the power she lost.
Another strong parallel is between Despair Bear (Season 2) and Penalteam (Season 4). In Despair Bear, Chloé tries to host a party to make herself look good, but she treats everyone terribly and only tries to be nice because she wants Adrien's friendship back, not because of any growth on her end. In Penalteam, she does the same thing during the class sports tryouts—she mocks her classmates, refuses to follow rules, and throws a fit when she doesn't want to play soccer. Both episodes show that Chloé’s need for control and status has always been more important to her than teamwork or fairness.
A final parallel appears between Malediktator (Season 2) and Revelation (Season 5). In Malediktator, Chloé demands that her father punishes the entire school because she feels disrespected for being called out as a train crasher, showing how quickly she uses her privilege to hurt others. In Revelation, she does the same thing on a bigger scale by teaming up with Lila to spread lies, frame innocent people, and turn the school environment toxic. Both episodes show that Chloé has always used authority figures—or anyone with power—to get revenge on people she thinks have wronged her. Season 5 doesn’t change her; it just gives her a partner who encourages her worst traits.
Specific episodes aren't even needed for this analysis. Her alliance with Lila in Season 5 is a perfect mirror of her Season 1–3 behavior. In the early seasons, Chloé gravitates toward anyone who reinforces her superiority—Sabrina, her mother, Ladybug when she was indulging her, even Hawk Moth when she thinks he admires her even though he's just grooming her. In Season 5, Lila fills that same role: someone who flatters her, validates her grievances, and encourages her worst impulses. Chloé isn’t acting “out of character” by teaming up with another manipulator; she’s acting exactly as she always has, seeking out relationships that protect her ego and punish her perceived enemies.
Even her cruelty in later seasons is consistent with her earlier patterns. In Seasons 1–3, she humiliates classmates, abuses her father’s authority, and weaponizes her privilege. It's simple cause and effect. Her behavior escalates because the consequences escalate. When she loses the Bee Miraculous, she becomes vindictive. When the class stops tolerating her, she retaliates. This is the same Chloé who only now she’s cornered, and cornered people lash out harder. She mimics Audrey’s elitism, her disdain for others, and her belief that status equals worth. In Seasons 4–5, when Audrey reappears and reinforces these values, Chloé regresses even further. Her worst behavior is always tied to her mother’s influence, and the later seasons simply push that dynamic to its extreme.
Chloé is one of the most consistent characters in Miraculous Ladybug precisely because she never changes. Her behavior in Seasons 4–5 doesn’t contradict her early seasons—it completes them. It shows what happens when a character built on entitlement and insecurity finally loses the scaffolding that once held her up.
Has anyone been asking for Felix episode yet? You know, canon Felix debut episode where he test Adrien friends by being asshole while pretending to be him? In Adrien mom disappearance day?
He also deleted messages from Adrien classmates. Chloe ones got me bummed out that Adrien can't hear it cause it so considerate. I'm indifferent about others message but goddamn I'm really pissed when hearing Maribug confession message. Girl this ain't about you. Stfu
I've already reviewed Felix, it was one of the earlier entries and I hated that Marinette sent a love confession as her "supportive message" on the anniversary of Emilie's disappearance when she knew Adrien would be grieving, and that Tikki supported her doing so which really took me horribly off guard when I watched the episode. With hindsight of how the writers handled Felix's character, I still don't understand why they had him try to SA Ladybug by trying to forcefully kiss her when he pretended to be Adrien if they wanted to make him a hero down the line.
It can be found on my page with the "miraculous live notes and opinions" tag but it's a long scroll down since I posted my Felix review months ago.
Oblivio is actually one of the episode that Adrien salters used as an example of how terrible Adrien is, blaming him for how him and Marinette lost their memories cause he was too busy flirting with her.
Was it? I don't keep up with Adrien salt nowadays because the majority of it upsets me so I don't search for that tag on either Tumblr or in fanfiction, but it does line up with other episodes Adrien salters used to point out how terrible Adrien is and how "Marinette deserves better" which ramped up during S3-4. Actually, how many episodes do Adrien salters point towards when they want to convince others that Adrien is bad? I'm going to try and name some off the top of my head, feel free to add on because I've the feeling I'm going to miss a lot.
The obvious ones are Chameleon and Ladybug, then there's Sentibubbler when he broke the chimney, Oblivio which you stated, Glaciator was another big one when he was sad that Ladybug never arrived at the rooftop, Hack-san when he thought Scarabella had done something to Ladybug or was another Sentimonster and fought her, and Kuro Neko where he revokes his miraculous are the most obvious ones I can recall from when I saw Adrien salt/ bashing in fanfiction and the TV Tropes page on miraculous fanfiction. Again, I don't read Adrien salt so I may be wrong.
This might a unpopular opinion, but I was thinking about Heartfixer and how underwhelming I found it.
The 'marinette gets akumatized' hype has been built for years, and it finally happens, and it's not even a finale two part event- its not even the most prominent akumatization of the episode.
(Speaking of the most prominent Akumatazation of the episode:
(Also does anyone find it annoying that too basically-a-joke-villain boys got to kiss the first season they were introduced while the actual cannon queer couple took a decade? I don't think I've seen anyone bring that up
Their costumes were intentionally embarrassing to where, and while that's not inherently a bad thing, it felt like it lessened the themes of the episode.
There are both the butt of the joke, and at the same time actually a threat.
You're both supposed laugh at them and at the same time take them seriously. Which is fine in theory, but failed in execution.
The difference being its a joke so its fine-
"ha ha boy don't want to kiss a boy. This is funny laugh at them")
And when the Marinette Akumatization finally happens it's resolved nearly immediately, with only a dramatic speech.
The conflict comes from characters not trusting each other or communicating properly in a world where they know not everyone is always who they appear to be.
They specifically experienced and fell victim to Chameleon. Ayla and Nino had a whole thing about how they trust each other explicitly.
No matter how many times you tell us that it doesn't matter if you show us the opposite.
It felt like a letdown
People wanted princess justice, they got a glorified sad statue.
