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[siryouarebeingmocked]

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[siryouarebeingmocked]

Depending on which definition you use, the earliest known form of capitalism was dudes in caves with shiny rocks, or it started sometime between the 14th and 18th centuries.

Charles Babbage didn't create the difference engine until the 1820s. That was the distant precursor to modern computers.

Is Kris and Sam saying the original goal of capitalism is for out of touch investors to jump on a tech trend about devices that didn't exist at time time?

Because there's been a lot of those through the centuries, and capitalism is still going strong.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

[siryouarebeingmocked]

If you want to play that, let's look at the four attempts on Trump (including 2016), plus Charlie Kirk.

[shadowfromthestarlight]

[idle-drifter]

I had this little conversation last month. I don't know where they calculate the 85%. But I do get paid for my time and labor. Otherwise, I would quit. The nice thing about not owning the business. I'm not attached to any debt incurred by the owners.

[beardedmrbean]

I own a store, I pay people $20 hr to work there, if the store makes money I make money and my employees get paid $20 an hour, if the store breaks even I make no money and my employees make $20 an hour, if the store loses money I make negative money and my employees make $20 an hour. AC unit exploded, we need to replace it now, all the profits for the week are now in play replacing the AC unit, I make no money, my employees make $20 an hour.

If I make a shit ton of money I may give my employees a bonus, or I may squirrel it away for another potential store loses money time in the future.

Would my employees like to join me in the gamble of making money with the potential risk of making negative money, or would they like to be able to keep a steady stream of revenue?

[brosef-von-dudehomie]

If a guy tells you he'll give you 99¢ of every dollar you make a company but he keeps 1¢, then makes that same deal with 1,000 other people, you don't get to bitch that he's making more than you.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Profit is what you have after expenses and liabilities.

Which includes paying employees.

This isn't even remotely addressing brosef's point.

Bosses can still make more than employees even if the employees get to keep the vast majority of their "labour value".

[jardinssteve]

[the-davest-of-uncles]

When NYC's economy utterly collapses...and it's inevitable that it will...and they come to the Feds for a bailout --

They should be told no.

[yourtoradorasextendedwarranty]

Not only should they be told no, but it should be publicly broadcast by the White House the absolute failure and that is their socialist ideals. Because they can blame whoever they want to but the fingers pointed at them first and every failure that led up to it it's a lot harder for them to climb their way out.

[pussybitchasscons]

Obviously that money would be better spent on the epsteinclass

[yourtoradorasextendedwarranty]

Ah yes. Another moron that doesn't understand how economics work.

[cookingwithroxy]

Actually, it's worse. Think about it this way. The Miniapolis Day Care Scandal.

There's a system out there, actively working to aid in allowing for child care so that small families and families without support can get daycare easily so that parents can work and keep up with the cost of living.

Instead, the money was being misdirected into criminal cartels and financial scams, and few if any children were getting care. And that's just one aspect of a pretty large scandal.

And people like that yahoo responded to a thing that was taking money AWAY from kids who need care, from the sick, from the disabled, and from the dying. Money being stolen from the most vulnerable people, seized by people who only care about benefiting themselves.

Any failing system is going to fail the people in need, and benefit abusers. People like that yahoo? Do not care about those people in need, who will have less support and aid in their times of trial.

They only say they do to feel smug about themselves. They care far more about tallying up points for some kind of political scorecard than about people actually in need.

[pointingatretards]

Yeah I definitely care less about poor people than mr "I dont trust Muslims" yourtoradorasextendedwarranty over there.

You're actually so fucking retarded it's sad.

[cookingwithroxy]

Buddy.

When presented with even the concept of poor people having systems fail them, your immediate response is instead to attack others for not sharing your morals.

If your response to 'this is a bad thing' is to immediately attempt to change the fucking subject AWAY from the bad thing? You don't actually care about the bad thing.

[pointingatretards]

Omfg you're pathetic

[cookingwithroxy]

Again, making a very notable point here.

You are, even as of this moment, unwilling to acknowledge that tax dollars were spent, not to support the community or the downtrodden but were rather diverted to serve other people's greed?

This is very much the point here, that you seriously do not actually give a fuck where the money is spent, or if people in need get the support they need, nearly as much as posturing your pretended moral superiority over others.

You've done NOTHING to prove that you think any other way.

[pointingatretards]

Sorry if im not taking a post that looks like this seriously lmao

[cookingwithroxy]

It's understandable, that fucking image and and it's source is rather a joke.

But you don't take any of this seriously. When presented with serious details, you still insist, EVEN NOW, to refuse to actually consider the point being made.

It's not a big thing to even note! All you had to do in order to prove me wrong was to once, even ONCE, respond with 'we shouldn't allow tax money to be diverted from those in need'.

You had three chances. You squandered all of them. Now it's too late, because I literally spelled out the ONE thing that would have made you NOT look like what you are.

Someone who cares more about political points than anything else.

[cookingwithroxy]

You know what? Fuck it, that idiot's not worth replying to but I'll make another addendum.

Thing being told in dumb AI MEME form is that the original planned child care fund was proposed to be at 4.5 billion. Now, the actual price tag has raised to 11.8 billion, because they keep tacking on more things to it, and grabbing more funding across the state.

This is a concern, because government programs like this, that are formed quickly and balloon quickly tend to have project drift and to be less than selective in how they place that funding.

Source is a joke, but the concern is real.

[throwitonthepilethesecond]

not that guy but if their concern is "the money ends up with The Poor, no matter if they're fraudulent or not" and/or "taxation is clawing back the wealth stolen (definitionally) by the rich, not maximizing it is allowing the poor/working to be stolen from without recompense" then it is perfectly cromulent as a position

i think it is at minimum "motivated by spite" in either case, but it is self-consistent

[cookingwithroxy]

That could be a position, but considering their actual responses? Well, as I pointed out, when offered the chance to care even the least bit about where the money spent?

They chose instead to attack someone.

It's hard to argue 'they are motivated by tax based punishment' as a framing when their actual position seems to be 'they are motivated by making hideously inaccurate personal attacks'.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

They're motivated by trying to distract from any given criticism of the left in any way, and to get a rise out of "right-wingers" (defined here as anyone criticizing the left, ever).

They are just a distraction troll.

[mitchipedia]

[narukorankofan]

A hilarious way to frame "don't attack cops and you won't get shot"

[sunder-the-gold]

Coming from the same people who would call the cops immediately to come protect them from criminals or to retrieve their stolen property.

[mambobignaturals]

[sunder-the-gold]

Do you, by any chance, live in a Democrat-run city or state where judges let thieves go without bail or trial, so that the police know that trying to do their job won’t matter?

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Don't feed the (sad, pathetic) troll.

[hamstergetten]

If we were hostages you couldn't criticize the damned cops, mock them, and sometimes call for them to be killed, the acab folks would be constantly being visited by the police all the time. Living in a free democracy does not mean never to ever have to listen to other people. Know your rights, do not let cops violate them, but for heavens sake stop acting like a cop telling you to put your hands behind your head when they catch you trying to trespass into someones property as some evil act of oppression. It's not hard to not put your hands in your pockets.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Heck, in 2020, government officials were openly giving BLM rioters passes.

Not to mention how "act sensibly so you are less likely to get hurt by other people" is very common life advice, even when it doesn't involve cops.

These people just invent a rationale from thin air because they'd rather let people die than admit anyone other than the cops bore even the slightest bit of responsibility for a situation.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that particular troll once outright lied about cops being visually identifiable by pretending the blurry low-res ID patches on video were blurry IRL.

Not to mention their general tactic of "never admitting a single person on the left has ever been wrong".

[mitchipedia]

[narukorankofan]

A hilarious way to frame "don't attack cops and you won't get shot"

[sunder-the-gold]

Coming from the same people who would call the cops immediately to come protect them from criminals or to retrieve their stolen property.

[mambobignaturals]

[sunder-the-gold]

Do you, by any chance, live in a Democrat-run city or state where judges let thieves go without bail or trial, so that the police know that trying to do their job won’t matter?

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Don't feed the (sad, pathetic) troll.

[mambobignaturals]

Noticing you chose to respond to this one and not the one with examples of people getting brutalized by the police.

Interesting

[siryouarebeingmocked]

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[mitchipedia]

[narukorankofan]

A hilarious way to frame "don't attack cops and you won't get shot"

[sunder-the-gold]

Coming from the same people who would call the cops immediately to come protect them from criminals or to retrieve their stolen property.

[mambobignaturals]

[sunder-the-gold]

Do you, by any chance, live in a Democrat-run city or state where judges let thieves go without bail or trial, so that the police know that trying to do their job won’t matter?

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Don't feed the (sad, pathetic) troll.

[sunder-the-gold]

Jesus did warn against throwing pearls in front of swine. When someone is already so obviously set against your message, it does no good to point out they're wrong. If they were approaching the issue with a mind open to change, they wouldn't speak as though the matter were already settled.

It's just so sad to watch them march eagerly into a hell of their own making. And worse, because a hell on earth is one we have to suffer with them.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Sometimes disagreeing can show onlookers how your opposition is wrong.

In this case, it's just an obvious troll, so why even bother?

[generallemarc]

A magnitude 7.4 earthquake has hit Colombia, with a known death toll of 111 that will undoubtedly rise

Here are all the direct links to help that I could find. If you know of a major organization like the Red Cross that would usually send aid to these situations, they'll likely have a page up no more than a day or two after I post this(August 10th), but right now I'm only linking to pages that have donation links specifically to help with search and rescue/aiding survivors for this disaster. The charities are:

Convoy of Hope

Catholic Relief Services

DirectRelief

UNICEF USA

@otakuvampyre @siryouarebeingmocked @beardedmrbean @al-not-dead @apintofguinness1 requesting signal boost

[siryouarebeingmocked]

psa

[sunbound-photo]

Repaired this COOLPIX S3000 which had a cracked gear in the autofocus motor. This was once a family camera my mom gave me, together with a couple other old digicams we’d had over the years.

After getting the new gear in, cleaning the sensor & rear lens element well, and reassembling everything, I then took it out for a spin to see how well it worked.

So far, so good. It’s not the fastest (early 2010) and still can’t quite lock on properly in low light or at certain distances, but it’s focusing much more efficiently than before.

Another fun project that I may bring out from time to time, if I’m feeling like a vintage digicam look.

[mitchipedia]

[narukorankofan]

A hilarious way to frame "don't attack cops and you won't get shot"

[sunder-the-gold]

Coming from the same people who would call the cops immediately to come protect them from criminals or to retrieve their stolen property.

[mambobignaturals]

[sunder-the-gold]

Do you, by any chance, live in a Democrat-run city or state where judges let thieves go without bail or trial, so that the police know that trying to do their job won’t matter?

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Don't feed the (sad, pathetic) troll.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

"Its like how they make cop shows and movies where the criminals are all Machivellian geniuses to make police seem more competent. "

Many shows and movies are specifically about catching the criminal geniuses that regular cops can't.

And very often (EG CSI, Bones) the criminal is pretty normal, it's just hard to figure out what happened.

House MD doesn't make medicine complicated to make doctors look better. If it's a cop like Harry Bosch, cold cases are complicated by time. Bosch doesn't (just) succeed because he's smart, he succeeds because he's persistent, and often breaks Da Rulez.

Which has gotten himself and others hurt and killed.

Also, who wants to see "oh, the husband was found with the murder weapon in his hand, standing over the body, and he was caught in 4K stabbing his wife. Case closed. "?

What will you fill the other 39 minutes with?

Writers have to complicate the plots to make them entertaining.

There's also plenty of complex mysteries where the investigator is not a cop, or even a private detective, technically. And the real cops will go "drop the case". Several times.

Fincher's "Zodiac" focuses on journalists, and some of their lives get wrecked by the case.

Robert Graysmith lost his wife and the kids. And wasn't even a reporter! He was a cartoonist!

And there are several famous mystery works where the answer turned out to be SIMPLER than the investigators thought.

Very often in mysteries, there's a moment where the investigators realize there was something simple they overlooked the whole time. Maybe they rush to stop the bad guy and barely make it in time.

They can't make the cops hyper-competent without losing drama. Which is always ignored.

Bottom line: This is a stupid claim made up by the sort of people who call everything with cops "copaganda".

[aardvarkingmad]

Yeah, even if most criminals are stupid, stories about catching stupid criminals are boring. The only way to make it interesting is the way Colombo did it. (Note: I'm not saying the criminals Colombo caught were stupid...though they did have a real tendency to overthink their schemes. They were clever.) Colombo pretty much *immediately* zeroes in on the guilty party (just as would happen with a stupid criminal), but the show is all about how he dances around the bad guy, often for days, slowly and methodically picking apart his oh-so-clever ruse to avoid being found out, until he finally demonstrates that he knows exactly how it was done, and can prove it, and arrests the guy.

Also, real world cops with even just a few years on the job, will have VASTLY more experience dealing with suspects, ferreting out lies, and manipulating the suspect into incriminating himself, than most suspects will ever have trying to talk their way out of trouble. The cops do this EVERY DAY. The suspects, frequently, have little or no experience trying to lie to the cops. Or they do have it, because they're long-time criminals, and the cops are probably aware of that fact, and so even more suspicious of their lies even if they're practiced liars.

So we get stories about clever criminals because they're more interesting. Generally. I personally am sick to death of the genius serial killer trope, who is always three steps ahead of the cops until the last minute.

[baygeethefirst]

I was on a grand jury once, and the FA came in to speak to us a few times. One of the things he said was that TV and movies make it seem like murders and kidnappings and rapes are these huge mysteries, but in real life, the actual murderer/kidnapper/rapist is, more often than not, exactly the person most likely to have done it. More often than not, the actual culprit makes so many stupid mistakes that there's abundant evidence and plentiful holes in their story.

[aardvarkingmad]

I've been on grand juries twice. Once in Virginia for a day (technically, two weeks, but it was a small rural county) and for two weeks in Portland, OR a few years ago. We saw everything from passing bad checks to murder cases, with LOTS of auto thefts in Portland (apparently druggies will break into cars for a private place to shoot up and sleep off the high, trash the car in the process, and then abandon it--they don't drive it anywhere, but it's still auto theft). And, as a grand jury, we only ever hear the prosecution's case, since we're there to determine whether there's enough evidence to go to trial. I think we only rejected a few charges the whole two weeks (and even then only one or two of several charges for an individual, so they were still going to trial on others).

I've also served on a criminal trial. The accused broke into a house in search of drugs. After shooting out the sliding glass door onto the backyard balcony. They a) apparently had the wrong house, and b) claimed they fired in self-defense, but I believe that one of them had an accidental discharge of the gun he was carrying, and they saw the muzzle flash REFLECTED IN THE GLASS DOOR (it was dark at the time), which shattered, and they panicked. One of the idiots obviously made a deal to inform on his buddies, but when he was on the stand, he hemmed and hawed and completely failed to provide any useful testimony. Finally the DA ended the questioning, saying to him, "And I'll be talking to YOU later." I suspect he lost his deal.

[enbaluka-tokyo-drift]

[rebel-hunk-enjoyer]

The worst-sounding piece of advice I've ever been given that does actually work is to frame your health concerns as coming from someone close to you, whom you do not believe. Tell your doctor that you've been having pain and your mom/friend/partner thinks it might be an ovarian cyst, but you don't think so because the pain is much more intense and it has to be something else. This gives your doctor an unseen third party to fight instead of you. They can't just tell this third party, who isn't present, that you pulled a muscle, they now need to prove to this third party that it is not an ovarian cyst.

At which point they will find an ovarian cyst, but they now get whatever fucked up satisfaction they derive out of proving you wrong, because you didn't believe it could a cyst at all, but guess what? They did find a cyst! It's such a good thing you didn't listen to your intuition and came to them to verify your lay diagnosis from that third party! Bonus? Doctor doesn't have to feel like they look stupid in front of a patient, which is really what all this is about. Not your health, why would you think your medical diagnosis is about your health? It's obviously about a doctor's potential ego.

And apparently this works. Apparently you just need to be able to always play 4D chess with your medical professionals in order to find an avenue of advocating for yourself and getting you medical needs met. Isn't that great?

I hate it here, actually.

[hst3000]

...How the hell are you guys talking to your doctors.

I've never had a doctor try and 'beat' me like this, and I'm not even sure HOW I would convey 'I think it might be X' in such a way that their agreement would even come close to making them feel stupid.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

There's also liability concerns and professional guidelines they have to deal with.

[switch-up-snowfox]

There is a suprising amount of times that i've seen instances of doctors almost willfully ignoring all patient concerns to just shove them out of the door as fast as possible. I know two personally; my mother's GP refused to hear her out on the fact that she's dealing with chronic pain that hasn't gone away for months and just kept telling her "if you're in pain, go to the ER" despite the point that an ER is not going to be able to help Chronic problems. She had to ask her neurologist before anyone would do the basic tests to figure out what's wrong.

The second one is a friend who's in severe pain and had a full blown seizure that left her in a state where she couldn't walk and had trouble with one side of her body in pain, and the ER said "you have syncopy" and said that if she wants to have a scan to check inside her head to rule out stuff like stroke, brain tumors, brain bleed, and then told her to get an appointment with a specialist where the only available time is in december. that she would be DEAD by then for at least two of those seemed to be caught by no-one in the ER except her.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Yikes.

[estocadaa]

The Martian is a literary masterpiece.

[thec8h10n4o2]

Yep

[hst3000]

I always find it amusing that the movie opted to end in a way that the book EXPLICITLY called out as too stupid for even Watney to try.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Apparently it was done so he could actually participate in his own rescue to a greater degree.

[abandoned-as-mustard]

… so how did the book end

[siryouarebeingmocked]

He nearly overshoots, but the Ares team on the spaceship slows the ship down spacewalks to get him.

Also, book Mark said if this were a movie, they'd all high-five in the airlock. In the movie...

[h4ganah]

Just imagine facing outrage from parents because their kids have to learn about the Holocaust in your school.

And your response is to publically apologise to them.

[emmaubler]

[generallemarc]

There is no way that what was said in that email actually happened. They tried to have their cake and eat it too, to say they did nothing wrong by teaching historical reality(they didn't) but also validate the hurt feelings of parents who think said reality is Jewish propaganda. If you don't think your child is "heard" when they learn about objective facts, that's your problem to fix and not the school's.