It's strange how resistant most Louies are to the idea of him having struggles with alcohol. No matter how often he's seen drinking vodka, what he does or what he looks like, they'll always say "Louis just likes to have fun" and then go ahead and gift him personalised shot glasses or ask to do a vodka shot with him. Maybe they're just really young I don't know.
Putting all the asks about pen-gate together and then i'm putting this discussion to bed.
Oh man, I really don’t love that people are presuming he’s at a rehab facility based on a pen. And I seriously doubt he’s currently there IF it was about him anyway. I have ended up with so many pens in my life with no idea how I got them them it would never cross my mind to check the details of some pen I was using before letting someone see I was using it. I know I’m not a public figure but still.
So I think that person was being jokey about how he would handle it without Oli and I have three things to say. First, I personally do not think Louis has a problem with drugs or alcohol and if he does it would surprise me if he went straight to an inpatient facility. Do you know anyone who has been in rehab facilities for drugs or alcohol? I do. I myself have been in one for mental health briefly which has similar rules re: contacting people outside of the facility at first. They keep you from talking to people because they want you to focus on your recovery it’s not a punishment. Also, you’re busy! They want to give you new structure and not to use the same things and people you’ve been relying on because they’ve clearly not been working since you’ve checked into a facility for help! This is a good thing. I think it’s in really poor taste to make a joke about him and Oli being so attached when you’re talking about the idea of him being in a rehabilitation facility. Also? They take your phone. If he was there he isn’t currently a patient.
Which also, have you read about these Swiss treatment centers? I have (though admittedly not THIS one). It’s a whole industry, and they focus on holistic treatments and the ph of your water and diet and exercise and purity and you swim in lakes and stuff. It can be as much of a “life detox/reset” as it can be for substances. I do not struggle with substances thank god and I would go to one of these for the way they reset your whole life not because of substance rehabilitation. I have a dear friend from uni whose brother delayed college and went to a program like this. She made a joke about him being in rehab once (she’s his sister she was allowed) and I asked her what he was there for. She said “life rehab.” It was Hawaii and it taught him structure and self discipline and self reliance and indépendance and a slew of other things. He was 18, I know it’s different from Louis. But I’m saying there isn’t always substance abuse. Could be a bougie retreat.
And finally, Louis is wealthy. He’s rich, rich and still has a huge active income. I know he has wealth managers and his brokers have his money making money for itself. It’s incredibly unlikely that Louis will ever struggle financially for the rest of his life. $80k a week to him is not the same as $80k a week to me. A whole month there, $320k? Louis makes that very quickly it’s not indicative of the severity of a problem. We know he’s had people who have struggled with substance abuse in his life, could he not have financially sponsored them so they could go to one of them? Or known people who could afford it themselves? They usually do allow some sort of visiting after a period of time. Makes way more sense to me that he visited someone there. Who…doesn’t it sound more likely that maybe this is an option that Liam tried out? Liam could afford it and we know he went to various rehabilitation centers. Couldn’t Louis have visited him there? I think that’s much more likely.
Ok FINALLY FINALLY I don’t think we as fans should be speculating about this! Including me! Everything in this message is none of my business! The only thing we as fans can or should do IF, and it’s a big if, if Louis ever reveals that he has been struggling with substances, is offer him compassion and empathy. This message is making a joke about it, being dismissive at minimum. We just saw how the pressures of fame may have complicated something as hard as addiction for someone we cared about when we lost Liam. If there’s a lesson there, it’s to back off. It’s not our business. I’m not going to make assumptions about a person based on a makeshift capo. There are so many reasons he could have that fucking pen that speculation is a waste of time. It serves no one. I really don’t want this conversation to begin again about Louis it’s so unfair.
I think this next as belongs to the one above:
Also I don’t like “only the best for LT!” Why shouldn’t someone pick the best?! I would like EVERYONE to have the best rehab facilities! We are comparing them to shitty ones which are…shitty! There’s no benefit in making someone seeking intervention for their substance misuse suffer. It’s not a punishment. So if we can make it more pleasant with better food and kind people and softer sheets and towels and whatever it is…I say good. Let people who need help have it in the best possible conditions.
Even if he were there, he would never be taking pictures and posting them.
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Fizzy posted pictures from an expensive celebrity rehab in Egypt. Everyone thought she was in a 5* hotel on vacation until articles came out about her being there.
When you are in rehab, you have to follow a schedule, in addition to the rules (no cell phones, social media, etc.). Even if he were there, he would never be taking pictures and posting them.
Fizzy posted on IG several times from her rehab in Egypt and that looked just like a nice hotel too. Appearances are deceptive in these high end places.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpWptVMn-iL/?igsh=MXFubWF1cmJqMWtscw==
Hi, anons!
First anon; Louis having addiction problems or needing some sort of rehab/therapy is a sore subject because it means that our favourite isn't managing and is hurting. I also think that subject is currently inconclusive. At least i treat it as such. I question if he has got an issue or if it's just his shitty image making it seem so. If it becomes more apparent that he's got an issue that he's seeking help for, i think admitting that as a fan will take time. Just look at everyone denying that Liam had an addiction problem and were not sober when he passed away.
Second anon; Rehab/treatment facilities are different. Just because you had one experience doesn’t mean it's like that everywhere and for others. People seek help for very different reasons, and they get different treatments for their individual needs.
We are talking about this because some fans, including myself, has been worried about Louis coping mechanisms for a while now. If he's sought help for it, it's a huge relief. If he hasn't fans will still be worried. I worried for Liam for a long time and i could clearly see he was struggling. We as fan can't do nothing, it's their life, but for some fans it helps to talk about it, to get their feelings validated. Sweeping things under the carpet and ignoring red flags isn't going to help. But it's also a balancing act not to speculate too much and get too invasive. But it was Louis who posted the pic of the pen, he knows how this fandom will dig and search for clues, and if he wanted to correct fandom behaviour, he would.
Third and fourth anon; Yes, the anon who says every rehab is no phone, no outside contact and no pictures is simply wrong. The article about George Michael stated that he was living in a luxury villa, was seen out and about with his boyfriend and was dining at restaurants drinking alcohol.
All this just because of a simple pen...
