Hey ya’ll, so I typed this post up many many months ago, over a year probably, right after the most recent “cancellation” situation with Brendon in Aug 2020, and am finally ready to share it. I was afraid to post it initially for fear of backlash, but I’m more mature and grown up now and don’t give a flying fuck what anyone has to say. This is a serious, dangerous situation and it needs to see the light of day. People need to know what happened with all of this, and WHY Panic! At the Disco is practically no longer a thing.
(MASSIVE trigger warning for abuse of minors, sexual abuse of minors, grooming, stalking & catfishing behavior, and mentions of blood & self-harm.)
Hey y’all. Been a minute.
Just wondering if we’re ever going to collectively discuss as a fanbase how Sarah Orzechowski is quite literally responsible for the current cancellation of Brendon Urie and his career.
(This might be a little all over the place but I really just want to get as much of the points and facts down as possible. From what I know first hand and what I’ve been told by extremely credible sources close to PATD, past and present.)
I know there isn’t much of a Panic! fanbase left... and that’s sad, but we really do need to talk about this and make sure it is known. So many times people tweeted about it but tweets get lost, thanks in part to Sarah’s group of fans she uses to turn drama around so it’s in her favor, or just to confuse fans by giving out false narratives.
I really think it’s beyond imperative we talk about Sarah Orzechowski. I will not be calling her by her married name as she has very clearly proven by her actions that her vows meant nothing.
1.) Did you know that Sarah is responsible for Chelsey, aka the PATD stalker still existing and continuing her sickening, abusive actions against fellow fans and former bandmates of Brendon’s?
Sarah went out of her way to befriend her husband’s stalker and extremely convincing catfish literally less than a month after Sarah was informed of what was going on.
Remember? How I informed Sarah via tweets and then email of the PAGES and pages of personal, private home addresses, phone numbers, social security numbers, etc from every single member of Brendon’s extended family that she could find online? I sure as fuck remember it, and the posts from back then when I found out and FREAKED out, along with other fans who came to me and got the story and posted about it in probably much clearer words than I had lol as I had been genuinely freaking the fuck out over what I’d been shown by this girl.. this girl who at the time had the most popular Panic! blog “ipanickedatthedisco” (which is a good term to use in your searches for the old posts I speak of) due to the fact that she regularly shared PRIVATE personal family photos of Brendon and sometimes Ryan, which we all now know she had hacked and stolen from the private facebook and instagram accounts of Brendon’s family members and friends. Her hacking of Brendon’s former best friend Shane Valdez’s Facebook is how she initially got in contact with Ryan Ross, fooling him into believing Shane was giving him Brendon’s real phone number, when of course it was hers. Technically it was actually an imessage email address named “beatboxB,” not a number.
Oh yeah, not sure if anyone remembers this but Chelsey was catfishing Ryan Ross as Brendon Urie. Making him believe for something like at least 9 months that he had been rekindling his friendship with Brendon and that they were EVEN going to work on new music together. When Ryan found out, the day after I alerted Sarah and then Shane Morris to Chelsey’s crimes, he famously posted cryptic, bloody photos of probable self-harm to his finger on instagram and scared the shit out of his fans and personal friends. All of this can be seen/read on the very well-documented Pathetic! At the Disco post dedicated to this. Trigger warning for blood and very clear emotional abuse/distress.
2.) Remember when I informed Sarah that there were multiple underage fans who had been catfished by Chelsey as Brendon on her infamous fake Facebook and Instagram accounts, who reported being asked by her for nude photos via text & messenger?
Underage, high-school fans. Who then sent those nude photos to this adult woman because they truly believed they were talking to Brendon Urie, and had been in a real romantic relationship with him that Chelsey had fostered in these literal children.
3.) Remember when Shane Morris had to come to the rescue because Fucking Sarah refused to do anything about Chelsey? I emailed her completely in a panic about everything and we talked in multiple replies and she did not want to take it seriously at all. I explained how Chelsey could be charged for internet crimes in regards to the soliciting of nude photos from minors, as I’d already talked to a lawyer friend about it. It was serious. But Sarah wanted to pretend like Chelsey was a non-threat, and specifically called her “just kind of annoying to us. Nothing serious.”
FUCKING. REALLY?? SO YOU’RE ALL THAT MATTERS, IS THAT RIGHT SARAH? THOSE FANS AND FRIENDS OF BRENDON’S WHO WERE ABUSED AND MISTREATED AND NOW HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT EXPERIENCE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES... DON’T MATTER ONE SINGULAR FUCK, DO THEY, GIRL? RYAN ROSS AND THE ABUSE HE SUFFERED AT HER HANDS MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. THE FACT THAT BRENDON’S OWN MOTHER AND SIBLINGS WERE CATFISHED BY CHELSEY DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER TO SARAH EITHER. lmao what the flying fuck y’all. I’m sorry for the caps but I’m just completely blown away, as I always have been. It’s like sitting on this MOUNTAIN of just jaw-dropping information I can’t seem to properly get out to people so it’s not JUST ME and my closest PATD fan friends (and those literal friends of Brendon I mentioned) who know about it.
Please understand and know that if you are a fan of Sarah in any way. She. Does. Not. Fucking. Care, about you or your wellbeing. She is happy to enable and encourage a very dangerous psychopath with Monomania, the condition Mark David Chapman has. You know, the super obsessed fan who murdered John Lennon? Brendon’s stalker has that condition. This is not a diagnosis I came up with or guessed at, it was told to me by multiple people much more involved with the band and this situation than I’ve ever been.
4.) Sarah did all of this while knowing just how horrible and dangerous Chelsey was and is. She very deliberately turned around, after the viral outrage and horror of her crimes and existence as a stalker/catfish coming out, after being warned by me and multiple others of how serious this situation was and Shane Morris HIMSELF (Shane is the former manager and a good friend of Ryan Ross) having to come in and take things into his own hands (and just lol ....my god, seriously Sarah?) on behalf of the harm Chelsey inflicted on Ryan, not Brendon, which was truly extreme and unbelievably fucking unforgivable... and yet Sarah straight up befriended Chelsey. Not just forgave her and told everyone ELSE to forgive her too. Despite ALL of that, she purposefully befriended this dangerous, catfishing stalker.
The horrific things Chelsey did to that man she claims to love (Ryan) should tell you all you need to know about how fucking dangerous she actually is to Brendon, who she claims to love more than anything or anyone in the world.
But literally... Brendon’s own wife did NOT CARE about the dangers and the potential harm this known stalker carries for her husband, and she cared even less about those fans and friends and former bandmate of her husband who were so seriously mentally abused and terrorised by Chelsey. You don’t just forget about something like that. That’s a lifelong wound that comes with massive embarrassment and shame for getting fooled so well by someone pretending to be your friend, or idol. That also creates LIFELONG TRUST ISSUES, amongst so much else.
5.) Part of Sarah befriending Chelsey meant attempting to force the ENTIRE fanbase to also forgive her, and make it go away. Let Chelsey just “be a fan” with the rest of us. (I feel like I’m taking CRAZY PILLS!! WHAT THE FUCK??)
Do you guys remember that? She literally posted to her instagram once (maybe even twice, in fairly quickly deleted posts) trying to get everyone to “leave Chelsey alone” because she had “simply made a mistake and since learned her lesson” (😭😭😭😭 Sarah you are literally so stupid it hurts... or maybe it was all intentional and calculated idk) and that we all “need to forgive her.” She then straight up followed the stalker’s ‘Brendon Urie Vines’ instagram account and recommended that everyone ELSE do the same. That is absolutely fucking insane.
Based on that we can assume Sarah is also responsible for Brendon watching the BUV vine compilation video from her youtube channel which saw Brendon praising “whoever made this” in a published video interview, feeding the monster inside her exactly what it wanted most.
So... why is it just ‘okay’ that Sarah did this? Why is it okay that people seemingly don’t care and therefore continue to worship or idolize her in some way?
This is what triggered my post, because I still see these young fan accounts posting all lovey dovey over Sarah sometimes, and it just makes my stomach twist. If they knew what she’s done, would they still feel that way?
She would never have the kind of adoration she does if not for being married to who she is, and it is very clear she thrives off the power that comes from being with a famous person who many many people want to be with and are jealous of her for. That is blatantly obvious and always has been, by the way she uses her power to abuse Brendon with fangirls she insists upon him interacting with, and the way she keeps a “special” little group of fans close to do her bidding in exchange for the abuses of power she acts out with them. Extremely preferential treatment like being invited as a VIP to multiple Panic! concerts where they get to meet and hug Sarah and hang out with her for the show, meeting the band along the way of course. (If you’ve been around as long as me then you probably know the girls I’m talking about... but I’m going to omit their names to avoid their vitriol.)
And we know very well just how hard Sarah tried to marry another band guy first, becoming engaged to Jeremy of Paramore at only 18-19yo and sleeping around with multiple other band guys after her engagement broke off before setting her sights on Brendon.. who was a perfect, gullible target at that time. Young and single and prime for missing the red flags that came with Sarah thanks to having Zack around constantly for years already. And I think we all understand the Zack problem and all the red flags Brendon missed with him by now, so I won’t go into that.
But Sarah fucking Orzechowski, knowing every bit of what I’ve just typed here, happily befriended and brought that stalker into her inner circle, close to the one person she is most crazy over. Into Sarah’s infamous little “VIP fan” groupchat, that we all found out about in 2018. Along with the ones you would absolutely expect, mentioned vaguely above, because sadly there’s just no way specific fans get as close and as much privilege from the band & Zack as they do without something shady going on. You know, the ones who somehow get photos nobody has seen before and share them before the people who SHOULD be posting them do. The ones who go on the attack on Sarah’s behalf whenever someone is rightfully criticizing her. They’re pretty easy to spot... at least, in the days before Brendon/PATD’s cancellation. Things are very different now.
I know it well because Sarah really tried to make me one of those girls in the beginning. Dunno if anyone remembers the Paul Walker tweets, the insanely callous, shitty things she tweeted the day he died. Well she came to me in an email just as things were blowing up online and everyone was getting (again, rightfully) pissed off at Sarah. She came complaining and crying to me and making it VERY obvious she wanted me to speak out in her defense, so I DID. 🤦🏼♀️ ugh.
It really seems as if she’s a master manipulator who has ulterior motives when it comes to Brendon. She can absolutely be held responsible for the current downturn (and possibly the end of?) his career, as that downturn comes as a direct result of the sexual abuse allegations made against him, from fans who were indeed sexually harassed/abused via text using hacked personal photos of Brendon (including, according to the victims, his own nudes) and apparently either clips of his actual voice, or by mimicking his voice herself to further “prove” herself as Brendon, but this was all done by Chelsey rather than Brendon... and unfortunately, the vast majority of the public does not know anything about Brendon Urie’s infamous stalker/catfish so the vast majority of the public believes those allegations against him.
5.) Without Sarah’s approval, encouragement, and blessing to continue, as she had refused to punish Chelsey in any way shape or form for what she’d done, instead rewarding her with exactly what she wanted.... had Sarah not done that, Chelsey would NOT have come right back and thrived with her “Brendon Urie Vines” youtube and instagram accounts, which she made money off of by the way, and she would not have gone immediately back to catfishing people online as Brendon. Honestly I’m sure she just never stopped, as opposed to “going back” to doing it.
Chelsey is so intense and scary that she apparently figured out when Brendon was changing his cell number in recent years - possibly thanks to Sarah in some way, as it’s not likely she would have known otherwise.. although she has been proven capable of WAY more than anyone ever thought - and she somehow MANAGED TO ACQUIRE BRENDON’S OLD NUMBER IMMEDIATELY UPON HIM CHANGING IT. 🤦🏼♀️ Yeah, you read that right. I didn’t even know that piece of info until a personal friend of his (who was also catfished and someone you all know) let me in on it last fall. That’s just.. wow. That means that ANYONE who didn’t know he had changed his number, or anyone who mistakenly texted his old number, would be met with a response “from Brendon” aka her, and would then continue to believe this was him they were talking to. That’s how she was able to fool so many family members and old friends, as well as literal industry people and Ryan Ross.
You guys... the levels to this are so endless and so fucking terrifying. I feel like nobody ever hears everything, the whole story. I post about bits and pieces when I’m informed of new details that I’m just FREAKED THE FUCK OUT BY... but it’s on twitter or instagram where people don’t really see it.
Anyway...
If there’s anyone still around who helped me out with her the first time, or any of the consecutive times, like the amazing fan(s) who made that Ryan Ross blog, detailing all of her abuses of him.. or one of the other blogs who really came out in support and helped get the word out about her, PLEASE hit me up and reblog this. Or feel free to make your own posts, of course. I’m actually never on tumblr anymore and don’t plan for that to change so you’d have to hmu on twitter or ig. I’m not “back” nor do I plan to continue this or answer Q’s or replies to it, I’ve had to fucking be at the center of this for too long already and I just don’t need that in my severe chronic illness life... I’m just leaving this here because there needs to be a place where people can read about this in one place, one post, instead of multiple threads of tweets that are near impossible to find.
This thing with Sarah should not just be swept under the rug, considering the number of lives negatively affected by her actions. Just because Sarah says her life wasn’t negatively affected, even though that is DEFINITELY not the case anymore, doesn’t fucking mean harm was not caused. Jesus Christ. And you fucking KNEW about that harm! I TOLD YOU. You just didn’t fucking care! There is NO EXCUSE you can ever claim and what you’ve done is absolutely unforgivable, you cruel witch.
Anyway. I’m tired of randomly seeing posts from fans who clearly love Brendon and care about his wellbeing but are fawning over how cute or how great Sarah is, clearly utterly unaware of the true acts of harm and willful endangerment (that’s the term for it) she has very eagerly and on her own recognisance committed against her husband and his fans, family, and friends.
People absolutely deserve to know about these egregious and borderline criminal abuses of power committed by Sarah “Urie.”
Disclaimer: I don’t necessarily consider myself a Panic! fan anymore and have extraordinarily conflicting feelings when it comes to Brendon at this point in time. This post is about Sarah’s abuses in regards to fans and the man she spoke vows to never harm and only protect, and should not be taken as a defense of Brendon. I will absolutely defend Brendon on the SA allegations that I know without any shadow of doubt came from Chelsey, because there is factual evidence I can cite on the validity of that. But as for the rest of why he was “cancelled,” I could not and would never defend any of the harmful, ignorant words he’s said in the past on stage and in interviews. What I will say is that I do believe Brendon’s shitty vocabulary in those times is a strong reflection of Zack Hall’s vocabulary and personality at all times, and because Brendon was unfortunately placed in a false protective relationship with Zack at a young age, before he had finished growing up, his adulthood was formed under the tutelage of a very toxic masculine, edgey/shady big brother type, who we have all observed Brendon loves to impress or make proud. So unfortunately, at least from my psychological understanding and analytical point of view, this all kinda goes back to Zack. Even the Sarah thing, like I said, could be a result of Zack dulling Brendon’s red flag sensors.
But anyway. I could be wrong, maybe Brendon’s just a dick. But I will wait to have that proven to me before I completely give up hope. Brendon is a good person in my personal experience, from the 4 times I’ve met him and the 13 times I’ve seen him on stage. He has been nothing but warm, kind and genuinely caring to me on a personal level as well as with every friend I have who’s ever met him, so it will take some convincing with some true *intention to harm* before I condemn him. Personally. ✌️
And I also just want to add that I’m not at ALL involved in the PATD fanbase anymore, nor do I really ever get on tumblr anymore except to look for Gallavich gifs lol. The ONLY reason I care enough to make this post is because I have seen firsthand how many people have been hurt by Chelsey and by extension of Sarah’s encouragement of her. There is NO WAY she would have been allowed/able to continue her reign of terror on fans and personal friends of Brendon Urie to the extent of Brendon HIMSELF getting cancelled because of things she did, if not for the VERY public support of his stalker from his own wife Sarah. Period.
Sarah, I hope you see this post. I hope it scares you to know that we’ve got your number and we see right through your creepy fake smile and “kaleidoscope eyes.” Trickster eyes. I hope you seek out intensive psychotherapy for this incredibly huge character flaw and even more importantly that BRENDON does so, and that he finally gets some perspective on you and how much harm you have caused people, including him and the fans, friends and family he loves so much.
Being a humanitarian and an activist means not putting up with ANYONE’S abuses of power. It doesn’t matter who you think you are. You’re not off the hook.
