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2020's Thor Vol.6 #1 cover by Olivier Coipel and Laura Martin.

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Thor #22

[kingoftieland]

Sadly, if hit hard enough with any godlike energy, the virtually indestructible shield becomes quite destructible. 🔱

[thorkizilla]

Firstly, I'm glad to read you again. We come and we go, such like inspiration and ideas - being stuck inside just one universe is never enough. Secondly, there's one (of many) detail in Ragnarok that baffled me. Hela draws her power from Asgard. Asgard is not a place, it's people. They're diminished and in exile now, but assuming they'll rebuild, it seems to be a very cruel sort of trap - die out, or release the monster again. I wonder what your thoughts on that are.

I’ve been thinking a lot about this, because Hela’s actions and Odin’s words seem to confirm that it’s Asgard-the-place that gives her her power, she’ll be limitless once she gets there, she’s ready to kill every single Asgardian person to get the Bifrost sword, she’ll risk her life to fight Surtur at full strength rather than go with the Asgardian people.Odin says, “Asgard is not a place, never was.  This place could be Asgard.  Asgard is where our people stand.”  It’s Thor and Heimdall who later say, “Asgard is not a place, it’s a people.”  Are they correct?  Or are they slightly misinterpreting what Odin said?We all know the real answer is, “The writers are just throwing up what makes for a good theme, rather than good worldbuilding.” but it still kind of itches at me.POSSIBLY, while I don’t think they’ve mentioned it in the movies themselves, what we’re dealing with is the Odinforce.  The Thor junior novelization (of the first movie) says:

Alas, Odin had no more time left to teach. He was growing weaker by the day. Soon, he would need to enter the Odinsleep, during which he would be unable to rule, his body in a state of suspended animation while he used the powerful Odinforce to rejuvenate.

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When he arrived at the Vault, his assumptions were proven true. He found Thor, with Sif and the Warriors Three, staring at the remains of a great battle. Two Asgardian sentries lay on the floor, frozen solid. Towering above them stood the Destroyer, Odin’s deadliest weapon. It was a suit of armor, three times the size of a man, animated by the mystical Odinforce.  When a threat to Odin or Asgard was felt, the Destroyer would awaken, and the Odinforce would burn bright, laying waste to anyone or anything that got in its way.

and it’s mentioned two more times that the flames from the Destroyer were from the Odinforce.  But this is the only place I’ve ever seen the Odinforce mentioned in relation to the movies.  (I flipped through the first Thor artbook for the Destroyer section and the Odin section and it’s not mentioned in either of those places.)The Odinsleep however is mentioned and so I’m tentatively willing to accept that the Odinforce might exist, but that still leaves us with the question of--is it a place or a people?  Odin’s words + Hela’s actions weigh towards it being a place, Thor had to destroy Asgard to save the people, because that was the source of Hela’s power.  Thor’s words + Heimdall’s words weigh towards it being a people.But Odin’s words are hard to parse, Hela might just have fixed Asgard in her mind as the symbol of what she felt she was owed, Thor and Heimdall  might have been comforting themselves that the people were worth more than the power.  And such narrative weight was put on “Asgard is not a place, it’s a people.” that it seems against the point to just dismiss it.There’s no real answer to this, we don’t know what the power source is, and without that, we can’t know if it’s a cruel trap or just the way things are or even if it’s nothing at all, it’s just a metaphor the movie wanted to use.  I’m vaguely hopeful the Ragnarok artbook might shed some light on this or at least give us a clue, but it’s still just under a week awaaaaaaaay.And I’m REAL curious to see what Thor’s powers will be like during Infinity War. I assume they’ll still have the eyepatch and no hammer, but will he still have the lightning?  Asgard was still standing while he had those powers, we didn’t see him use them after Asgard fell, so we can’t know.I’m just going to write it up as:  Many Asgardians have some innate power (especially in Odin’s line), but there’s also an Odinforce that puts them over the top if they have access to it, which was situated where Asgard was, at the nexus of the branches of Yggradsil.  That’s why they chose the spot in the first place, that’s why the Bifrost was there, that’s why fragments of those other (less stable) passageways were there (like the one that they used to get to Svartalfheim, those were smaller versions of the bigger branches), because there was a magic there that Odin tapped into.  But once he died, it would pass to the next person in his line--Hela, then Thor, as they draw their power from the same place.

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[shakachon]

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