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MASTER POST

Canon Stuff

Miraculous Season 6 Chronological Timeline (WIP)

Miss Hound + Vesperia

Proud of her Country

live laugh lesbian

SentiCats AU

(more stuff under #senticats au)

General Info

Miraculous Powers

The Interview

Marinette

Zoé

Chloé

Queen Bee

Ladybug

Kitty Noire

The Lovers

Nine Lives

Mustang Concept

Bunnyx Concept

Carapace/Rena Rouge/Argos Concepts

yeah idk

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Fury and Vesperia

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FURY AND VESPERIA MY SHAYLAS!!

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snoopy pride flags :)

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Hi you said you wanted some hot takes on miraculous, and well im not totally controversial i think, I am very about nuance, though, which alot of this fandom does not participate in, seems like for them everything must be one or the other (black and white).

Anyway what id submit is that what Thomas astruc says on Twitter should not matter. And that i dont think we should be judge all the decision of this season, because it hasnt ended yet, and even to a point the whole series. I mean we know how long miraculous drags out stuff, alot of problems shown in this season wont be solved THIS season.

And another thing is on the topic of how critical people are of the characters on trivial stuff, and like they hold them to it. The series is ultimately a kids show where every episode teaches you a lesson, and how do you learn? By making a mistake. Which is what the characters will do in order for the episode to show that lesson. You gotta remember these characters are put into these situations so that a certain plot point can move further.

I also agree; a lot of the plot points introduced won’t be completed until later into the series (Fury, Gabriel’s secret, etc)

I do also agree that a majority of the fandom tends to see characters in a very “black and white” stance. I’ve also noticed a lot of people will critique the actions of characters, completely ignoring that they exist for the plot.

I saw people upset that the Fury plotline wasn’t resolved at the end of Grendiaper, and that Zoé hadn’t been held accountable. Imo, if something is going to be introduced, i’d not want the show to immediately resolve it.

I’ve also seen people be critical of Marinette keeping the secret; obvs people can be upset about it, but acting as if the writing is super poor because she hasn’t told the truth defeats the whole purpose of the season.

I honestly think that this all stems from the previous seasons being episodic, where it truly doesn’t matter what order the episodes are watched in (with the exception of a few episodes from S5). In S6, we have a plot that’s worked throughout the episodes, which makes it where the order is slightly more important. I feel like people are still used to plots being resolved the episode that they’re introduced, so extended plots are still a foreign concept

I also do agree on the Astruc thing; like realistically, majority of the things he says don’t mean much. He’s allowed to have his own opinions and responses to things; if you don’t like them, don’t interact with them. Like even though he’s one of the writers, I do take a lot of things he says with a grain of salt; his answers to most questions seem to be more related to his own personal opinions

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my first art for pride month 2026!!! ✯

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ZOEBRINA NATION RISE

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blue eyed half brothers

redraw of this

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Actually, Miraculous acknowledging adults should've act to correct Chloé at some point but brushing off why they didn't is insulting and might speak of actual political ideas the team might have

To back up, the reason no adult was ever capable of stopping Chloé was because her father was the major of Paris and he would destroy the life of anyone who would dare to oppose her. It wasn't that she was so terrifying and evil that even adults feared her, no, it was that there was an adult man with political power enabling her bad behavior

Once again we're letting André off the hook for his actions; and to me it borders in political commentary because once again powerful men are not held accountable for their actions (just like in real life) and no one thinks this is wrong

Fuck André forever

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need an episode where Fury absolutely dunks on André bc it would be funny

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Please consider Chlogami parallels

I was also thinking about it after this

Chloe 🤝 Kagami

Having moms that only pay attention to them when they serve a purpose and secret manipulative siblings planning something with said moms

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Kagami please be the wake up call that Chloé needs!! Save her from her bootycheeks family!!

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so not to sound mean or anything

but does the miraculous fandom not understand the concept of nuanced characters?

like yes, Alya can hate lying, while also creating illusions; she can also fall victim to lies. Lila’s lies were blatantly obvious to the audience purposely; they need to establish to the audience that they are lies, but the characters will believe them.

yes, Marinette can be insanely hypocritical, and make bad choices. Her believing that her actions are protecting people can hurt people.

Y’all are quick to call things “bad writing” or call characters “mary-sues”, but fail to actually consider that some plots may be prolonged. Ofc you’re free to dislike writing, but S6 follows a more plot-oriented structure compared to the earlier seasons being episodic.

Things won’t be resolved in an episode, and characters can continuously make bad choices and learn over time.

like I could go on about this, but analyzing characters and their motives isn’t insanely difficult. Literally rewatch the episodes; first watch through will always be filled with personal biases.

Watching episodes more than once allows you to see things through the eyes of the characters, and not through the eyes of the audience. I beg y’all to make lists of why characters do things; not why you think they do, but why the story requires them to do things. Consider the world around them, and how they interact with it, and with the people around them. Ask yourself why you dislike the choices they make.

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What are your thoughts on cerise/lila this season? What do you expect her to do next?

OH IM SO GLAD YOU ASKED :D

tbh in previous seasons I heavily disliked Lila; she wasn’t particularly interesting, and I found her more annoying than as a threat

However, in this season, she’s easily one of my favorite characters. Seeing someone be so consistent in her work, and also be figuring out as much as she does makes her so scary. It’s a constant thing of “oh how close is she? when will she figure out everything?”

I also love how she has leverage against Ladybug; she could easily expose the truth, but is actively trying to prove Marinette is Ladybug. If she’s able to prove it, it’ll cause so many issues.

With more recent episodes, seeing her targeting and singling out people is insane. Like writing letters to both Sabrina and Max pretending to be someone different, her going all the way to Shanghai where Mari’s family is, sending a package to Chloé, etc; it’s absolutely wild how far she’s willing to go, and how smartly she goes about it

Overall I find her to be significantly more interesting to watch. She’s someone who just seems insane, and who’s constantly posing risks.

In the future, I could see her doing everything in her power to whittle down the numbers of the miraculars. She’s already attempted to target Sabrina and Max, which leads me to believe that she’ll try to create as much separation as she can.

Honestly, without the last two episodes of S6, it’s hard to make predictions about what comes next 😭😭

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I don't know how you got that from a stamp that literally any parisian can buy but okay

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lowkey my guess is that Marinette knows someone had to have fabricated the letter since Chloé confirmed she didn’t write it?

idk how she would know about the ultrakuma being in the box, unless it was being live-streamed still? like when Chloé was talking with the three everything was being live-streamed, so it’s possible that Mari had watched it? or someone else watched it and mentioned it within earshot?

so two things arriving with the same stamp, one holding an akuma, one being fabricated, it would make sense to deduce that they’re from the same person?

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Zoe Lee you are a Lesbian to me

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Zoé Lee more like Zoé Lee-sbian (please laugh at this)

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Ok but actually not over Queen of the Dreadzone. You're telling me out of all the potential superpowers for an attention seeker to get it's the power to force people to fear her? She doesn't want everyone to love her and be glad she's back in Paris, she just wants to be dreaded again because it's at least better than dealing with the realization that nobody cares about her anymore? Her victim isn't afraid of her, her sister isn't holding out hope for her anymore, and her underling isn't mourning her, and it turns out even though she's the one that left town she's actually the only one who hasn't moved on? And all of this was just a setup by her family to use her as a tool to get a magic charm from Ladybug, they never even intended to let her stay in Paris because even her mom and brother don't actually care about her? Like what the heck sure let the episode clearly intended to put to rest the idea of developing her any further also be the one that makes me want to see it the most because there's so much here.

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no bc the idea that Chloé wants people to fear her rather than appreciate her is crazy

like i know it was most likely written as a “see she’s a bully”, but i lowkey want to know more about this

like in S2 it was stated that her behaviors are reflective of people she cares about (or cares about how they view her); she wants to be appreciated by them

like was the lack of admiration from Sabrina the final straw? was Zoé’s not holding out hope that Chloé could change be the reason?

maybe (and hear me out) it’s Noé; he’s very blatantly Audrey’s favorite, and maybe Chloé’s aware? like with her own fanbase, their admiration could be considered more of a parasocial thing by her, so she really would only have her mother’s admiration to strive for. maybe Noé filling that spot of the favorite has caused Chloé to realize that fear is the only way to get people to listen to her, since attempting to get people to admire her didn’t work

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take some self indulgent zoebrina/vespihound/furyhound art for pride month 🧡🤍🩷

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ok i know i’ve had very opinionated views on Miraculous, so i’m going to be doing a retrospective review of all the episodes 💪💪

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Cognitive dissonance: Chloe and the MLB fandom

Okay so i've wanted to talk about this for a while now.

It's been said again and again how Chloe was robbed of a redemption arc: it seemed like season 2 was, at least on the surface, going to give her one, only for it to be scrapped entirely during miracle queen. However, as Sally (miraculous sins on YouTube) points out, her redeeming actions are almost never to a T: in zombizou, she apologised to bustier but not marinette, the one she truly wronged. In style queen, she regresses back at the end in order to emulate her mother's bratty behaviour. She has an "emotional" heart-to-heart with ladybug later where she confides that she feels purposeless, but all of her behaviour can be interpreted as manipulative: she posed herself a certain way so that she would get a selfish reward, in this case, the miraculous. And of course someone so young wouldn't do that maliciously, it's just how she was raised. Even in queen wasp, when she finally returns the miraculous, she's doing it while 1) she already lost and you could argue she was trying to earn good girl points with ladybug and 2) she was. Literally. Being filmed from every angle. How good is a redemption if it only exists when you are being monitored or when you have personal, egoistical stakes in it?

And at this point, naturally, the whole "Thomas hates Chloe" conversation begin. And don't get me wrong: I agree with most if not all their points: Thomas is taking it out on a fictional fourteen years old HE INVENTED, wasting her story potential. It's not like Chloe has no one who relates to her (children of divorce make some noise!!!), but all that potential is lost, especially since apparently we can forgive a terrorist who SA'd ladybug on screen and leave him with one of the most powerful miraculous because "he's just misundewstood rawr". We could have spared some of this sympathy for Chloe don't y'all think?

So like, when I hear people like utterly_chloe (YouTube) defend Chloe, I think to myself "this makes sense!". But then.

Then I watch the show.

The Chloe that exists, the one that we got, Does not want redemption. She's not irredeemable per say, but every time she is on screen she digs herself deeper into her own undoing. All akumatizations are tantrums to an extent, but Queen of the Dreadzone? Absolutely despicable. A desperate attempt of regaining control over the lives of those she toyed with for her own personal entertainment. And don't get me started on miracle queen, queen mayor and penalteam: she is shown to have absolutely no problem working with a literal Terrorist capital T, multiple times, over minor inconveniences. She is a horrible, horrible person who sees others only in the measure of how much they serve her, her objectives and her status. Again, she's not irredeemable, but people CONTINUOUSLY reach out to her (hey Sabrina hey girl) and she PISSES ON THEM. Also, this fandom and the writing love to portray marinette as the worst individual ever to ever exist in the history of forever and her finally standing up to Chloe might be part of the issue, although that's a whole ass separate post.

So, where does that leave us? The point I wanted to make is that we need to stop pretending Chloe is her wasted potential when she's not. Yes it's a shame. Write whatever fanfictions you want idc. Feel free to disengage with canon Chloe for all I care. But don't pretend she's something she is not and won't be, because in doing that you are literally enabling her continued abuse. And of course these are silly little people that don't exist outside of our brains but like. Do not conflate your criticism of the writing with your glazing of the characters actions please. At this point, we need to let her go.

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real so real

imo there was a direction that Chloé’s character theoretically could’ve gone in from a narrative perspective, but that’s not what the writers had intended for her

I feel like a lot of the conversations surrounding Chloé’s redemption has to do with the “what she could’ve become if she had the correct support systems”, and not so much regarding the actual characterization we see in the show

I still stand by this:

people (Chloé fans/stans) wanted Chloé to have a redemption, and saw a place in the writing where it could’ve worked. however, the writers had little to no intention to give her a redemption; when the writing solidified that Chloé had no interest in changing, the fans saw this as a betrayal.

like there was the fanon path that some wanted to see, and when the canon didn’t align with that, they assumed that the writers were purposely doing it out of spite

imo it seems more likely that the writers never planned for her to have a redemption arc, rather giving her something similar to “a rise and fall” arc

it also seems more plausible than the “the writers/Astruc hate this character so much so they ruined her writing” thing