#mras

[the-mushroom-kitty]

MRA: sees a space for transfems to discuss their abuse

MRA: "how do i simultaniously victimise myself and paint trans women as violent rapists,, but wokely"

behold, the transmasc voices project

kill yourselves

[that-grassbro]

This has got to be one of the FUNNIEST things I've ever seen in my life

What PLANET are you living on that MRAS believe in 'AFAB OPPRESSION' are you stupid? Are you genuinely without a modicum of intelligence in that empty head of yours?

MRAS believe in AFAB OPPRESSION thats what we're going with??Really?? THAT?

Not to mention the fact that 'trans men can always return to being female' and 'trans men aren't real men if they're distinguishable from cis men' are TRF points. The first one is something yall say to tell trans men they're privileged for ciseness without being cis. The second is used to call us transphobes for ever daring to say we're not cis men.

But despite that...

MRAS BELIEVE IN AFAB OPPRESSION??? Yall have genuinely completely lost the fucking plot. The plot is not even in your universe. What level of losing the plot is this??

[siryouarebeingmocked]

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1csqnsz/why_do_men_feel_the_need_to_go_through_things/

Rage warning.

And yes, Katie deleted the tweet.

[certifiedsexed]

Since this is apparently needed, here's a great article by MRAs talking about misandry, here's another article, here's a more recent article by another fascist on misogyny and misandry, here's a beautiful article from the 1990s in the NYT on misandry, here's an MRA blog with history on the term misandry which shows its antifeminist uses even in the beginning.

You can also go on youtube and find many, many videos by open fascists, open MRAs and general antifeminists talking about "misandry". It is not a neutral term.

It is a term that's frequently been used not just to deny misogyny, but to claim that there is, in this patriarchial society, systems of oppression working to oppress men specifically for being men and give women power over them.

Which is not and never has been true.

When you use terms that have been claimed, repeatedly, by fascists and general antifeminists and then you claim these terms are neutral or completely acceptable to use, you become no different from people who use terms like "degenerate" against others.

You are putting people in danger by acting like using fascist terminology is acceptable, you make it easier for fascists to get into feminist spaces and you make it clear that you are, in fact, not a feminist at all.

Also, for those claiming they have "never heard" of antifeminists using terms like misandry: some of you are young and haven't been in feminist spaces long, which could be why, but I also think it's because some of you are not in feminist spaces at all.

You aren't hearing antifeminists using terms like misandry because you are surrounded by antifeminists using the term misandry and you don't recognize it.

So here's your PSA: stop fucking using it.

[butch-bakugo]

The sickening thing about the fact that transfeminists keep claiming that any acknowledgement of transandrophobia or even just any acknowledgement that trans men are oppressed/not the same as cis men/do not have male privilege/etc makes someone a (T)MRA is that they don't believe that. They don't actually believe transmascs who talk about their own oppression or who want to protect trans men from discriminatory laws are actual men's rights activists. They know that trans men aren't following that belief system and they know trans men aren't welcome in MRA spaces and they know the argument transmascs are making has nothing to do with MRAs.

I'm not gonna give them the benefit of pretending to be stupid, they are fully aware transandrophobia, and the fight to destroy it, has nothing to do with MRAs or the incel movement. They know the goals are different, they know trans men face legitimate discrimination. They fucking know these things aren't the same, it's not a genuine belief they hold because they are stupid but they aren't THAT fucking stupid. They know.

They are comparing them maliciously and we need to, genuinely, stop entertaining this distraction. We need to stop writing up big posts pointing out the differences between these movements because they know they aren't the same. We need to stop clarifying the differences because they genuinely don't need to be taught, they know, they just want to catch you up in semantics instead of talking about the actual point. Same as the people who claim trans activism is the same as pedophilia defending or Mysogny.

Those groups don't genuinely believe that, they just like to stop you up and distract you so you don't call them out for whatever they are doing to hurt you with said accusation or stop you from talking about it because you're too busy proving trans rights activism that centers trans men, or trans men's issues in general, are not the same as men's rights activism. They know they aren't the same, they know they don't have the same views, they are just trying to make you stumble to make you look stupid or score some Internet points. It's catchy and easy to throw out a bullshit accusation but it's hard to disprove it without writing an essay about the differences. That's why they do it, it's how bigots attempt to debate or how conspiracy theorists make shit up, they expect you to take the burden of proving them wrong when they need to prove why they say that on sound reasoning. They don't have to prove their beliefs to other people who already hate the group, they aren't even putting in the effort to source their accusations, so don't put in the full effort to disprove them. Just look at them and say " I'm not going to entertain baseless accusations when we both know you don't genuinely believe that.".

It's one thing to inform a genuinely uninformed person but don't be naive, transfeminists know the people fighting against transandrophobia aren't the same nor even comparable to men's rights activists, they just compare them to hurt transmascs and to justify, to themselves, why they should ignore transmascs proving them wrong. You need to either start calling them out for being disingenuous when they say it or ignore them. Stop giving them attention on shit they know isn't true but hurts you anyway.

[screamn-robo-drawin]

A very confused derg, Mras, in the forest going - Hewo who is dis?

Heh, good late fat dragon friday!

[reallypheelingit]

Happy Fat Dragon Firstdayofartfight ! Couldn't wait til Friday haha..had to start with @screamn-robo-dog 's incredible sona here :D

[u-eat-people-ur-a-people-eater]

there has never been wider/easier access to footage of the most degrading acts being done to women/girls than current year through the internet and MRAs will still claim we need to focus on helping boys and men and that there is no patriarchy or systemic issue. Trump and Biden and crew are never going to let their children be porn stars but they will defend to death the "right" of our daughters to become them.