After making my Garmadon AMV I noticed that Garmadon and Jay don't get along, yet are always talking to each other. They are sitting next to each other throughout ToE and are always the two engaged in intellectual debates. I think Garmadon and Jay have more friendly tension than Garm and Kai, and Kai got his true potential over giving up the notion he was destined to fight Garmadon.
Don't believe me? Here's a run down of their conversations from the Wiki transcripts.
JAY: Any minute, this place is gonna blow. We have to get out of here.
GARMADON: Not without my son!
The Day of the Great Devourer
GARMADON: Give me the weapons. I am the only one who can handle the power of all four weapons at once. It's the only thing that'll defeat the Devourer.
JAY: Uh, I thought we were supposed to do everything in our power not to let him possess the weapons.
JAY: (Giving him the Nunchucks of Lightning) Uh, I don't think this needs to be said, but we're gonna need these back.
GARAMADON: (Chuckles) I'll do my part. You just make sure he stays in one spot. (He laughs and runs away.)
JAY Stays in one spot? Stays in one spot!? How are we supposed to do that?
The Legacy of The Green Ninja
Jay is offended about Garmadon getting credited for their victory TWICE in two different episodes!
JAY: Maybe we can get a hero discount. After all, we are the Ninja who saved the city.
PATTY KEYS: I thought Lord Garmadon saved the city.
JAY: Look, pal, we're the guys that just saved the city from that giant snake. (I know it was technically Cole, but it was Jay who said it in the animation and transcript so??)
DARETH: Ha! Am I looking at Lord Garmadon? Because unless I'm stupid, and I'm not, Lord Garmadon destroyed the Devourer.
JAY: Hehe. That's been a huge misunderstanding. Actually, we were the ones who dest—
The Art of The Silent Fist
He takes great pleasure in Jay getting hurt twice in this episode.
Yet Jay is the first one to comfort Garmadon when he sees the techno blade
GARMADON: Brother, do you remember when both of us were on the same team?
JAY: Uh, hey, yeah, old timers, mind paying attention? We're trying to save the world here!
He cares little about Jay's sensitivities...
And he roasts him directly a few minutes later
So Jay sasses him back...
GARMADON: I swore to never return
JAY: You know, you should never swear. It's a sign of weak verbal skills
This episode is full of Garmadon sternly correcting Jay
JAY: So this is the house that noodles built. Ha! Always wanted to go to a red carpet event.
GARMADON: Chen lives like a king. Here, he's totally self-sufficient. The only way on or off this island is with his permission, which you have to earn.
GARMADON: When I was your age, I sought a darker means of guidance. He taught me to win at all cost, no matter who I hurt. It wasn't until you saved me that I saw the light.
JAY: Uh, apparently he also never taught you to have a sense of humor. Lighten up, we're in an underground fight club. This is supposed to be fun.
Another jibe at Jay's casual nature...
JAY: Ah, just what this place needs. Creepy clowns!
GARMADON: Not clowns. Kabuki, Chen's jesters.
But he is also the one comforting his overthinking mind alot
JAY: Arrgh, it's killing me. What's under the trapdoor? What happens when you lose?
GARMADON: Don't think about that.
JAY: It's all I can think about. I moved on. I feel guilt. These are not good feelings.
He does this same thing again next episode...
GARMADON: You can't undo what's been done. My only advice is to be at peace with it.
JAY: Peace? One of us has to lose! Oh, my gosh. It's totally gonna be me. He's got super strength and what do I have? Quick, tell me! What do I have!?
Here's the two once again willingly siting next to each other.
Garmadon shuts down Jay's sarcasm again...
JAY: What ever happened to "we fight as one?"
GARMADON: This isn't a vote, Jay. This is stopping the end of our world as we know it.
GARMADON: Absolutely nothing :)
(yes even he and oni garm are at cheeky odds)
Garmadon and Jay are both, for lack of a better word, Rude. Not that they mean to be, but they are both very outspoken about what they believe in and they are confident enough to call out BS when they see it. They both are very analytical and this is also where the two differ greatly.
Garmadon looks at a situation, sees what can be done within the situation and can command others to the plan of action but Jay is much less direct. Jay is an overthinker and although both Garmadon and Jay are pessimistic, Garmadon's pessimism comes from experience whilst Jay’s from overthinking the outcomes. Garmadon looks for more what can be done NOW while Jay thinks about all the ways the future will be affected, leaving the two at odds on how to solve a situation.
Jay also copes with stress much differently than Garmadon. He tries to add lightheartedness into moments that may not typically welcome it and is laid back when it comes to situations he doesn’t try to fully understand. Garmadon doesn’t like this attitude. He’s much more serious and disregards this typically as stupid or ignorant.
Since I was curious I looked into Myers Briggs 16 personalities for the two and came up with Jay as an ENTP (debater) and Garmadon as an ENTJ (Commander), both stubborn analytical types so It makes perfect sense the two would be at odds quite often.
Bit of a strange topic but when you notice some of your favorite characters trash talking each other a lot you gotta point it out and write an essay about it right??
