#moth mumblings

[theflowermaker]

*is masculine in a little lesbian way that pisses you off*

[bnha-submas]

does ingo's disappearance still happen in this au? is it any different?

((Oh it might! No time travel, but there are potential plans :) ))

[ammoth]

@alkarinque​

oh my god yes. and it's like, where do you even start? humans have so many PARTS do you have to draw them realistically before simplifying? should you be studying muscles and stuff first? what about EXPRESSIONS and poses and facial/body diversity???? where do people learn what order this stuff comes in there's so much of it help

THIS

ugh yes exactly, I’m always REALLY overwhelmed by this part? I want to draw bodies and I want to draw facial expressions and these are completely different challenges and THEN you need to combine them somehow and?? What

And, unlike copying from photographs like I did for flowers and animals and shit, I can’t really do that for humans? It always comes out looking weirdly stiff, and maybe my art is already kinda stiff but it shows so much more with humans. And I can’t just wing it like I do for monsters because hellooooo uncanny valley.

I don’t want to draw them realistically, I want to skip that part, but I also kinda want to draw nice, squishy people with muscle and bone and fat in all the right places, but for that I DO need a grasp on anatomy, but how much do I need? I can’t learn muscle groups, that’s such a stiff academic way to go about things and I’ve always sucked at learning shit by heart, but there’s not really a simple explanation on how to put muscle on bones and fat on that, and how do I draw people who are skinny and not muscley without them being stick figures, and!!!

ugh

Humans are so beautiful I want to draw all of them but wHERE TO START

[ammoth]

Ugh ok (not so) little vent bear with me

I’ve reached a really weird point with my art because on one hand

On one hand, I can now do linearts that I love, sketches that I love, I can do kick ass colors and imitate various art style pretty damn well, and usually, when I sit down to draw a thing, it comes out… good? It comes out like I’m picturing it, which is just kinda mind blowing when you think about it because that’s what I aspired to, that’s what artists aspire to do, take the colors in their brain and put them to paper. It doesn’t always work, but I’m… generally, I am proud of what I draw. Wow!

But

This is limited to a very specific sub-category of things that I can draw. Namely, living (or mostly living) things that are not human. Animals, plants, monsters, even part-mecha critters, you name it. I can probably draw it. Bugs? No probs. Aquatic things? sure. Flowers? HELL YEAH I love drawing flowers. But humans? And, well, to be honest, scenery and settings of any kind? Nope. No can’t do, buddy, you’re fucked. I can SOMETIMES kinda half ass a background, because I’m good at plants, and clouds, I can do those, ok, so I could probably fake that well enough. But humans?

Big ass fucking HOLE in my skillset, like, the biggest, ridiculous gaping gash in my otherwise pretty high art self-confidence and abilities. I can’t draw humans. I can’t draw their faces, I can’t draw their bodies, I really, really can’t do expressions and it’s killing me because I really, really want to? I want to draw humans, I want to draw porn ffs, I want to draw stupidly fluffy art of people cuddling, I want to draw them grinning and I want to draw them crying and I want to draw them bruised and bloody I want to put emotions to paper but I don’t fucking know how

And I feel weirdly… ungrateful because it’s like. I already have this one really cool skill. I should be proud of it. I am! But I also want this other skill. But I need to work for it? And I don’t know where to start, I know I should just… draw, and draw and draw until I get it right or learn to fake it well enough, but it’s so frustrating when I’ve already achieved this level of skill in a different area and it’s just… yeah, frustrating.

[ammoth]

Replies to the vent thing~

@xazz

Bruh humans are hard don't beat yourself up about it

My mom is an artist who sells paintings for thousands of dollars and she draws blocks with faces when it comes to people

lol, yeah, man, when we did life drawing when I was in school I left out all the faces of my classmates that I drew xD I want to learn, though, you know? It’s just frustrating having to start from ground zero when I’ve already hit level twenty something for other things. I neglected to put stat points into humans and now I REGRET       

@batcrooks

same. i understand how frustrating it is. it's so ubiquitous that it makes you feel like you just can't even do art at all

I hear you. I’ve seen you struggle with this too even though your art is gorgeous and whimsical and incredibly expressive and I seriously admire what you do. But I get it, and it’s so weird because we’ve learned this, we should know this, except we’ve only really honed a part of the skill and now the parts we haven’t mastered are rearing their ugly heads. And it’s somehow worse because… I managed to muster up the energy to power through learning this shit once already, and it was hard and frustrating and I made a lot of shit drawings, and I don’t want to go through this process again? But I’ve gotta. I will, but I need to rant about it. I’m glad I’m not alone in this, although I’m sorry you feel like this, too. We did it once, though, we can totally do it again.

@delta-hexagon

well, its time for you to start the first process over again with humans, is all. draw terrible humans over and over again like you did with everything else until it becomes beautiful. you did it once, you can do it again. you'll find your style again, this time with people, and it'll be gorgeous, just like the rest of your art you've worked so hard on. its just time to start the journey again, from a different beginning

I knowwww and thank you, Delta, you’re so nice to me and I’m glad you believe in me, because your art is ALSO kick ass and I’ve seen you grow and improve and become even more awesome. You totally did the thing. I’m just frustrated, you know? Like I said to batcrooks just above, it’s disheartening to realize you’ve gone through this shitty process of figuring out how the hell to draw a thing and now you gotta do it AGAIN. And make a lot of drawings you don’t like, AGAIN. And be frustrated and angry about things not coming out how you want them to, AGAIN. I know I can do it, I’ve done it before, but it’s… yeah, frustrating.

I’m also slightly at loss as to where to start. Starting is the hardest part, always.

I’m gonna print me a fuckton of drawings of humans from my favorite shows and artists and slap them on the wall over my desk hopefully this will motivate me to get started.

[scoutdolphin]

They took the fucking icons?????

[bnha-submas]

((Heya guys, next ask is delayed due to overbooking myself ;-; post will be up tomorrow evening!))

[bnha-submas]

Lil upate!!

((Hullo!! I've been a bit... behind on asks and I am so sorry ;-; I've been struggling with school as I am so exhausted by the time I get home that instead of going to my computer and drawing, I usually just collapse into my bed and watch youtube until I fall asleep. Even on weekends I've been just sitting and watching youtube to recharge. BUT!! Habits don't change without effort so I am making a schedule for myself!!!!))

((I will try my best to answer at least 1 ask a week every Monday AEDT as I don't have school on mondays :> So I'll see you guys tomorrow!!))

((Oh- and here's the video I made last week. These characters will have importance later :) ))