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The fact that Lady Chaos focused more on Marinette than Adrien even though the premise of the episode was Adrien making a documentary about his dad and wanting to learn more about him 🙄

I like Marinette but she's overshadowing Adrien's relationship with Gabriel

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Hiiiiii to the ml salt community :)))) im genuinely curious about this - why do you guys think Marinette’s writing in season 6 is bad? Coming from someone who has found Marinette really annoying and feels disgusted by how she’s been gaslighting Adrien, it seems like it’s an intentional part of her arc with the show gearing up to call her out for it and make her face consequences.

No hate to the ml salt community btw, I’m a salter too, im just curious :)))

I’m sorry if this offends anyone :)))

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This is nothing new, but man am I tired of how widespread and unquestioned the whole "Marinette has Chat Blanc trauma" thing is. Just the way so many people think it's canon, when it's actually a *head*canon directly contracted by the writers' commentary (not to mention the complete lack of actual trauma displayed in the show proper). Wish more people would realize/acknowledge the "head" part. Or in other words, sure it's fine to imagine a "what if", but don't act as if it's a indisputable fact of her character without unambigious textual evidence.

in before the writers retcon new trauma for her again, a la Derision

Also, can I just say how tired I am of people overusing the word "trauma"? Not every upset/difficult situation is literally traumatic, guys. Not to mention how Maristans have been using "trauma" to excuse her for anything and everything she does since season 4. It cheapens and disrespects actual trauma that people experience by using something that should be an explanation for behavior as justification for that behavior instead. And even if she actually is traumatized, that doesn't magically erase her harmful actions.

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The thing about the "Marinette hasn't recovered from her Cat Blanc trauma" excuse is that it originally started as a long-time fanon explanation that would have made sense, for something canon never properly explained. Because the writers didn't think Marinette needed a reason to keep Cat Noir out of the loop, the series proper never gives an explanation to the blatant disregard of Cat Noir's person by Marinette. This meant that the fans had to come up with an explanation, and "Marinette has trauma" rose as the most sympathetic and compelling one. Now it's years after the "Ladynoir Arc" and the fandom acts like that WAS the canon explanation, even though Marinette shows zero signs of being traumatized by Cat Blanc.

The fact that the word "trauma" gets used to excuse Marinette way too much is definitely something I agree with. Sometimes it feels like every time Marinette is upsette in the show (which is very often) just becomes another trauma to the Maripologist crowd. Just because Marinette cries the hardest out of anyone in every situation doesn't mean she's being "traumatized", it means the writers are trying to milk sympathy from the audience for their little black hole protagonist.

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From a personal opinion standpoint, the 2010s was THE era of "we're airing just any old garbage." Like I personally hate Teen Titans Go and that aired in 2013. Adult Swim aired a lot of questionable, absurdist shows even before that. He could have pitched to companies that fit his vision, even if it didn't get prime time scheduling. He clearly doesn't actually care about the show if he's willing to compromise his entire creative vision to do so. People have sacrificed more to stop even "insignificant" changes. And that's not to say that show runners who care about their work and the story/message they want to tell and would rather get their shows cancelled abruptly than comprise anything for corporate greed and ""professionalism.""

He could have just shared the storyboards and waited for it to gain traction. Hell, people were out there creating short and long form content on Vine and Youtube with just themselves and a shitty phone camera; they were out there doing bare bones editing using jpgs of dolls from dress up games and making memes and entire series from handmade puppets and barbie dolls. Like I get wanting to have something you created to be seen as professional and created through traditional industry standards, but the fact that he's out here saying that he and his show are far and above anything made by amateurs is laughable.

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I think that's exactly it. Astruc wanted Miraculous to become a professionally produced cartoon, no matter what, so he didn't even consider other options. But, the only way to get the series picked up was to convince broadcasters that the concept was bringing something new to the table, and we have a bunch of superhero shows for teens and up audiences. So they lied about the target audience. I repeat that Miraculous' suggested age in my home country used to be ages 4 and up, and Sébastien Thibaudeau later confirmed in an interview that he just straight up lied about the target audience to broadcasters.

But, like, I feel like those lies created an inferior product and left the people working on the project more dissatisfied. Because of the lies, they had to sneak in the things intended for an older audience and more serialized storytelling. But, when the series as a whole is just episodic slop, the end result is just BAD. Add in the fact that the writing team really isn't too good at writing, and they're trying to write something with layers, and the end result is a pile of steaming dogshit.

Although, I do have to say that networks were not airing just ANY slop. The thing about Teen Titans Go and the Powerpuff Girls sequel series is that they were wacky comedies with a superhero coat of paint. Cartoon Network had gotten VERY shy about airing superhero cartoons after The Green Lantern Animated Series and Young Justice attracted a girl audience, but Teen Titans Go and Powerpuff Girls weren't exactly that.

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No matter who they bring in/use for a "traitor arc," there will be no bigger traitor than Marinette Dupain-Cheng herself.

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I mean, yeah. Is there anyone in the show Marinette hasn't let down in some shape or form?

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"They get to share them when they want" NOT WHEN THEY COMPROMISE SOMEONE'S SAFETY holy fuck this message is actually so bad for kids.

If a kid has a friend going through, say, a mental health episode and keeps it a secret because "you can reveal secrets when you feel comfortable", and their friend ends up in danger... what happens?

If a child watching this show is being abused and their friends learn and keep it a secret, what happens?

This is dangerous messaging to have in a children's show.

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I hate that at the end of the day I still love ML with all my heart despite hating the direction it went in. I started watching in season 2. I literally grew up with the show. I can't give it up.

But fuck why wasnt Adrien in the final battle against HIS DAD? Why does he STILL not know his dad was Hawkmoth? What are we DOING?

Edit: I do like the new art style. This isn't a complaint about that. I had an issue when it was first revealed, but seeing it actually animated, I think its really pretty.

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