As you so wisely said, “porqué no los dos”? BUCKLE UP, HERE WE GO.
Kou (aka, my sweet summer child)
Headcanon A, Realistic:-Kou is probably one of the best, if not the best, older brothers in the series. I say best because he doesn’t abandon his young sibling after killing their mother (JIEN). He would do literally anything for Lirin and honestly probably did most of the raising her with Doku and Yaone to help babysit. He absolutely adores her and probably honestly is the kind to put up with her tea parties whenever he’s home. And I think he learned all of that caring from his mother. He’s a great brother.
Headcanon B, unrealistic but hilarious:-He’s terrible at bowling because /nails/. I also imagine he’s really good at dancing and acrobatics, which we see some of but he does tend to summon more, just. Because. These are domestic and probably not the most unrealistic but. Also related to the above, I am 100% certain lirin has braided his hair on multiple occasions. And given him flower crowns. Because she loves him. And he puts up with it because he loves her. Which is ok probably realistic but it is hilarious. You’re welcome.
Headcanon C, heart-crushing but fun:-He’s going to lose everything and everyone. Heh. HEH. But Other than that, I do headcanon that he actually has a lot of trouble adjusting to the modern world, and that’s probably part of why he misses his mom so much. Everything and everyone he knew is different and probably dead now, because it’s been 500 years. At the end of the day, he’s a very lost boy who woke up pretty young (my estimate is somewhere in his teens) with the whole world changed and the one thing he loves sealed away. So there’s your dose of feels that isn’t the ending theory I feel like I’ve beat to death.
Headcanon D, fuck canon, I do what I want:-I mean. I would still say technically I will accept what Minekura says is canon even if I hate it, but I do have one. I am almost 100% convinced that Nii/Ukoku was the one to unseal Kou. And my proof are those bunny slippers we see him wearing when he first meets Dokugakuji. Those are Nii’s slippers. So I very much believe that Kou was naked, and Nii dressed him until he could find clothes for himself. Minekura would be hard-pressed to convince me otherwise, if she even said anything about it later. It was Nii, he dressed Kou, that is the only answer I will accept until proven otherwise.
Gojyo (My BOI)
Headcanon A, Realistic:-Gojyo has an addictive personality. Which. Is close to canon but I don’t recall Minekura ever addressing it directly as such. But the cigarettes, booze, gambling, sex, are all addictions that he clearly gets attached to as a coping mechanism. So I think when presented with other things that are meant to be addictive, he would probably latch onto them, and struggle with balance a lot. Sometimes I’m not entirely convinced he likes them /as/ much as he says he does, or if he likes them an average amount, but has become so used to them he thinks he needs them. (For instance, how he’s actually backed off a lot of the sex talk as the series went on, and though he still makes jokes and comments, and is just a flirty dude, he isn’t nearly as fixated on it as he used to be, because he hasn’t really had a chance to partake since starting the journey.)
Headcanon B, unrealistic but hilarious:-Not unrealistic, but still hilarious, that Gojyo is actually a poser. He thinks he’s a super hardcore villain, but really he’s kind of a puppy on the inside. He’s a badass compared maybe to the average joe, but literally everyone else in the group is more hardcore than him, intentionally or not. Sanzo is metal as fuck and absolutely ruthless, Hakkai is terrifying, Goku is Goku and could suckerpunch you through the wall on accident, and Gojyo probably listens to Nickelback and thinks he’s a Tough Guy. While not so secretly being a giant baby.
Headcanon C, heart-crushing but fun:-I suspect that at some point between the time of Jien leaving and when we see Gojyo in the Burial/Be There arcs, he underwent some form of sexual abuse or even child prostitution. At that age, to feed himself and get a roof over his head, there aren’t exactly a lot of options, and he would have been super vulnerable to boot. His addiction to sex in “Be There,” when he’s still pretty young (I think about what, 18 or 19?) suggests to me he was doing it for a very long time before that. And his general ambivilence to it I think is probably a coping mechanism, influenced both by what he saw Jien doing, and things that happened to him later. It got him by. And he has an addictive personality in general. I also suspect his clients would have been both men and women, probably kind of seedy types, so when he could choose, he made sure they were people that were pretty and non-threatening, as a form of exercising control over his life, in a small way.
Headcanon D, fuck canon, I do what I want:-Honestly I feel like all of the above kind of apply here, tbh, haha. Especially the heart-crushing one, but to end on a light note… I actually kind of think of Gojyo as a bit country. I know Minekura labeled him as a city-boy, but I picture him as like. Growing up in a small town, and wanting to be super city, and obviously not being a fan of literally any part of rugged life. But he’s also not a big city boy. He’s a small town boy.
Shady birbs showdown: Shitty Crow or Weed Eagle (aka Ukoku or Sai Tai Sai)?
I love Ukoku but oh god, I feel like he’s be AMAZING at pleasuring someone, but then you gotta worry if he’s using you for something. We all know who he trulu desires.
Sai Tai Sai is a bit of a mystery, but I doubt we have two shady birbs, I think he’d be super chill, but be vague as hell because he’s always high. But at least I wouldn’t need to sleep with one eye open at night.
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Fyi: When Taruchie talked about Maten's former holder, she wasn't referring to Koumyou, but Tenkai. The Maten sutra was originally his. It was much more clear in the manga where they actually showed an image of him when Taruchie was speaking which they cut out of the anime, leading to understandable confusion. Just wanted to point that out, other than that super fun reactions^^
OHHH, I think I got confused and thought she was talking about the Seiten scripture. Or the subtitles got it wrong, but more than likely it was just my mistake. ^^;
Jaaaaaaae~! Hey~! Thanks for sending us this ask~! I hope you’re doing well!
❀ Jojo’s Answers ❀:
I’m just gonna go on a head and assume this is for the Saiyuki Fandom!
02. Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?* Goku x Ikkou will always be just a BroTP to me. :P
04. Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP?* Genjo/Goku, Konzen/Goku, Koumyou/Genjo, Ukoku/Kami, basically anything akin to a familial bond I will not ship; not sure if they’re popular though.
20. What is the purest ship in the fandom? Probably Goku and Pippi.22. Popular character you hate?I don’t hate anyone in Saiyuki, although I found Homura absolutely boring.
23. Unpopular character you love?TENJIN. and I also have deep love for Mr.Souzin. my dearest KFC man… they’re both bird related aren’t they? I don’t usually like birds-
26. Most shippable character?Ukoku. Though everything is crack and silly
27. Least shippable character?Genjo. I don’t have a single ship with him.
❀ Nimo’s answers ❀ :
2. Because it’s you my thoughts went straight to Saiyuki so I’ll answer with that in mind~! Hmmm…popular OTP that I BrOTP? The words OTP/BrOTP made me think of Gojyo and Hakkai but they’re my number one in both sections so it can’t be helped! But…Goku and Genjo, I guess? I don’t know how popular it is but I’ve seen a lot of doujin of those two and I can’t bring myself to ship them at all, hahaha.
4. I actually didn’t remember if I had a NOTP until I read Jojo’s answer, there, I said it. Really I’m with her on the ‘can’t bring myself to ship anything familial’ thing. Again, I’ve only really seen doujin of them so I guess it’s sort of popular? Well, not Koumyou/Gen, though, hahaha….I think?
20. The purest ship in the fandom? Gojyo and Hakkai. So pure, so wonderful, utterly wholesome. It fills my heart with joy and will bring humanity together, I’m sure. ;v;
22. Popular character I hate…? Hahahaha, man this is hard because I tend to push hated characters faaaar back into my mind but…honestly! The only Saiyuki character I can truly hate is ZOURYOU. HOW DARE HE TRY TO DROWN MY SON, GENKAI? But I highly doubt he’s popular so…no one. I used to really dislike Homura but Jojo and I cracked so many jokes about him that he just makes me laugh now.
23. Unpopular character I love…you know I wonder how unpopular the Ibun boys are? I want to pick one of them but they’re all really lovable…! Maybe I’ll try picking someone unpopular among them [[though it’s hard to imagine someone being unpopular with them, tbh]]? I’ll go with Puku then! He’s really adorable, hahaha. And honestly I was surprised to find out he had silver hair! Same as Hazel, and they’re both Westerners…is silver hair common for Westerners in Saiyuki? Curious!26. Gojyo!! I have an overwhelming bias and love for the antenna man, I honestly think you could pair him up with anyone and it’d still be amazing~!
27. …least shippable…honestly, probably Genkai. I’m sorry, Genkai! I keep seeing you as a baby despite you being a grown man! I’d also add Nataku and possibly Goku to that list but Goku had that one kiss so I guess he’s sort of shippable, but yeah, I keep seeing them as children so I can’t really ship them. x’D
[[…the ask went wonky when I posted it, sorry! Also sorry for taking a while to answer this! Hahaha, it was on me, Jojo answered it real quick. x’) ]]
(IM SORRY THIS IS 8 YEARS LATE but hurricane, we all know the drill |D better late than never with the fun memes and stuff.)
overall: who? / i hate them / i dislike them / kinda wanna fight them / they’re alright / i like them / i love them / *accidentally drops thousands of pictures of them opinion: again, who??? / the purest bean / cinnamon roll / who knows really / sinnamon roll / the problematic fav otp(s): Hakkai/Gojyo and Sanzo/Gojyo. Yes 2 otps. (No one is surprised because I am trash) other ship(s): Hakkai/Sanzo/Gojyo threesome because I am the sinnamon roll. Also maybe sometimes a bit of hateful Kami/Gojyo. But I mean I’m into seeing Gojyo fuck a lot of people not gonna lie. Also technically Ukoku/Gojyo but that probably doesn’t count if I would read Ukoku fucking almost anyone. (And we all know the consent issues there….) #noromo ship(s): Gojyo/Goku. I really only see them as brother types. (With the exception of the Ikkou foursome porn I’ve been reading look it’s still not romantic it’s sexy shut up) crack ship(s): does wanting to see Gojyo/Kou make out and have sex count because there was that one fanart….. fav headcanon(s): does always making him a bartender in modern AUs count as a headcanon? Also uh…. that he’s super caring in bed and always makes sure to get his partner off. And that he might secretly be a bit of a romantic when he finds the right person. Uhm uhm uhm I think there’s more but I cannot remember all of them. Maybe that he’s more flexible in bed than he lets on? I kinda headcanon him as having a strong preference for women but if push came to shove and say, Hakkai or Sanzo (or the rare dude he finds attractive) were to proposition him he’d have no issue saying yes. A lot of these turned out romantic, oops.
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Fictional character is... Jyoan (I'm sorry lol) Btw he's voiced by Tetsuya Kakihara in the drama, but since you seem pretty knowledeable about american VAs I'd be interested in seeing if you can find one fitting for him :')
I had to take a bit of time for this because I had to think of a voice but I think I have sort of an idea now so, HERE WE GO.
1) fight them or fight for them-both. Like I would sass the shit out of him. But also no one gets to pick on him but me.
2) on a scale of 1-10 how excited do I get when I see them-like a 7? This is a hard question to answer because like when does jyoan show up ever. I kinda just get excited for Ibun in general but what is new content…. //stares into the abyss/ (I feel like this would bump up to a 10 if it was new minekura content tho. Above a 10. Just… Ibun….)
3) would i smooch-I feel like he is probably way too gay for me (both for him to be interested in anything I have to offer and for me to feel the same). It like I would smooch him on the cheek. Definitely a cheek smooch.
4) have I drawn/written about them/should i draw/write about them-Not yet, but working on it. The sass master needs more love. (And like not gonna lie kinda want a Koumyou/Jyoan au where they raise sanzo together because I can’t not notice the similarity in their sassy expressions and I need. And that’s not what the question is asking but I answer how I want.)
5) voice HC if they don’t have a voice already-this one was actually pretty hard, and I couldn’t track down the Ibun cds on YouTube, but just listening to the Japanese VA’s other work and what I know of Jyoan, from sound alone I think Todd Haberkorn could potentially pull it off. He has a similar seeming timbre and he has a great emotional range so I feel like it would be interesting to hear him try. But there are also many more VAs that could probably fill the role, just of the ones I’m most familiar with…
I wanted to ask more than one but the ask form SUCKS and doesn't let me start a new line gah! Oh well. First one I'm gonna send is Koumyou/Ukoku :3
🙂 - it’s getting there, but I can’t very well call it an otp when I don’t actively search it out super often (but it’s like a secondary “yes I ship this it’s almost canon” so I mean... halfway there)
