also sorry second ask, separate idea that i couldn't fit into the first: i think you raised SUCH an interesting point by mentioning the whole 'aussie grit' thing and i think there's definitely an undeniable connection there -> so much of elite sport is about representing your country/the responsibility you feel as an athlete to perform to ‘serve them’. you want to fulfill that commitment, provide the glory, prove your loyalty and that sense of duty correlates to masculinity a lot as well. i could honestly go on abut the whole nation identity in relation to professional sport for ages but zooming back into mr webber, him basing such a big part of his identity/brand around it is kind of him validating that masculinity to himself through his national identity if that makes sense. despite leaving at such a young age, not having lived there for years, not being able to be their champion, just being a real solid aussie bloke is clearly something that is so important to him, so necessary to feel secure in himself. especially when you consider early danny ric at red bull, what his presence implicated for how much mark meant to australia and how mark fought for him to be considered, how he eventually retired from motorsport, the whole scottie mclaughlin story, his management firm that im pretty sure focuses on aussies/kiwis. it is SO important to him and he needs to be validated through it. and then oscar, who he sees and knows will be the next big thing for australia, might even get them the glory that he wasn’t good enough to bring, that he once again feels a responsibility to push forward so oscar and australia can realise that dream. he's trying to make up for his failure but he'll never be able to do it entirely himself, oscar has to. there’s bound to be a lot complicated feelings there. and then on oscars side, he’s talked about looking up to mark, not as a driver per se but strictly as an aussie in f1 and he also cares a lot about his aussiness in general, i think theres something interesting there from a less rpf more sports theory perspective on a larger scale than just oscarmark but yea idk if this anything. thank you for being so open though!
omg hahaha i actually hadn't read this ask when i responded to your first one! i didn't realize the discussion already went in the direction of national identity and masculinity. just for reference this is what i said about the aussie-ism of oscarmark in that response:
I think you’re spot-on with Mark seeing Oscar as a second change, a more enduring legacy. The importance of their Australianism is definitely at play here — which is why the Aussie Grit part is so critical. It’s not just that Webber aspires to a specific kind of, like, humble salt-of-the-earth rugged masculinity, it’s one completely intertwined with his national identity as an Australian man. Genuinely to understand Mark and Oscar’s public persona (and Daniel’s too), you have to understand the Anzac spirit. It’s not just that Mark is trying to bring forth through Oscar a champion who can live up to the (distinctly masculine) aspirations Mark failed to realize; it’s that Oscar will be an Australian champion living up to the masculine values that Australians are expected to embody when they represent their country on an international stage (things like stoicism, endurance, loyalty, and—well—grit). (Tbh I think any non-Aussie Oscar fan should have a working knowledge of Anzac masculinity lol. Some of the fanon interpretation of him seems kind of like… a bit ridiculous when you’re familiar with it.)
for the record national identity and masculinity (and how the two are COMPLETELY inextricable from one another, especially in a settler-state like Australia) were incredibly important aspects of my historical research (& time period that i studied). i could talk at length about these things, but that would be boring for you and not that related to psychoanalyzing millionaire athletes, so. just know that you've hit the nail on the head - aussie national identity is considered synonymous with anzac spirit, which is a specifically masculine set of values. these ideals are quite obviously what mark refers to when he says "aussie grit".










