#phaeacians

[laiapolypharmakos]

How poetic it seems to me that the first person Odysseus addresses in the palace of the Phaeacians is Arete, and also the last person he addresses when he leaves. Arete is the palace, the queen is the heart of the palace.

[syls-chaos]

The Odyssey: Book vs Musical

So I read the Odyssey for class this semester and I'm a huge fan of Epic the Musical so allow me to humorously compare the two. Musical Zeus: You want to release Odysseus? HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE MY AUTHORITY? Book Zeus: Eh, Poseidon isn't here to complain. Go ahead, my bestest most specialist daughter, my favorite child. Musical Odysseus: My wife is more beautiful than any goddess I have ever seen and I will never let a single unfaithful thought cross my mind. Book Odysseus: Well now that I've had two children with Circe, I should probably get going, wouldn't want to overstay my welcome. Book Phaeacians: We are a kind people who help all that wash up on our shores! We will escort you home with much treasure, stranger-who-is-definitely-not-Odysseus! Musical Phaeacians: Musical Telemachus: Athena??? Oh my gosh you're talking to me? This is so cool! Book Telemachus: Yeah I started traveling with the son of my father's guest-friend and then like, a week in he turned into an owl and turns out he was a fucking goddess the whole time? Musical Penelope: These bitch-ass suitors are ruining my life. God I hope my husband gets home soon. I'm about to start having to take this shit into my own hands. Book Penelope: I have been crying for ten straight years. Musical Poseidon: Odysseus slipped past me! I must go threaten his life directly and block his path as he is moments from home. Book Poseidon: Those damn Phaeacians got Odysseus past me. That's like the fourth time! I'm going to surround their island with mountains. Take that, you seafaring bastards. Book Phaecians: Musical Athena: Damn, I've been ignoring Odysseus for like, ten years? I should check up on that. Book Athena: Oh, oops, I've been ignoring Odysseus for like, ten years? I should check up on that. (please add your own suggestions)

[jabutipiranga]

Odyssey adaptation in which we see his travels through the perspective of the Phaeacians so it's just Odysseus talking for three hours and making really good impressions of everybody

[jacobpking]

The Host of heroes🌊

[lyculuscaelus]

re: the Phaeacians. In the Odyssey, they're also the framing device that allows Odysseus to tell us the story of, well, the Odyssey. They're his audience. So in a way, the listeners of Epic are the Phaeacians.

Oooh YES that is a wonderful thought!

Another idea to add to this: the Phaeacians also provided Odysseus with a ship home—one of the key elements to the completion of his journey. Meanwhile, the support of the all of us is what boosts Epic to its completion, allowing the sagas to release one by one smoothly, which is the unfolding of Odysseus’s journey home. So in that sense, it’s also valid to say that we are the Phaeacians who made it possible for Epic!Odysseus to go home!

[laiapolypharmakos]

I must say how perfect I think the actress playing Arete in L'Odissea 1968 is. Honestly, that's exactly how I imagined Arete, and I couldn't change my mind even in a thousand years.

Marina Berti:

My hc are Arete, with black hair and light eyes. Also a hc is that before Helena was born (Arete is already queen of the Argonauts), she was the most beautiful woman in the world, but as the Phaeacians are a mythical society isolated from the known world, she is not widely recognised (this is just a hc, there is no mythological source for this).

In addition to all this, I have another hc where I locate the island of Scheria. In my hc, it is not Corfu but the Balearic Islands, even though it does not fit at all with what the Argonautica says, which is that it is in the Adriatic Sea, located on what is now the island of Corfu.

And the truth is that I was already obsessed with the Phaeacians when I was fully immersed in the Odyssey, but now with the Argonauts, even more so LOLOLOL.

Alcinoo, you're a lucky man, not only is your wife smarter than hunger, the best queen a kingdom could have, but she is also the most beautiful woman in the world and she loves and idolises you. LUCKY YOU!

[laiapolypharmakos]

"Scheria isn't as important as not being able to stop thinking about it."

BRUH, SHUT UP BECAUSE, AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS, IT'S THE WEDDING PLACE OF JASON AND MEDEA, SO DON'T TELL ME IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

And yeah, one could argue that this place should not have been the wedding venue, that neither Jason nor Medea wanted to get married there, but let's face it, getting married on the island of Corfu in a sacred cave decorated by nymphs, in a golden bed, with golden light and background music by ORPHEUS is not a bad alternative.

DUDE I'M SIGNING UP AND I'M JUMPING IN HEAD FIRST WITHOUT CHECKING IF THERE'S WATER IN THE POOL

[laiapolypharmakos]

The thing about Nausicaa is not only: “you must wash the clothes” is also: “your mum gave birth to you heedless” and the truth is that Athena hit the nail on the head because if my bestie told me that I’m heedless I would believe her 100% and also if she is coming to wash with me.

“Nausicaa, penca, lava la puta ropa, no sé cómo te lo tengo que decir: ¿Quieres ir sucia el día de tu boda? ¿Quieres que tu familia vaya sucia? ¡Lo que quieres es que todo el mundo vea como de sucia es la familia del rey! ¡Vengaaaa a lavar coño!”

Od. VI. 24-43:

Likening herself to her, the flashing-eyed Athena spoke and said: “Nausicaa, how comes it that thy mother bore thee so heedless? Thy bright raiment is lying uncared for; yet thy marriage is near at hand, when thou must needs thyself be clad in fair garments, and give other such to those who escort thee. It is from things like these, thou knowest, that good report goeth up among men, and the father and honored mother rejoice. Nay, come, let us go to wash them at break of day, for I will follow with thee to aid thee, that thou mayest with speed make thee ready; for thou shalt not long remain a maiden. Even now thou hast suitors in the land, the noblest of all the Phaeacians, from whom is thine own lineage. Nay, come, bestir thy noble father early this morning that he make ready mules and a wagon for thee, to bear the girdles and robes and bright coverlets. And for thyself, too, it is far more seemly to go thus than on foot, for the washing tanks are far from the city.”

I think Nausicaa is the first protrayal of procrastination in literature.