"I asked chatgp-" well I asked Nohadon and he just shared me a loaf of bread, no answer to my question but that bread was really good tho

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"I asked chatgp-" well I asked Nohadon and he just shared me a loaf of bread, no answer to my question but that bread was really good tho
The Way of Kings
while i was speedruning through stormlight archive for the first time all of this nohadon being dalinar’s blorbo stuff really reminded me of that other guy… well you know the guy who wrote that one super popular self insert fic.
so here we have a partial redrawing of Dante And Virgil In Hell 1850. Painted by William-Adolphe Bouguereau.
this all started as a silly idea to make a quick stormlight archive themed master study, something i could pull in 2-3 days max. of course in a process i’ve decided to make it a full piece and it took me approximately 2 weeks to finish 💀.
close-up:
Stormlight Characters vs. the Ship of Theseus Paradox
[This post contains jokes that are WAT Spoilers!!]
The "Ship of Theseus paradox" poses the following conundrum: If there's this ship, and gradually over time every single part of it is replaced, is the resulting vehicle still the Ship of Theseus, or is it something totally new? If Cosmere characters were posed this question, here is how they might reply!
1. Kaladin: Fighting for his life to relate it to Therapy somehow
Kaladin: W-Well, I would say that it's a good thing to gradually replace parts of you that are damaged with new parts that are not damaged. Kaladin: It's a way to get stronger, or else you won't be able to weather future storms. Kaladin: You're still you, though. The broken parts don't define you! Kaladin: [Looks hopefully at Szeth] Szeth: [With infinite weariness] Let me guess. I am the ship. Kaladin: Another win for Therapy!
2. Nale: Just kinda likes to argue
Nale: It is a different ship. None of the original material remains. Kaladin: But- Nale: If every time a board was replaced, it was used to construct another ship, and the two ships were placed side by side, would you say that they were BOTH the Ship of Theseus? Kaladin: Well- Nale: No. Because two ships cannot be one ship. That is not how counting works. Kaladin: ... Nale: I am so good at arguing.
3. Nohadon: Oh, you know he's gonna relate it to a man's "journey"
Nohadon: Every experience we have changes us. Nohadon: Old beliefs are challenged, lost, and changed. Nohadon: In the end, if we've been deconstructed and rebuilt, are we still the same person? Nohadon: It is not for me to answer. Dalinar: ...You can answer it. We are literally posing the question to you in the hopes of receiving an answer. Nohadon: Ha ha! Nohadon: That's not how I roll.
4. Dalinar: Takes the question personally
Dalinar: No, it is not the same ship. And that is okay. Dalinar: It is okay if, at the end of your journey, you are a different man--I mean ship. Navani: Smooth.
5. Rlain: Takes the question personality
Rlain: We Listeners go out into the storm to change forms all the time. Rlain: We're still us. Rlain: I don't see why it would be any different for a ship.
6. Shallan: Takes the question personally
Shallan: I think it's the same ship. Shallan: Even if you change everything about yourself to the extent that you are a different person, you are, simultaneously, still yourself. Shallan: Every new board is incorporated into the ship and becomes a part of it, even if they were once their own separate item. Veil: ...We love you too, Shallan.
7. Renarin: Gives a conditional answer
Renarin: I mean...I think it depends on the timing? Renarin: If your ship goes down in a storm and you just build a whole new ship and give it the same name, I don't think anybody would say that's the same ship. Renarin: But if you replace a board every year or something, then I think it would be perceived as the same ship the whole time. Taravangian [suspiciously]: So you're saying that your answer depends on a future that cannot be predicted in advance? Renarin: I...guess? Taravangian: Hate that.
8. Honor: Gives the "practical" answer
Honor: At the beginning and at the end, it's still the ship of Theseus, right? Honor: Same ship. Possession is 9/10 of the law, after all. Odium: ...Sweet. Gonna hold you to that. Honor: FUCK
9. Rysn: Actually has a ship
Rysn: Of course it's the same ship?? Rysn: I get my boat repaired all the time--it's not like it ever ceases to be my ship.
10. Jasnah: Knows where to look for the truth of things
Jasnah: There is a simple way to answer that question. Jasnah: Peer into Shadesmar at the soul of the ship. Jasnah: If it continues to think of itself as the same entity, then it is the same entity. Renarin: ...Simple? You are virtually the only human on the planet with this ability. Jasnah: I'll share my findings.
11. Wit: Takes a storyteller's view
Wit: If people call it the Ship of Theseus & perceive it as the Ship of Theseus, that's what it is! Wit: Is it the original ship? Who cares! Wit: For once, originality is not the point.
12. Design: Takes a...mathematical (?) view
Design: The second that 50.000000001 percent of the ship has been replaced, it's different. Design: Math!
13. Moash: Is not a nice person
Moash: Don't care. Moash: Gonna take all of the old, broken parts that got thrown away and build a whole new ship out of those cast-off parts. Moash: Now *I* have the ship of Theseus. Kaladin: Just to be kind of a bastard? Moash: Just to be kind of a bastard, yeah.
14. Navani: Takes a scientific view
Navani: There is a theory that the matter that makes up our bodies is itself replaced constantly. Navani: Wounds close over--skin can grow. It must get replaced as it wears out. Navani: The ship is the macro version of this. Even if bits of it get replaced, it's still the same ship.
15. Adolin: Relates it to...recent experiences
Adolin: Here's what I think. Adolin: Let's say that you're in the army and you're trying to, I don't know, protect a dome for many days without reinforcements. Adolin: And everybody keeps dying and getting replaced by new soldiers, until you're having to bring in the elderly, the disabled, literally anybody still alive in the city just to maintain the pike wall. Adolin: It's! Still! The! Same! Army! Adolin: Same ship. Yanagawn: Are you...okay? Adolin: I might have trauma.
I felt so excited when Hoid talked about Nohadon in Isles of the Emberdark you'd think my name is Dalinar.
And then it hit Dalinar. Tien was Kaladin's Nohadon.
dalinar, guy who is sooo normal about nohadon
ExCUSE me?! Nohadon is talking DIRECTLY to Dalinar in a vision?! AND REMEMBERING THE PREVIOUS INTERACTION?! Is this Tanavast? No he's the stormfather. Can it be Adonalsium? Or one of the spren of Roshar, such as the Wind or Stone? Surely Nohadon didn't become a cognitive shadow, doesn't seem his style. Why is he in the visions?!! Ah!
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