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@moash
✨ i am mostly unchained ✨
alan, any pronouns, no minors please
main: @etiennelux
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currently reading: oathbringer
my best friend kaladin who loves imagine dragons and is trying to get through med school without killing himself
first dance 🧡💙
i know "to renarin he sent pride" means dalinar told renarin im proud of you immediately before exploding and dying but its funnier to imagine him beaming 2015 era love is love facebook graphics into renarin's psyche
❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹
One more of these to get through my content draught… I always kind of liked the idea that Shallan would wear Veil's coat more often once she started to get a better hold of her personas.
It’s ok Moash he didn’t really think that was the reason
comments on one of my posts that i never replied to that i just randomly saw but they’re so old that i don’t want to respond to the posters directly
1)
he literally kills elhokar in the middle of a battle in which they are enemy combatants so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the teft one is slightly more arguable, but still counts, but the elhokar one is indisputable, and kaladin didn’t kill roshone bc they were 1) not fighting 2) in his house 3) on the same side, what like he didn’t even have the chance to kill him that he passed over, it was just a wholly different situation, i think you probably meant to mention him fighting amaram at the end, but the only reason he didn’t kill him is because he got his ass handed to him. sucks to suck, moash is built different.
2)
it’s not enough, try harder to please me
3)
speak for yourself, i can’t stand elhokar
do you have any hope for moash being portrayed well or at least not worse than he was in the books in the tv show?
yes and no.
i think if you’re retelling wok/wor, something that was really weak and could easily be done differently is showing moash and kaladin’s close bond and friendship on screen to make the confrontation later more emotionally impactful. and this is one area that i think really set the stage for “fuck moash” sentiment, because when the audience doesn’t care about the character leading into the split, they’re more willing to say “hey fuck that random guy” right? tv as a medium also easier to do this because its visual, you basically have to have moash on screen more or people will be like “wait who is that” when he suddenly becomes more relevant. its harder to get away with just Saying he’s kaladin’s best friend.
the one thing that holds me back from having too much hope is that sanderson has unprecedented creative control over the shows, so i’m not confident that the things he did wrong the first time around won’t just be reinforced. ultimately i think it will always come down to how sanderson feels about and therefore portrays moash as a character, and i think as much as he has tried to make moash nuanced, sanderson hates him. and that’s just unavoidable and shines through in all his writing.
however, to end on a hopeful note, although sanderson has creative control, he will be working with people who are outside his usual bubble. i think the books over the last few years have gotten worse bc sanderson is surrounded by his own fans and (unintentionally) has created an echo chamber for himself. perhaps working with people who are more willing to challenge him will lead him to more interesting creative decisions!
what would have happened if graves hadn’t made moash leave? moash wouldn’t have left on his own imo. would kaladin have killed moash? does kaladin’s honor forbid him from allowing elhokar to die but permit him to kill moash? no. we know from the later books that kaladin is unable to kill moash bc he sees him as someone he’s sworn to protect. so legitimately what would have happened.
i love seeing usernames i recognize in wobs. that’s a beloved mutual. and that’s someone i have blocked. and that’s someone i have blocked. and that’s someone who blocked me. and that’s someone i have blocked.
genuinely im not trying to be a bitch, but i don't understand why people are like "actually moash could have made a better choice here when he was a slave but didn't and that's why he's irredeemably evil now" like i don't get it i don't get it, like can we please please just admit he didn't have options!! he didn't! he doesn't! "oh he could have chosen not to kill that guy and then he'd still be a slave, gotcha" like that's not a choice. that's not a choice. what are you talking about.
y’all test me everyday but i remain strong in my belief that no one is actually that stupid, so the question is. to knowingly comment with moash hate on a post that was made to encourage people to make fun of moash haters who comment on their posts. are you getting off on it? like do you just want me to call you stupid? i will, but i’d like you to pay me or something idk
all this worry over moash’s fate. i never considered he just like. wouldn’t really be in this book.
a post draft that’s JUST this gif, hilarious.
i just think committing genocide is worse than telling your friend to kill himself but maybe i’m a freak
Now that the first half of stormlight is concluded. Can any of you honestly say you're satisfied with how the class system and its dismantlment were handled?
I remember when I said that the moment Kaladin stopped being treated like a darkeyes, he stopped caring about darkeyes. We just stopped hearing about them for the rest of the series despite class struggle and systemic oppression being a major plot point that never got resolved.
Everyones argument for my take was that the systemic oppression WAS resolved and that the social classes were being dismantled.
I remember reading that and being like? Were they? Was the overarching conflict of the last two books just resolved off-screen with barely any mention?
Was class dismantlment really enacted by the will of a monarchy? When has that ever happened in history, and what are the moral implications of that?
Why couldn't there be any question of power spoken from the lower class without being shamed for it? Why was kaladin the one who had to work on his prejudice against lighteyes and not the other way around? Why was Moash written that way?
How can we even be certain that darkeyes and lighteyes ARE equal citizens? How many povs or conversations have we had with an actual darkeye in the last 3 books where they talk about their current rights and social status, how it's changed, and how their lives have improved?
The only example I can think of is the guard that died for Navani in book 4.
How absolutely certain are you that the only reason that kaladin doesn't think of darkeyes anymore is because there are no longer any darkeye problems?
Notice how im asking a whole lot of questions with no answers. Again, are you satisfied with how class was handled in Stormlight Archive?
#short answer: it wasn't #imo it would've been better if class relations got *worse* as they're fighting an existential war #human slavery expands to replace the Singer losses. the Alethi become more autocratic #power is centralized in the Alethi monarch away from the highprinces #give us some fucking tension between Kaladin and Dalinar/Adolin/Shallan #break apart the relationship between the Alethi government and the Radiant Orders #something anything #but no Sanderson wants his characters to be uncomplicated good guys and warps the entire world into making it true #to the detriment of the whole (tags via @irrationalplanets)
good point!! this is something i was trying to pin down this morning that i didn’t quite work out by the time i had to go to work, but it’s not that i think sanderson needs to have had a glorious class revolution to make stormlight great, and although i think the ultimate message is important, there’s no one way i wish things had gone, i just wish they’d gone somewhere. they could have gotten worse!!
but sanderson included the entire caste system basically just for kaladin’s backstory, and the second it was no longer relevant (kaladin learned to not be reverse racist) he stopped including it.
he could have continued to use the the caste system as a wrinkle in the plot, for things to get worse, to cause tension between main characters, to give additional complications to the war effort, but he didn’t. he hand waved that radiant orders and jasnah solved it off screen, because it wasn’t important to kaladin’s journey specifically anymore, and he only ever included it for him.
and personally i don’t think white authors should include slavery and racism solely as something interesting and cool for their main character’s tragic backstory, if they aren’t committed to treating the topics with the respect and gravity they deserve
Now that the first half of stormlight is concluded. Can any of you honestly say you're satisfied with how the class system and its dismantlment were handled?
I remember when I said that the moment Kaladin stopped being treated like a darkeyes, he stopped caring about darkeyes. We just stopped hearing about them for the rest of the series despite class struggle and systemic oppression being a major plot point that never got resolved.
Everyones argument for my take was that the systemic oppression WAS resolved and that the social classes were being dismantled.
I remember reading that and being like? Were they? Was the overarching conflict of the last two books just resolved off-screen with barely any mention?
Was class dismantlment really enacted by the will of a monarchy? When has that ever happened in history, and what are the moral implications of that?
Why couldn't there be any question of power spoken from the lower class without being shamed for it? Why was kaladin the one who had to work on his prejudice against lighteyes and not the other way around? Why was Moash written that way?
How can we even be certain that darkeyes and lighteyes ARE equal citizens? How many povs or conversations have we had with an actual darkeye in the last 3 books where they talk about their current rights and social status, how it's changed, and how their lives have improved?
The only example I can think of is the guard that died for Navani in book 4.
How absolutely certain are you that the only reason that kaladin doesn't think of darkeyes anymore is because there are no longer any darkeye problems?
Notice how im asking a whole lot of questions with no answers. Again, are you satisfied with how class was handled in Stormlight Archive?